Author Topic: obama laying it all out on the line now (Read 807 times)

Redtail1949 · « **on:** November 30, 2009, 10:32:07 AM »

already hearing the weasel is trying to half ass do afganistan and health care have been revealed to cost us tax and every other way. debates starting about now. wonder just how much in payoffs he will give to get something through. what happens if he fails. whhat happens if his weasel mealy mouth speech does not swing support for whatever his plan is?

this is his waterloo...

Questor · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2009, 11:26:05 AM »

Maybe he's got a Waterloo and a Moscow in winter and his Iwo Jima, because he's caught on the horns of a tri-lemma (is that a word?): Horrendous defense policy and related foreign policy, terrible economic policy that is severely damaging our economy, and a catastrophic domestic policy based on spending money we will never have.

torpedoman · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2009, 11:44:41 AM »

The U.S. is now at a point were we have to BORROW money to pay the INTREST on what we owe. Even allen greenspan now says, system failure and a collapse of the dollar is in the works because it is not a substainable position. sorta like paying one c.c. with the other.

The Hermit · « **Reply #3 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:14:04 PM »

Torpedoman, bingo!! And guess where we will borrow more money from.... China

The Hermit

BBF · « **Reply #4 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:02:15 PM »

Quote from: The Hermit on November 30, 2009, 03:14:04 PM

Torpedoman, bingo!! And guess where we will borrow more money from.... China

The Hermit

and they may not be all that pleased with wacking Iran by anyone.

teamnelson · « **Reply #5 on:** December 01, 2009, 01:16:25 PM »

Good point.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #6 on:** December 02, 2009, 10:51:09 AM »

Economists are saying the economy will tank again next year (double dip). So be prepared. Pay off everything you can. Stockpile goods. The money is going to be worthless. If fed govn't tanks, no one will get health care, military can't get paid, no one will get welfare or food stamps. We will be in big trouble. People will actually have to start working to feed themselves or riot.

BBF · « **Reply #7 on:** December 02, 2009, 12:05:04 PM »

Print out new(different) money, exchange the new $ 25 or even 50 to one. Don't like it, to bad, you got 30 days to turn in the old stuff for the new bills at the exchange rate , after that you can burn it.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 02, 2009, 07:19:23 PM »

he is a definate one term president and will go down in history as the worst ever. As someone mentioned even lower than Carter. Yes sir...CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!...ha hah a ha hhahaaa

teamnelson · « **Reply #9 on:** December 02, 2009, 09:48:30 PM »

I'd be shocked if he only had one term.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #10 on:** December 03, 2009, 06:21:26 AM »

he is going down as the worst president in history no doubt. he is only one term and may not make that if he keeps going...someone might start impeachment against him.

teamnelson · « **Reply #11 on:** December 03, 2009, 06:37:38 AM »

He is the worst in my lifetime ... concur. I'd love to see him only get 1 term. Impeachment is an interesting thought; on what grounds do you propose?

Nevertheless, America will give him two terms to wreak havoc in. I only hope we've replaced congress by then.

BBF · « **Reply #12 on:** December 03, 2009, 09:27:41 AM »

Once he is gone, whether after one or two years I believe it will be a long time before a Democrat gets to sit in the WH especially a black/arab guy.

teamnelson · « **Reply #13 on:** December 03, 2009, 09:51:04 AM »

Sounds like you're thinking his loss of office is in the bag; on what basis? Seriously. We like Biden more? The same idiots that voted him in office are still out there having the same idiotic thoughts. Just because he's losing support from the extreme left doesn't mean they cease to be extremely left. The main left and the "moderates" from both parties aren't going to support a "better" candidate.

Dalton Bros. · « **Reply #14 on:** December 04, 2009, 12:30:32 PM »

Quote from: Redtail1949 on December 03, 2009, 06:21:26 AM

he is going down as the worst president in history no doubt. he is only one term and may not make that if he keeps going...someone might start impeachment against him.

I don't understand why someone hasn't started it some time ago.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 04, 2009, 01:58:53 PM »

most of this little town i live in voted for him. man all you heard was things are going to change. obama was a god send. those that will admit that they voted for him now are bitter. it just ain't turning out the way it was supposed to.

many of the older folks are scared and suddenly have become aware of the fragil economy. they see the threats to things they depend on. the younger ones are really riled up now they do not see any difference in him from all the others. they talk about the lack of transparency and the bailouts they now see as more payoff rather than something to save the economy.

yep there is an awakining going on.

i wonder with all the hell that has been raised about "...he can not do this or that.." or the "....thats in violation of the constitution..." if one just might see someone charge him with a violation of it.

BBF · « **Reply #16 on:** December 05, 2009, 09:00:56 AM »

that sort of thing would require the control of the House I believe. There is much less change that Obama would get impeached then Slick Willy would have been.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 05, 2009, 01:30:07 PM »

republicans will take it back and i will doubt very few democrats will stay in office in the next elections. if a decent independent runs next time for president i would not be surprised if he won it. if not a republican will win.

Dixie Dude · « **Reply #18 on:** December 06, 2009, 03:57:18 AM »

The one way to keep the dollar from falling, is to raise interest rates. That it turn will stiffle the economy even more. Carter had both high inflation and high interest rates. They are going to have to give tax cuts and put the brakes on spending.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 06, 2009, 04:06:08 AM »

if i were to try and list all the things that i fear number 1 on that list is the sliding value of the dollar.