Author Topic: Poll for special order Handi from H&R (Read 8183 times)

jeepmann1948 · « **Reply #30 on:** December 03, 2009, 10:20:42 AM »

My unaksed for opinion is :
If 500 people vote for , say a 257 Roberts perhaps 200 will actually order one.
On the other side of the coin is, the already available calibers can be loaded down to the 257 Roberts (25/06) & 30/40(30-06, 308) levels
Maybe the best choices would be something not yet available ie 338, 45, 6.5 calibers

Airsporter · « **Reply #31 on:** December 03, 2009, 10:40:22 AM »

I'd love to see pistol calibers offered in the superlight barrel configuration (.32 H&R mag, 9mm, .357 mag, 45ACP, etc.). At least as accessory barrels.

petemi · « **Reply #32 on:** December 03, 2009, 10:58:54 AM »

Bill, as much as I don't want to, I gotta agree wid ya.......But, the fact still remains; I need a good architect...This old farm house needs an addition. Patty has refused to sleep with any more Handis. I've got her convinced they breed. SSSSHHHHHH.

Pete

Tallwalker · « **Reply #33 on:** December 03, 2009, 11:08:51 AM »

Around here the .45 Colt Handi's just sit on the shelf so I doubt the .45 ACP would sell that well. I voted for the 30-40 Krag since it's a traditional rimmed caliber for a single shot. I have a bolt .257 Roberts, but would probably buy a standard or synthetic stocked Handi in that caliber too. I like the looks of the .338, but haven't seen a good variety of bullets for slower guns in that bore size, and don't see much interest in cast bullets, or molds either. So in order of preference, and breaking the rules since you knew we would here is my list.

1. 30-40 Krag
2. .35 Remington
3. .257 Roberts

45-70.gov · « **Reply #34 on:** December 03, 2009, 11:30:19 AM »

45 acp
i will take 4 of them
if they are scope ready

i like a rifle to go with your hand gun and i want it scoped without the scope just use the hand gun
you didnt want to dicuss styles but oh well
scope ready [posably thumb hole stock] shorter barrell

you didn't want other calibers either oh well

357 max
35 rem
460 snw
454 casul
405 winchester

Oldshooter · « **Reply #35 on:** December 03, 2009, 11:38:32 AM »

Quote from: burntmuch on December 03, 2009, 04:52:44 AM

Yeah no interest here either. Now a 35 rem Id go for

+1

Otony · « **Reply #36 on:** December 03, 2009, 03:03:57 PM »

Other than the .35 Remington, which I simply forgot, the rest of those choices were based on two things.

First, the number of times I noted folks asking for a particular chambering or configuration. I have been lurking here for MUCH longer than I have been posting, and really tore up the archives for months. The .257 Bob and .30-40 come up a LOT on this forum. Longer barreled thuty-thuttys came up a lot as well. So does .45ACP (and 9mm Luger/Parabelum for that matter).

There was a poll for .338 Marlin already and it created an enormous number of posts (yes, as did the .35 Remington).

The .220 Swift was just a throw away, as they already chamber .22-250, a close comparitive cartridge. So other than the Swift, I based my choices on an actual study of the archives. No, I did not count or cross reference.

As to chambering for .32-20, it is also frequently called for, but Marlin has not had an enormous amount of luck with their runs of .32-20 and .32 Magnum, so I figured we might not lean in that direction...yet. And remember, Marlin is currently making the barrels, so they would likely have some input.

I figured that if it were at all possible to do this it had to be something not too far afield for them to produce. The easier it is for Marlin/H&R/Remington to make, the more likely we could get a distributor to order it. And much more importantly, SELL it. If we request a bore size they are not even currently producing, the costs go up, simple as that. I would love to see an 8mm Mauser Handi or a .303 Handi, but economics and simple facts come into play here.

I already noted that my choices were not necessarily the best. This is just a test balloon to see if we can even agree on something. Notice we are having trouble there?

