Author Topic: Climate fraud: the fewments are a hittin' the windmill now! (Read 1252 times)

Questor · « **on:** December 02, 2009, 02:54:36 PM »

Have you been following the climate fraud story? It is unbelievable how much damning evidence has come out about two dozen or so top climate scientists who are have apparently falsified the basis of the entire global warming argument. This is career ending stuff for any academic under normal perpetrations of academic fraud. It will be interesting to see whose heads roll in this affair.

Did that guy from State Penn (oops, I meant Penn State) still employed, or did he have to resign under pressure yet?

billy_56081 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 02, 2009, 02:57:00 PM »

I would bet either nothing will happen to these frauds, or they will be fired and transfered to a different position.

Graybeard · « **Reply #2 on:** December 02, 2009, 06:09:56 PM »

Since what they are saying and pushing is the agenda those in charge world wide want folks to believe nothing will happen to them and in the end folks will go right back to believing what they say as truth.

bilmac · « **Reply #3 on:** December 02, 2009, 06:23:32 PM »

I'm afraid Greaybeard has it pretty well figured out. This is a world wide scale fraud and they are going to get away with it.

billy_56081 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 03, 2009, 01:49:03 AM »

AlGore and friends have never been about saving the world, it has always been about controlling human behavior. I mean AlGore and friends never walked the walk, but they sure talked the talk. While we were told to buy super efficient speck sized vehivles and use the toxic mercury filled light bulbs, his ilk jetted around the world on private jets and armoured SUV motorcades.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #5 on:** December 03, 2009, 01:59:11 AM »

GB has a point , I would add as all the untruths not only with weather change but other political topics commeing to light might start a realization that we have been lied to more often than we want to believe . It might also come to light that change is really comming , we can no longer support the waste in spending that has been going on for years . It might even make voters realize they can't keep the lifestyle they have by voting for the same old bunch . I know this is a streach but it might motivate enough Americans to get involved that we can save our country from bad change .

Questor · « **Reply #6 on:** December 03, 2009, 04:25:51 AM »

It's getting a lot of press in Europe, especially England.

Have you heard anything at all about it on public radio? I have not, and I listen to quite a bit of public radio.

bilmac · « **Reply #7 on:** December 03, 2009, 05:07:07 AM »

That's why the crooks will get away with it, the media is in bed with them. Quit listening to them and listen only to Fox. The alphabet soup media is dying because people are finding out they are nothing but left wing propaganda. If everybody quits listening that will happen all the sooner.

Empty Quiver · « **Reply #8 on:** December 03, 2009, 05:47:12 AM »

They will continue to demand change. The fact that they had no hard evidence to begin with didn't slow them one whit. This is a religion for these folks they need no evidence they have their beliefs. They are worshiping at the alter of mother earth, in total denial of the fact that man has a place here on the planet.

When those in charge of this hoax stop traveling in private aircraft, move into 1200 sq ft apartments, and give up air conditioning I may consider their story. Until that time they are frauds, poor Bernie Maddoff was a piker when compared to this crowd. Bernie didn't have the foresight to get himself elected first.

Redtail1949 · « **Reply #9 on:** December 03, 2009, 06:09:53 AM »

climate chang cap and trade is dead. too much being brought out and to many have awakend to the scam. besides no other country will sign on first they all make an excuse and urge the US to come on it first. the American people will not allow it now. the cost is mind boggling dwarfing health care and the people see it for what it is a scam. they will try and not give up... but it is dead.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #10 on:** December 03, 2009, 09:03:13 AM »

This is what I said on another thread with the same general topic and it will workd here-

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There are too many "people" staking their future on climate change for a mere "climate gate" to dissuade them from their goals! GE is staking their corporate future on it. Third world countries cant wait to get into uncle sams deep pockets. and algore stands to loose millions should this go away! So it aint!

They just will ignore the point and the press will bury it!

Questor · « **Reply #11 on:** December 03, 2009, 09:15:46 AM »

Now there's a common sense answer that will probably come true.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #12 on:** December 03, 2009, 09:20:44 AM »

There was show on the Discovery channel the other day about how the great lakes were formed. It was extremely interesting geological stuff. The great lakes will eventually go away completely when the Niagara river cuts back the Niagara falls the 35 miles to the St. Lawrence Sea Way. When that happens, all the great lakes will back flow into the Atlantic and there will just be huge empty basins. the show ended with that the worlds geologist all believe we are headed for another ice age, which would save the great lakes by greatly retarding the Niagara cut or stopping it all together.

How in the heck does the scientific community reconcile all these contradictory messages. Al Gore and his friends tell us we are warming the geologist say we are cooling. I believe the geologists since they have no political skin in the game. Gore and the democrats are simply a bunch of freaking liars.

Casull · « **Reply #13 on:** December 03, 2009, 10:36:59 AM »

Cabin4, I didn't see that show, but I truly wonder how lakes that are hundreds of feet deep can backflow themselves empty through rivers that are tens of feet deep.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #14 on:** December 03, 2009, 11:22:16 AM »

ME TOO !!

gypsyman · « **Reply #15 on:** December 03, 2009, 11:43:25 AM »

I live on one of the great lakes. I got a feeling that before they empty out, and stop billions of dollars in shipping industry, they'll figure away to stop the erosion.(like maybe a damn before the falls)Been there, wouldn't be that hard to do. Add some more generating turbines while their at it.
And it's really sad, when the only place you hear anything about this ClimateGate, is conservative talk radio,Fox news, and the Jon Stewart show. Even he did a report about it.Talk about news organizations being in the bag, if ABC,NBC,CBS reported the sky was blue, I'ld have to walk outside and check before I'ld belive them. gypsyman

blind ear · « **Reply #16 on:** December 04, 2009, 12:35:40 AM »

