Is H&R/NEF prices getting a little outta control?

[45-70.gov]

price  of  handi  going up
or  value of the dollar going down?

that  fact  that  it  takes  more dollars to  get a handi  now
tells  me it will take  even  more dollars in the future to get one

BUY  AS MANY AS YOU CAN  NOW

[trotterlg]

You have it wrong now.  The Handi is American made, the price of the dollar has nothing to do with it at all.  If they were made in Europe or priced in Euros then that would make sence.  The price increase is just that, they want more profit for what they are making.  Inflation is at near zero, so any American made product that increases in price is just pure greed.  Larry

[Squib]

maybe greed... maybe material costs, because that's still going up due to an increasingly overcrowded world driving up demand recession or not.  also the NEW frames probably bumped up the tooling cost some (when did they start using the investment castings again?)

maybe a bunch of union guys retired now to avoid having all their money from disappearing in stocks and such with the recession and all... and that's eating into profits hard and earlier than expected?  remington and marlin might be telling h and r to jump the prices up since the more expensive guns are harder for most consumers to purchase now.

[Swampman]

errrrrrr............ I don't believe any American firearms company has turned a profit in some time.  Remington saved Marlin & NEF.  Even Remington isn't in the black.

[PawPaw]

I haven't bought an NIB rifle in so long, I've forgotten how it's done.  My rifles are used, pawn-shop rifles.  This economy is hurting a lot of people, and one of the first things to go when a young daddy is trying to pay for kid's shoes and doctor bills is any extra firearm.  I remember when I was a young parent and the kids needed something.

If you've got a couple of extra dollars laying around, start hitting the pawn shops in late March and early April.  The rifles pawned after Thanksgiving will be coming out and there are normally some great deals at about that time.

As for myself, I wandered into my favorite pawn shop last week and I found what looked like a NIB Ultra Hunter, in .308.  Good blueing, pristine crown, this rifle looks like it's been used very little. It's got a cheap scope mounted, but that's easily fixed.  I bantered with the counter-guy a little, and walked out with the rifle for $200.00.

I'll play with it for a little while, work up some loads, then either put it in the rack as a grandson rifle, or gift it to one the nephews when he drools on it.

[45-70.gov]

You have it wrong now.  The Handi is American made, the price of the dollar has nothing to do with it at all.  If they were made in Europe or priced in Euros then that would make sence.  The price increase is just that, they want more profit for what they are making.  Inflation is at near zero, so any American made product that increases in price is just pure greed.  Larry

what  is the  differnce  between

GREED  AND  AMBITION

the  difference is  in  your  perspective  and
HOW  MUCH  ENVY  IT  SPAWNS

[Troyboy]

They are getting more expensive but so is everything else.

[Mitch in MI]

errrrrrr............ I don't believe any American firearms company has turned a profit in some time.  Remington saved Marlin & NEF.  Even Remington isn't in the black.

Sturm, Ruger seems to be doing OK:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RGR
$1.43 earnings per share in the past year.

Larry, zero inflation? Do you believe everything your government tells you?

[ironglow]

  The rise in price was to be expected, and they are not out of line. The single shot pheonomenon is something some folks just "don't get".
  Those who are into it however, fully understand. Tim, CW Longshot and many others here are fully into it and I can understand the the whole idea behind it...because although I am not EXCLUSIVELY single shot, I do like the challenge...and we are not alone. Dakota sells their SS rifles for $6000+, Ruger #1s aren't cheap either, and the European stalking rifles can fetch a very pretty penny.
  If one is "into" SS rifles, the NEFs can be considered a real bargain, especially when compared to the above mentioned rifles.
, and most of vthe "high priced spread" has nowhere the barrel options the NEFs offer and the NEFs will shoot with them..or better.  Is the NEF @ $225 or $250 too costly? I don't think so..sure, you can buy an entry level bolt @ $375-$400..but stay with me..

  Say you buy a NEF in .223 for........$225
  Then you buy a 12or 20 ga barrel...$44
                     Then a Hornet.........$90
                     Then a 30-06 .........$90
                     Then a 45/70..........$90   ...Totals $539..That gives you a 5 gun battery for almost anything you want to hunt on this continent.
  Sure, you may have to also get scopes, but that would be true with your bolt rifles too.

  Now, consider those cheaper bolts @ $375 X 5...equals $1875 to do the same job... Of course, unless you enjoy the challenge of single shot hunting, you may not appreciate this...

[Squib]

not to excuse people living in liberal states from just pushing terds out of the respective state congressional bodies BUT:

one reciever, less paperwork, less bs, just get multiple barrels.  it keeps the safe more spacious, trigger and stock stay consistent, breaks down for storage and travel, barrels clean out easier with little to no fluid run..

I like mine just fine.... my first ever breech action so I'm no expert but it seems to work just fine.  then again I researched everything about them on here for a month maybe before I bought one (you all got me half-trained so I was advantaged- thanks!) and knew the quirks before I shot (trigger follow through, forearm screw torque, forearm grip/firing technique, etcetera).