You might notice that there have been quite a few folks request the .257, it is in the lead currently. That does not mean we coudln't request a .32-20 the following year, or a .405 the year after that. It means we MIGHT get a distributor to take us seriously the first time, which leads to the second, and possibly the third. Lets get on the map easily before we load up for Antartica, eh?

Remington made good money for 20 years doing the limited run 700 Classics. I see a possibility to institute a similar program, on a smaller scale. But first we have to agree to agree. Start with some easy choices, then branch out. It is a plan, albeit hurried and crude.

Otony

quickdtoo · « **Reply #37 on:** December 03, 2009, 03:35:56 PM »

I got some official numbers required for a special run, 250 for a normal bore, 500 if additional tooling is required, like for a 405 Winchester or another bore they don't do normally.

Tim

Mitch in MI · « **Reply #38 on:** December 03, 2009, 03:39:33 PM »

I'm not buying a new rifle in the foreseeable future so I didn't vote, but I might buy a 26" 30-30 barrel if they're doing a run of them. Lots of fun things a guy could do with a reamer and a long 30-30 barrel.

Otony · « **Reply #39 on:** December 03, 2009, 03:42:33 PM »

Thanks Tim. Okay folks, there you have it, word from on high. We HAVE to find some common ground. Please remember that this is a springboard for other things. If we can actually pull this poll into some sort of agreement, different choices are a possibility further down the road. A slim possibility, I will grant you, but one that could exist if we can co-operate.

Man Tim, I have a sudden and deep understanding of the trouble you go through here being a moderator!

dave hall · « **Reply #40 on:** December 03, 2009, 04:06:42 PM »

I would be one of the first with the money or sign something on a 405,but the cartridges listed I just have no interest in.Sorry guys.

pmeisel · « **Reply #41 on:** December 04, 2009, 02:30:04 AM »

30/40, I like rims on my cartridges!

pvtschultz · « **Reply #42 on:** December 04, 2009, 07:28:29 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on December 03, 2009, 08:40:23 AM

Quote from: pvtschultz on December 03, 2009, 07:58:04 AM
I vote for 45 ACP. I'm still really irritated that they discontinued the 45 Colt accessory barrel ...

It's not discontinued, just out of stock like several others, they won't be making any more until next year.

Tim

I hope that you're right. They still list it as "No Longer Available" though. Did that mean for rest of the year, or forever? They still make the 45 Colt carbine so you'd think that an accessory barrel would be a chip shot.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #43 on:** December 04, 2009, 09:07:43 AM »

Not necessarily, they make more money on complete rifles, so restricting existing barrel inventory to fulfill distributor orders for rifles makes sense, the same reason they don't offer new chamberings as accessory barrels until several months after the complete rifles are available.

Tim

Plainsman · « **Reply #44 on:** December 04, 2009, 01:44:53 PM »

I have several cartridges I'd like a Handi chambered in, but none of these, sorry!

45-70.gov · « **Reply #45 on:** December 04, 2009, 02:30:09 PM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on December 03, 2009, 03:35:56 PM

I got some official numbers required for a special run, 250 for a normal bore, 500 if additional tooling is required, like for a 405 Winchester or another bore they don't do normally.

Tim

so less than
one hundred thousand dollars
we can have 500 405 winchesters

or less than $50k we can have any of the choices

seems like a distributer would find a market for that

any idea what distributer cost is??

jacksrbtr46 · « **Reply #46 on:** December 04, 2009, 05:29:41 PM »

I'm with Pete, Dave Hall, and Plainsman, none of the calibers listed make my heart beat any faster. So I didn't vote either. Maybe we have another poll or catagory started. "None of the above".

Jack

Graybeard · « **Reply #47 on:** December 04, 2009, 05:39:49 PM »

That's the sad reality of life folks. There just isn't enough consensus on what chambering and configuration folks want to get the numbers up there in a poll here. No doubt if all the lurkers who might actually buy one once it came out were posters and voters you might but they aren't. I doubt one in 100 folks who read here ever have or ever will post or vote.

