Author Topic: Poll for special order Handi from H&R (Read 8192 times)

Couger · « **Reply #60 on:** December 06, 2009, 09:59:58 AM »

Quote from: Fazak

.327 federal with a .308 groove dimension

Eggsellent suggestion Fazak! Truly, excellent!

I've considered the .327M in a rifle as well. No doubt there would also be those loonies that would "just have to" modd their .327 riffles to be .308cal .32-20 single-riffles, too!

manatee1947 · « **Reply #61 on:** December 07, 2009, 02:58:21 PM »

personally I think it is awesome that you have got this together and run with it!! All of the nay sayers remind me of the guys who sat around the wall at the dance and bad mouthed the guys who were dancing, Maybe not everyone got the prettiest girl, but at least you can dance, and that beats setting and watching every time!! Out of this bunch I would look at the 30-40. The reason for going to the handi is because it is something different. If I wanted a standard caliber I could buy a standard bolt gun almost as cheap in many cases. I liked the guys Idea about the smallest caliber in the bore group, if they did make a 25-20 I would have one, and then a 256 winchester, and a 25/35. Actually there are about 6-8 calibers that I would plunk down the cash for, but none of them high pressure bottleneck cartridges. The 338 marlin is interesting, but I already have a Whelan. But if it never gets beyond the debate stage, this is still more fun than seeing pictures of a cherry varnish drying on a pallet wood stock !!!

yipper · « **Reply #62 on:** December 08, 2009, 03:01:58 AM »

No interest in those calibers. I have a 30-30 and like the shorter barrel. My preference for new offerings would be a 7.62x39 that works with military ammo. After that, a .303 British or a 7.62x54R.

BrianB · « **Reply #63 on:** December 08, 2009, 04:39:50 AM »

Quote from: Couger on December 06, 2009, 09:59:58 AM

Quote from: Fazak
.327 federal with a .308 groove dimension

Eggsellent suggestion Fazak! Truly, excellent!

I've considered the .327M in a rifle as well. No doubt there would also be those loonies that would "just have to" modd their .327 riffles to be .308cal .32-20 single-riffles, too!

I have wondered why they didn't offer that one as well. Several different cartridges you could shoot out of it. Excellent for shorter range varmits with the .327 and a really good small game rifle with some of the lower-powered .32 cartridges or low-power .327 handloads.

That one I would buy, though I realize I'm in the minority.

preventec47 · « **Reply #64 on:** December 08, 2009, 12:56:09 PM »

Russian 7.62 x 54R for the simple reason they are the cheapest centerfire cartridge
you can buy. AND I have two thousand of them. I want any style that would allow
a scope and be a ton more accurate than my 91/30 or M44

I've about decided that shooting with those guns is just a waste of ammo
for no good reason. Round ball muzzle loaders are more accurate.

Otony · « **Reply #65 on:** December 09, 2009, 06:29:21 PM »

Well, I guess Graybeard was right?

snapcrackpop · « **Reply #66 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:56:15 AM »

I'd like a 30-30 someday, but what's the advantage of a 26"?

Otony · « **Reply #67 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:17:59 AM »

A 26" hangs a bit nicer, and gives you a bit more velocity. It also is a GREAT candidate for a rechamber to .30-40 or .30-06, and 26" in either of those makes for an even better showing.

Folks, it has been hinted at that the folks at H&R are aware of this poll. If we can demonstrate some numbers here they MIGHT take us seriously. Even if the chamberings shown are not your exact cup of tea, please vote. It could lead to other choices down the road. I am a bit discouraged at the number of folks who don't grasp this, and say they won't vote.

Participation means possibilities, no participation means squat. We have 1720 views, and less than 160 votes. Granted, many folks click on this every time there is an update, but a surprising number of you posted just to write that you won't vote, or are just looky-loos. Try and look outside the box (poll) and grasp what active involvement in this pol might mean for us.

We just might see the .32-20, .25-20, and .25-35 down the road if we could have ONE concensus here and now. Why would H&R be interested in our dreams if we are not?

blacksan · « **Reply #68 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:25:18 AM »

Quote from: Otony on December 10, 2009, 06:17:59 AM

A 26" hangs a bit nicer, and gives you a bit more velocity. It also is a GREAT candidate for a rechamber to .30-40 or .30-06, and 26" in either of those makes for an even better showing.

Folks, it has been hinted at that the folks at H&R are aware of this poll. If we can demonstrate some numbers here they MIGHT take us seriously. Even if the chamberings shown are not your exact cup of tea, please vote. It could lead to other choices down the road. I am a bit discouraged at the number of folks who don't grasp this, and say they won't vote.

