Author Topic: All hat, no cattle. (Read 1139 times)

teamnelson · « **on:** November 17, 2009, 03:16:05 PM »

Lots of folks here accuse our President of being unfit for the job for many reasons to include that he has never given of himself to it, only taken. He's stood on the lines casting dispersions, but never got in the game so to speak.

So I put it to you ... is it enough to to talk about the issues? Eloquently, intelligently, rationally, researching all the facts and angles? Is that contributing? Is it enough? Or should more be expected? Required? If Obama had served in the military, as an LEO, firefighter or other public servant would he get a different response? Do we want thinkers and talkers or doers as well?

Me personally, I've always had more respect for those who took action on their convictions, even when I think they're wrong, than those who talk alot but seldom act, no matter how informed or eloquent they seem.

Swampman · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2009, 03:20:05 PM »

Why did we hire someone whose never had a job?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2009, 03:21:52 PM »

I'm not even sure he is up to even wearing the hat.

Dee · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2009, 03:32:36 PM »

TN, I never asked my men to do anything that I wasn't willing to do, and had done. If it was a high risk entry we were called to make, and I knew it could get really simple in a hurry, I picked up my gas operated shotgun and told the guys, I was first thru the door. They argued over who got to be second, and if I was the lest bit slow on the entry, I was second. Same way when we were going into the Red River bottoms huntin a dope patch.
When we planned an entry, or an insertion, I listened to my men. It was their rears too. Life was about to get real simple, and they might think of somethin I had missed. Our present government isn't listening to his men. He's ignoring us all. That's the difference

torpedoman · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2009, 03:40:30 PM »

45-70.gov · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2009, 03:49:17 PM »

before he got into politics he was a community organizer

he also sat on the joyce and wood foundations
and distributed other peoples money

now he is just doing the same job he is WELL experienced in

DISTRIBUTING OTHER PEOPLES MONEY

so don't go around saying he is not experienced in what he does

Oldshooter · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2009, 04:00:25 PM »

Thats been my point all along about this president. He has talked a lot about Government and I'm sure he has listened to his "teachers and handlers" . but he has never done anything of consequence. heck even when he was Senator hussein obama, he voted present and nay on anything that he voted on!

He says he wants to rewrite the constitution to say what the Government will do for you not what it cant do to you as it does now.

I think he's an America hater and wants to tear it down and remake it in the image he and his friends want. Never mind the fact that This country that he hates so much, enabled him to be where he is today!

I have said all along that "WE" should not listen to what he said to get elected but to what he had done before he was running! That may be a good rule to judge all candidates by!

Good Post 45-70.gov I had not thought of it that way!

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 17, 2009, 04:35:21 PM »

lol gotta hand it you he is qualified for what he is doing...lmao

mirage1988 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 17, 2009, 05:28:02 PM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on November 17, 2009, 04:00:25 PM

Thats been my point all along about this president. He has talked a lot about Government and I'm sure he has listened to his "teachers and handlers" . but he has never done anything of consequence. heck even when he was Senator hussein obama, he voted present and nay on anything that he voted on!

He says he wants to rewrite the constitution to say what the Government will do for you not what it cant do to you as it does now.

I think he's an America hater and wants to tear it down and remake it in the image he and his friends want. Never mind the fact that This country that he hates so much, enabled him to be where he is today!

I have said all along that "WE" should not listen to what he said to get elected but to what he had done before he was running! That may be a good rule to judge all candidates by!

Good Post 45-70.gov I had not thought of it that way!

Quote from: Dee on November 17, 2009, 03:32:36 PM

TN, I never asked my men to do anything that I wasn't willing to do, and had done. If it was a high risk entry we were called to make, and I knew it could get really simple in a hurry, I picked up my gas operated shotgun and told the guys, I was first thru the door. They argued over who got to be second, and if I was the lest bit slow on the entry, I was second. Same way when we were going into the Red River bottoms huntin a dope patch.
When we planned an entry, or an insertion, I listened to my men. It was their rears too. Life was about to get real simple, and they might think of somethin I had missed. Our present government isn't listening to his men. He's ignoring us all. That's the difference

Quote from: TeamNelson on November 17, 2009, 03:16:05 PM

Lots of folks here accuse our President of being unfit for the job for many reasons to include that he has never given of himself to it, only taken. He's stood on the lines casting dispersions, but never got in the game so to speak.