We are riding this speck of a rock hanging in the universe with no escape. Will we survive ourselves? India is projected to double auto production from 1.5million in 2008 to 3 million or so in 2015, China 8 mil to 16 mil same period. With related mfg effect and growth in world population what will happen? I don't know but appears to be a tidal wave of poo poo of mountainous size building. I hope SOMEONE is smart enough to sail this ship but will we survive until they emerge? what will it take to make us change our critical behaviors? They may be mostly wrong but they might be a lot right also on some things. eddiegjr

ironglow · « **Reply #17 on:** December 04, 2009, 12:59:12 AM »

I won't lose any sleep over the situation with the falls! I live about 60 miles from them but almost never go there; last time I guess was at least 30 years ago.
The falls used to wear quite a bit faster, but since the robt moses power project, they have constructed things to cut the rate and they are down to about a foot per year, obviously 5,280 feet..so 35 miles gives us 184,800 years to figure it out...and dams have worked fairly well for a long time.

Here's some infgo, scroll down to rate of erosion;

http://www.niagarafrontier.com/faq.html#erosion

Cabin4 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 04, 2009, 04:51:11 PM »

Quote from: Casull on December 03, 2009, 10:36:59 AM

Cabin4, I didn't see that show, but I truly wonder how lakes that are hundreds of feet deep can backflow themselves empty through rivers that are tens of feet deep.

The point I was trying to make was the show talked about a coming ice age and how this conflicts with the global warming hysteria from the like of Gore.

On the draining: If I get a chance to see the show again, I verify what they say about this.

Foxxtrot · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2009, 05:17:32 PM »

The point I was trying to make was the show talked about a coming ice age and how this conflicts with the global warming hysteria from the like of Gore.

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mcwoodduck · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2009, 05:24:27 PM »

Today I was on the weather channel and saw a section on Climate and green. I clicked on it to read more of the lies.
I typed an E-mail to them stating how can they still promote the lie?
I said sure more efficent, cleaner is good but to advance cleaner and greener you can not back it up with phoney science and a lie that was there to line $ into Al Gores' pockets and kill jobs and limit choices.
I also said that the green people should be turniung on Gore and asking for the Oscar and Nobel prize back.

torpedoman · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2009, 05:26:41 PM »

It is all B.S. but there are people who are so brainwashed that no matter what happens they believe to prove all the "science" is B.S. they still believe it my wife is one and no matter what is said in contradiction her brain just shuts off and won't hear or see the facts.As for being career ending far from it these people will end up as the leaders in the collages your kids will go to.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #22 on:** December 04, 2009, 11:39:39 PM »

Well now the "party" line is that there really is "global Warming" and we are killing the planet buuuuuut they had to use phony science to make their points because "we" would not believe the truth without the extra...............(what is the word i'm looking for here) BS lies, yea thats the one!

BTW we had snow here on the Upper Texas Coast yesterday and last night,

First time since 1948 and 1949 that we had snow on the ground in December in two successive years! We had it last year on the 11th and this year on the 4th....................... HMMMMMMMM seems its coming earlier!

bilmac · « **Reply #23 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:37:27 AM »

Better watch out OL'shooter, next thing you know you'll have glaciers at your doorstep.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #24 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:59:24 AM »

Yea !!!!! and maybe polar bears!!!!! ya think? Always wanted to hunt polar bears!

magooch · « **Reply #25 on:** December 05, 2009, 03:21:51 AM »

This global warming was the one thing that I was counting on and now it seems that the liberals even lie about the climate. I should have known better, but heck, I even believed the Kenyan when he said he was going to lower my taxes. Boy, am I a sucker.

But what is a "fewment"?

wganz · « **Reply #26 on:** December 05, 2009, 04:07:02 AM »

Quote from: Empty Quiver on December 03, 2009, 05:47:12 AM

They will continue to demand change. The fact that they had no hard evidence to begin with didn't slow them one whit. This is a religion for these folks they need no evidence they have their beliefs. They are worshiping at the alter of mother earth, in total denial of the fact that man has a place here on the planet.

When those in charge of this hoax stop traveling in private aircraft, move into 1200 sq ft apartments, and give up air conditioning I may consider their story. Until that time they are frauds, poor Bernie Maddoff was a piker when compared to this crowd. Bernie didn't have the foresight to get himself elected first.

Pretty well sums it up.

wganz · « **Reply #27 on:** December 05, 2009, 04:09:33 AM »

Quote from: magooch on December 05, 2009, 03:21:51 AM

This global warming was the one thing that I was counting on and now it seems that the liberals even lie about the climate. I should have known better, but heck, I even believed the Kenyan when he said he was going to lower my taxes. Boy, am I a sucker.

But what is a "fewment"?

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Fewments is a medieval hunting term that describes the droppings of an animal. ...

http://www.bukisa.com/articles/98458_th-whites

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2009, 06:32:46 AM »

I couldn't believe it last night I fell asleep with the TV on watching Numbers and AL Gore was on David Letterman and promoting a new book about Man Made Climate Change.
Wow. These idiots are going to go down swinging.
Well something to mve around in the bookstore from where ever they put the book to the Science Fiction section. Being in San Fran it should be fun to see the reactions of the people in the store when I move all of them.
I did it in LA and even took a Copy of Clinton's MY Lies, Sorry My Life and moved them, all of them to the fiction section.

highwayman · « **Reply #29 on:** December 05, 2009, 06:57:39 AM »

the talk about global warming reminds me of a saying'' if you repeat the same thing over and over someone will start to believe it, even if it a lie"