Participation means possibilities, no participation means squat. We have 1720 views, and less than 160 votes. Granted, many folks click on this every time there is an update, but a surprising number of you posted just to write that you won't vote, or are just looky-loos. Try and look outside the box (poll) and grasp what active involvement in this pol might mean for us.

We just might see the .32-20, .25-20, and .25-35 down the road if we could have ONE concensus here and now. Why would H&R be interested in our dreams if we are not?

The 32-20 is real fun, I had the pleasure of shooting that caliber in an 1873 Winchester and it was a HOOT!

quickdtoo · « **Reply #69 on:** December 10, 2009, 06:38:52 AM »

Even the 35 Whelen poll didn't reach 250 votes, if it wasn't for the MS and LA market, it probably wouldn't have made it back into current production. $:-\$

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,161874.msg1098724283.html#msg1098724283

BrianB · « **Reply #70 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:34:03 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on December 10, 2009, 06:38:52 AM

Even the 35 Whelen poll didn't reach 250 votes, if it wasn't for the MS and LA market, it probably wouldn't have made it back into current production. $:-\$

Tim

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,161874.msg1098724283.html#msg1098724283

I feel pretty sure H&R could sell plenty more .35 Whelen's here in Mississippi. There is a good number of hunters who don't like the recoil of a 45-70, others who are still using muzzleloaders and some who just like the caliber. That caliber really makes the Handi a gun for primitive weapons season and the regular season as well. I'm not sure how many of the guys from Louisiana came over and bought some because their primitive weapons season calls for .38 caliber and larger. (Ours calls for .35 and larger)

So far as not voting on the listed calibers... I know I risk getting jumped on for this, but there really aren't any on there that interest me because in virtually every case, the reality is that there is already something very similar offered. I think the low number of votes probably speaks to that.

Like I posted before, if they came out with a .327 Mag, I'd be all over it. Great small game, straight wall round and could shoot a couple of different cartridges. .327 for varmits, .32 long or light-load .327's for small game. That would be a fun plinker as well.
32-20 and 25-20 would be fun also. I'll bet there are a couple of other calibers out there that do not compete with current production and would have larger market appeal.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #71 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:40:31 AM »

The Whelen is scheduled for production in synthetic and wood stock with a 22" barrel for 2010, I suspect Louisiana is considering changing their min cal to .35.

Tim

http://www.wlf.louisiana.gov/pdfs/about/2009feblwfc.pdf

Steve P · « **Reply #72 on:** December 10, 2009, 07:44:15 AM »

Quote from: preventec47 on December 08, 2009, 12:56:09 PM

Russian 7.62 x 54R for the simple reason they are the cheapest centerfire cartridge
you can buy. AND I have two thousand of them. I want any style that would allow
a scope and be a ton more accurate than my 91/30 or M44

I've about decided that shooting with those guns is just a waste of ammo
for no good reason. Round ball muzzle loaders are more accurate.

Sounds to me like you either have bad ammo, or bad guns. I have 4 of the military 7.62x45s and at 100 yards with open sights I can break clay pigeons and then bust up the florescent pieces of what is left. I have exploded milk jugs at 200 and toppled soda cans at same distance with better than 50% of my shots. I doubt you will find a Handi that shoots any better than the old Military war horses.

I voted for the BoB. Let me know when and where to send the $$s.

Steve

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #73 on:** December 10, 2009, 02:43:41 PM »

1800 hits and only 163 votes?

Are the 163 of us checking this that often? DP

pmeisel · « **Reply #74 on:** December 10, 2009, 04:18:39 PM »

I visit a couple times a week.....

manatee1947 · « **Reply #75 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:28:55 PM »

I check about every day when there are interesting threads like this. The news about the whelen is very welcome, I have it in other weapons and am a fan. Giving a heads up is good. I was a fan of the Remington classic that they put out in a new caliber every year, that was a good thing to do. Now that Rem is the parent, naybe they they will do that with a handi. I am glad this many were interested, and thank you Otony.

blacksan · « **Reply #76 on:** December 11, 2009, 02:55:08 PM »

Why not a straight 35 Rem vs the Whelen? The reason I say this is the non reloaders could pick up ammo a little easier even though 35 Rem is not as prevalent as it was in the past. Heck, 32 Win Special (even more obscure) would be neat as it performs well and is pretty accurate in my 1952 circa Marlin 336 RC.

Ten Ring · « **Reply #77 on:** December 24, 2009, 12:43:22 PM »

Take a look at the Ms. forum, if they don't get the problem's solved on the whelen they may not sale.
jim

Singleshotsam · « **Reply #78 on:** January 05, 2010, 07:02:12 PM »

If your interested in a "custom" NEF from the factory then why don't you pick a caliber that is easily obtainable and produced?