So I put it to you ... is it enough to to talk about the issues? Eloquently, intelligently, rationally, researching all the facts and angles? Is that contributing? Is it enough? Or should more be expected? Required? If Obama had served in the military, as an LEO, firefighter or other public servant would he get a different response? Do we want thinkers and talkers or doers as well?

Me personally, I've always had more respect for those who took action on their convictions, even when I think they're wrong, than those who talk alot but seldom act, no matter how informed or eloquent they seem.

I have worked in construction and manufacturing for twenty years and have heard every excuse and reason for a day off. I still am waiting for a rational reason for voting for "o" for president.The same blowhards that bitched about bush are bitching about bho, I just tell them that they aint seen nothin' yet.

teamnelson · « **Reply #9 on:** November 17, 2009, 07:05:29 PM »

Well gents, I gotta concur with mirage there that hating bho ain't much different than hating on bush, Clinton, bush, Reagan, Carter, ford, Johnson, Nixon ...

If all we ever do is sit around here bumping our gums were no better'n those we complain about.

williamlayton · « **Reply #10 on:** November 17, 2009, 11:20:14 PM »

TN
Talk is cheap.
BHO is a good talker, of that I am convinced.
I honestly don't know that he knows what he is talking about and that is what we need--someone who knows what he is talking about.
All Hat means that one can take on the air/the personna/the symbolance of business but has never walked thru the barnyard or cow pen to get to the other side without leaving a trail.
Blessings

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 17, 2009, 11:32:49 PM »

is it hate... he is direct opposition to almost everything i believe...not reason to hate...but he also is going about destroying the institutions and the things i was taught all my life to respect and honor. he supports those that wish to dishonor the recognition of the role god and religion played in this great nation.
his efforts i believe or weakning this nation and making it very weak...he supports the teaching in the schools of moraly wrong ideas. ideas that help destroy the family and marriage and other great things that kept us strong. he and those like him claim they are open...understanding.. and tolerant. it is just the opposite. to me its not hate so much as seeing and knowing what can hurt you and those you love. kinda like seeing a water moccasin and knowing that it will hurt you if you let it.

i see him as an enemy of all i believe i see him as one out to destroy this country and all the things that made it great....hate i do not think so but i know danger when i see it.

anweis · « **Reply #12 on:** November 18, 2009, 01:25:16 AM »

Quote from: Swampman on November 17, 2009, 03:20:05 PM

Why did we hire someone whose never had a job?

He had a job and he did it well.

In 2000 you hired a draft dodger who avoided Vietnam at all costs and believed him qualified to lead the country in two wars.

But, yes, i agree, Obama talks too much, or rather, puts too much emphasis on rhetoric.

alsaqr · « **Reply #13 on:** November 18, 2009, 01:53:20 AM »

Quote

In 2000 you hired a draft dodger who avoided Vietnam at all costs and believed him qualified to lead the country in two wars.

But, but, but, sir. The North Viet Nam air force never attacked TX so long as W. Bush was flying F-102 interceptors.

Dee · « **Reply #14 on:** November 18, 2009, 02:00:40 AM »

Quote from: alsaqr on November 18, 2009, 01:53:20 AM

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In 2000 you hired a draft dodger who avoided Vietnam at all costs and believed him qualified to lead the country in two wars.

But, but, but, sir. The North Viet Nam air force never attacked TX so long as W. Bush was flying F-102 interceptors.

YIKES! They didn't did they?

gypsyman · « **Reply #15 on:** November 18, 2009, 02:08:43 AM »

It's not just O, it's every one of them. Biden,Polosi,Schumer. None of them have ever felt the pain. None of them have ever had a real job. And, by that I mean a job that had to carry you and your family for $10/hr. for years. Or $15 or $20. They've never felt how it is to just get by from paycheck to paycheck. When you have millions and billions of other people's money to play with, they don't care. gypsyman

Dee · « **Reply #16 on:** November 18, 2009, 02:37:48 AM »

Well TM7, I pretty much agree with most of you last post.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #17 on:** November 18, 2009, 05:41:47 AM »

Quote from: mirage1988 on November 17, 2009, 05:28:02 PM

Quote from: Oldshooter on November 17, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Thats been my point all along about this president. He has talked a lot about Government and I'm sure he has listened to his "teachers and handlers" . but he has never done anything of consequence. heck even when he was Senator hussein obama, he voted present and nay on anything that he voted on!

He says he wants to rewrite the constitution to say what the Government will do for you not what it cant do to you as it does now.

I think he's an America hater and wants to tear it down and remake it in the image he and his friends want. Never mind the fact that This country that he hates so much, enabled him to be where he is today!