I'm sure if a distributor wanted to spend that kinda money they'd eventually sell them but they don't survive in business by eventually selling them. They want to know they will move and move quickly to make it worth their time to invest the money up front for such special orders. They just aren't convinced the guns will sell quickly. If it were a higher profit margin item they might be willing to gamble but with a low cost and low profit margin item it's just too big a gamble.

Perhaps one of our multi-millionaire handi holics here will agree to front the money for a distributor so he can have his favorite made. Or maybe he'd just pay Wayne $300 to have it.

bilmac · « **Reply #48 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:46:15 AM »

Guess I'm one of those lurkers. I've always admired the Roberts and would like to have one, but really can't see a real practical difference between it and a 243 which I already own. After all it was the 6's that kind of killed off the 25's years ago. It they had both been sitting on the shelf when I bought the 243 then I would be a Bob owner now, but I can't see getting all worked up over .14 inch difference.

Tallwalker · « **Reply #49 on:** December 05, 2009, 04:47:34 AM »

If it were a .14 difference it sure would be meaningful!

45-70.gov · « **Reply #50 on:** December 05, 2009, 05:42:33 AM »

i think its odd that a down loaded 26-06 is winning so far

i voted 45acp and it is catching up i would order 4 if i saw them listed at my distributer TODAY
if you carry a 45acp nad wanted a companion fifle the choices are few

run this poll in the handgun forum see what happens!!!!!

Plainsman · « **Reply #51 on:** December 05, 2009, 08:18:02 AM »

.45-70: And even weirder aspect is that if it was a .25-35, I'd be all over it!!

I love the .25-06, but a .25-35 out of a Handi would be an awesome rifle for me and my uses!! I don't have any desire to get a .257 Roberts as it just falls in between the other two. And I agree, it would be so close to a .243 that there isn't much difference, but I already have everything for a .25-06, so sticking with .257" makes more sense than getting into a .243...

45-70.gov · « **Reply #52 on:** December 05, 2009, 06:01:29 PM »

AMUNITION.......to day dream with

cavebear803 · « **Reply #53 on:** December 05, 2009, 07:37:25 PM »

I voted for the 338; mostly because I would love to try that caliber without spending 700 for a marlin and get maybe 400 when I found out I didn't like it as much as my 338/06!! But as we all know we can't all agree on anything or we would have stronger gun rights and a lot less anti- america BS! Hollis

maglvr44 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:31:34 AM »

How I would love to have been at the party you left just before dreaming this one up!

You'll win 200 state lotteries before 200 people can agree on a style to have made.
I'll vote for 70-150 Winchester in a 16" Trapper, saddle ring carbine, with 3 leaf express sights.

Big Blue · « **Reply #55 on:** December 06, 2009, 02:07:52 AM »

I voted for a .260 Rem. Oh that wasn't there, okay .257 Roberts then!
Don

Fazak · « **Reply #56 on:** December 06, 2009, 03:23:32 AM »

.327 federal with a .308 groove dimension

MSP Ret · « **Reply #57 on:** December 06, 2009, 03:30:44 AM »

I was torn between the .45 ACP and the 30-40 Krag. I have both and they are great guns. I voted for the .45 ACP because the 30-40 Krag is easily made from a 30-30 barrel but the .45 ACP is unto itself....<><....

Otony · « **Reply #58 on:** December 06, 2009, 06:03:19 AM »

"My compliments on your organizational skills Otony. Have you ever considered running for Congress, we need some new folks there."

"How I would love to have been at the party you left just before dreaming this one up!

"

Am I supposed to interpret this as you guys calling me Ted Kennedy?

bilmac · « **Reply #59 on:** December 06, 2009, 09:48:37 AM »

No good sir, you have done an admirable job of trying to make some sense out of the crazy bunch of guys who inhabit this here forum. What's the saying, "Like trying to herd cats". You obviously have some leadership skills, and I was only half joking about running for Congress, there is no competent leadership there to speak of.

Poll

Choose ONE that we can agree on, need a minimum of 250 or 500 orders

Author Topic: Poll for special order Handi from H&R (Read 8183 times)