Pick a standard bbl contour, say 26" since everybody seem saavy on that bbl length. Throw on a very nice black walnut stock set say like the bc sets only w/ a nice factory decelerator pad installed from the factory. Add on a nice set of williams adjustable peep sights and call it good. Maybe throw on a GBO logo on the buttstock b/c that seems to be our common thread.

I say stick w/ a 30/06 or .270 myself. Why? NEF has them in stock and they are proven shooters. If you dead set on a cabine length go w/ the .357. Don't get all crazy w/ special/oddball calibers that are hard to get for those of us that do not reload or are very expensive to buy from the factory. Go w/ what people like and run w/ it. Go w/ what people like and you'll have your 200 purchasers in no time.

hunman55 · « **Reply #79 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:10:39 AM »

You're probably right, GB, but I'll vote for a 26in. 30-40. Hunman55

PartsMan · « **Reply #80 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:23:19 PM »

I voted for and would by the Bob.

Also interested in the long 30-30.

blind ear · « **Reply #81 on:** January 07, 2010, 07:32:53 AM »

I would like to see them make a 32 bore, say a 32 H&R, If it had a standard contour just think how many new projects we could get into. Ream to 327 max. Chamber to lots of stuff. just need it to be of a faster twist to carrry the heavier bullits. eddiegjr

gcrank1 · « **Reply #82 on:** January 10, 2010, 05:54:46 AM »

1) 327M X 26
2) 30-30 x 26
3) 30-40 K X26
Since wood is so easy to swap the factory should give buyer the option. ie, classic or lam, etc. Any choice.
If they ever do a 25-20 it should be in a faster twist than traditional, otherwise too limited on bullet weight. The 25-35 would really be the smart 25 chambering, c/w good (Williams?) open sights and scope mount, 26". (oops, now this would become my #1).
While at it they need to tune up the machinery to get better dimensions on wood/metal (the wrist!) fit and recontour the nose of the comb on the classic (take a look at the Winchester '85 buttstock and forestock, guys, please!). Peple wanting a 'traditional' looking single shot WANT a traditional looking....etc,etc.
If it looked right, and balanced right, then it should also be right in traditional calibers, like 32-40 (how did they miss that one, the important one, on the Target Model offering?)
There IS a market out here for a well built, yet affordable single shot. They can make some money off this if they offer the right product (study the demographics and what we want, build it and we will come).

BlkHawk73 · « **Reply #83 on:** January 10, 2010, 06:12:55 AM »

I've tried this same thing (different brand but same idea) and it's nearly impossible. Everyone wants just as they want, and wouldn't waiver one bit. Rather than accept a slight difference in bbl length, stock material, sights, whatever... They would rather have the whole thing tossed. Easy way to kill the whole thing that way. I wish this project success but certainly not holding my breath.
Also a big hurdle in anything like this as far as the chambering goes is proof ammo. If it's an odd-ball chambering the proof ammo isn't readily available so there goes the project.
That said, none are really my top choices, but the .30-30 would be my pick form the available choices - great platform for handloads.

Alvin · « **Reply #84 on:** January 17, 2010, 08:23:32 AM »

Looks like we have 2 clear leaders. How about a runoff vote between the .257 and the .45 ACP? I'm for the .45 myself, might buy 2 and ream one to 45 Colt since I prefer a standard rifle to the Buffalo Classic. Barrel length wouldn't matter since I'd probably trim it to 16.5" anyway. That's plenty of barrel for a 45 ACP.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #85 on:** January 17, 2010, 08:41:50 AM »

What's the point? Even combined, the total votes is well short of the 250 required. $:-\$

Tim

Alvin · « **Reply #86 on:** January 17, 2010, 09:08:38 AM »

Just thought we could narrow the focus and get some bigger numbers behind one choice.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #87 on:** January 17, 2010, 09:21:54 AM »

Not gonna happen, the total vote count of 219 wasn't even enough, let alone to get everyone on the same page.

Tim

RED132 · « **Reply #88 on:** January 17, 2010, 11:55:50 AM »

26" 30-30 More velocity better balance less muzzle blast.

lee1954 · « **Reply #89 on:** January 17, 2010, 07:42:23 PM »

voted for Bob -- Any acept the swift I'd go for...I'd like 25-35 or 35/30-30 also the 219 jet, or realy like the 32-20 (first choice) ... hope to get the 35 whelen Dan

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Choose ONE that we can agree on, need a minimum of 250 or 500 orders

Author Topic: Poll for special order Handi from H&R (Read 8192 times)