I have said all along that "WE" should not listen to what he said to get elected but to what he had done before he was running! That may be a good rule to judge all candidates by!

Good Post 45-70.gov I had not thought of it that way!

Quote from: Dee on November 17, 2009, 03:32:36 PM
TN, I never asked my men to do anything that I wasn't willing to do, and had done. If it was a high risk entry we were called to make, and I knew it could get really simple in a hurry, I picked up my gas operated shotgun and told the guys, I was first thru the door. They argued over who got to be second, and if I was the lest bit slow on the entry, I was second. Same way when we were going into the Red River bottoms huntin a dope patch.
When we planned an entry, or an insertion, I listened to my men. It was their rears too. Life was about to get real simple, and they might think of somethin I had missed. Our present government isn't listening to his men. He's ignoring us all. That's the difference
Quote from: TeamNelson on November 17, 2009, 03:16:05 PM
Lots of folks here accuse our President of being unfit for the job for many reasons to include that he has never given of himself to it, only taken. He's stood on the lines casting dispersions, but never got in the game so to speak.

So I put it to you ... is it enough to to talk about the issues? Eloquently, intelligently, rationally, researching all the facts and angles? Is that contributing? Is it enough? Or should more be expected? Required? If Obama had served in the military, as an LEO, firefighter or other public servant would he get a different response? Do we want thinkers and talkers or doers as well?

Me personally, I've always had more respect for those who took action on their convictions, even when I think they're wrong, than those who talk alot but seldom act, no matter how informed or eloquent they seem.
I have worked in construction and manufacturing for twenty years and have heard every excuse and reason for a day off. I still am waiting for a rational reason for voting for "o" for president.The same blowhards that bitched about bush are bitching about bho, I just tell them that they aint seen nothin' yet.

WEll this blowhard did not complain about bush, in fact I have backed him on several decisions on this site! Where he was at fault(IN MY OPINION) i did say that too!

rex6666 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 18, 2009, 07:01:56 AM »

Why would a man with NO military experence, decide he has to think about what the Generals are telling him. Unless of course he knows more about military
tactics than the military

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #19 on:** November 18, 2009, 07:09:40 AM »

Ya'll forget he is doing the job of CHANGE very well . It is not the job we want him to do . But 52% of Americans wanted that . So when his term is over it is very likely we will get someone that will be no better at being president than what we have . Keep in mind many felt no president could be worst at the job than Jimmy Carter , guess they were wrong !

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 18, 2009, 08:16:52 AM »

great speaker obama is not...he is good but immeadiatly you clearly understand and sense its not from the heart its from the telepromter. he tries so hard to speak with lofty visions with echos of JFK and the dreams of change in race relations like Martin Luther King and the pride of being an American and the genuine pride and love for this nation like Ronald Regan.

he fails in all attempts to make people believe he is the next one...see its their dream...their desire for a new beginning and change...not his. thats why his is failing because the more hew talks the less you believe in him people sense it in their guts that he is not sincere. i saw it right off many others are seeing it now.

he simply is an unknown that speaks well that never had a job where he earned his living by the sweat of his brow...and i know the priviledge JFK did not ever have money problems..yet his willingness to serve his country and sacrifice 9his brother) and so on made up for that. he inspired . MLK and the other hand was a great speaker that showed great courage to lead the way for a great change in Civil rights in this nation. it was a needed change and you felt he was right...at least i did.

regan brought tears to my eyes many times for i felt that man in his heart loved this nation and was willing to give his life if needed at any time for this nation. he lived through the dark days of world war II and it had a profound impact on him as it had on all that lived in those times.

he clearly brought most americans back to the feelings of love for the country.. pride in its history and he took no second seat to anyone and made no excuses for us. that was a great change from the carter days of weakness and then clinton that brought shame and disgrace to the office of the President. plus the continued show of weakness where any two bit thug that rode a camel was shaming us and killing us with no actions taken to stand up for this nation and its citizens. that all change when regan took office he showed the world that he was not going to sit idle while those things continued and the americans loved him for it. we were sick of the crap and he started taking actions around the globe to protect us and our interest. I am well aware of the misconduct of JFK and MLK but they were great leaders. able to inspire millions of people of all races.

obama is nothing.... nothing compared to any of them.

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 18, 2009, 08:49:47 AM »

obama will in the end do something .. if thats all we want from him .. hes gonna do something
similar to that of our old friend adolf before its over..at least he an his bunch gonna try..

theres no difference between far left an far right.. they all fooled by the powers behind the seen ,,
working for thier own agenda..absolute power..they could not care less about the populations wants..
that don t mean, they gonna get it though.. not until me an a lot more like me,, pushing up daiseys..
then it won t matter much to me.. i might even know gods full intentions an how hes gonna bring it pass,,
by that time slim

Oldshooter · « **Reply #22 on:** November 18, 2009, 09:07:35 AM »

Quote from: TeamNelson on November 17, 2009, 07:05:29 PM

Well gents, I gotta concur with mirage there that hating bho ain't much different than hating on bush, Clinton, bush, Reagan, Carter, ford, Johnson, Nixon ...

If all we ever do is sit around here bumping our gums were no better'n those we complain about.

I think we should compare apples to apples. The thread was titiled "All hat no cattle" which I took to mean cowboy in hat only no experience! We seem to going to "is he accomplishing any thing". I say hell yea he is. He's systematically taking the economy and the pride that made this nation great to the level of his daddy's third world nation. And yes he is all hat and no cattle.

teamnelson · « **Reply #23 on:** November 18, 2009, 10:26:06 AM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on November 18, 2009, 09:07:35 AM

Quote from: TeamNelson on November 17, 2009, 07:05:29 PM
Well gents, I gotta concur with mirage there that hating bho ain't much different than hating on bush, Clinton, bush, Reagan, Carter, ford, Johnson, Nixon ...

If all we ever do is sit around here bumping our gums were no better'n those we complain about.

I think we should compare apples to apples. The thread was titiled "All hat no cattle" which I took to mean cowboy in hat only no experience! We seem to going to "is he accomplishing any thing". I say hell yea he is. He's systematically taking the economy and the pride that made this nation great to the level of his daddy's third world nation. And yes he is all hat and no cattle.

Around where I come from, all hat no cattle is like a drugstore cowboy ... has the clothes, acts the part, but never has and currently does not have a ranch. I agree, BHO is accomplishing alot, and we don't like it. So are WE all hat and no cattle? There's some great ideas being thrown around here, what're we doing with those? Action verbs like "vote" and "join" and "give" weren't enough to keep him out of the white house; what makes us think they're enough for anything else? Shoot, obviously being a blowhard on GBO hasn't turned the country around yet ... but I'll keep trying

I may be preaching to myself here ... I keep watching the "other side" go to great lengths to accomplish their goals, while my side posts big ideas on forums, goes to meetings and hoards ammo. Wondering if we're missing the game.

williamlayton · « **Reply #24 on:** November 18, 2009, 12:16:13 PM »

The question about Boosh is answered completely in all that he did was to salute.

This should rankle some--not enough to cause a change---but/However--if statistics are correct only about 40% of those who speak here actually vote.
Lots of folks that can tell you what is wrong---few that really understand and fewer still who do anything other than talk.
In deferece to another thread here about where did America go wrong---America has no soul, it is not America that has turned sour--It is AMERICANS who are the sole reason for the slide and only Americans can turn it around. SOME Americans are doing things---the others are just sitting around bitching because THEY are not doing it their way.
Some will read this, say damn right---what's fer supper Honey?--can I have a beer.
sad Commentary.
Blessings

Yankee1 · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2009, 07:17:28 PM »

Hello All
Ya know we all may be wrong. My friends down in Texas were telling me that he actually was in the cattle transportation business.
They if I understand correctly stated he "Was one of the biggest bull shippers they had ever seen"
Yankee1

teamnelson · « **Reply #26 on:** November 18, 2009, 07:20:07 PM »

Dee · « **Reply #27 on:** November 19, 2009, 01:25:39 AM »

I'm from Texas, and my bunch sees him as a bull "shooter". Bull shipper? I don't think he knows how to load the truck.

briarpatch · « **Reply #28 on:** November 19, 2009, 04:24:19 AM »

Williamlayton, You have said it all. Could not be put any better. Thanks.

Dweezil · « **Reply #29 on:** November 19, 2009, 08:09:29 AM »

Quote from: rex6666 on November 18, 2009, 07:01:56 AM

Why would a man with NO military experence, decide he has to think about what the Generals are telling him. Unless of course he knows more about military
tactics than the military

...because as Commander in Chief, he is responsible for those he appoints and for their decisions.
When I was an officer, I had a few NCO's under my command who would say, "Don't worry about that sir. Thats NCO business." My response was always the same. "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining. If it's under my command, it's my business." Funny thing is. The subordinates I could really trust would never even try that approach in the first place.