yeah, if someone actually mouths off to the troops or about the troops, then that person might be a traitor.... the strange thing is NO ONE ON THIS ENTIRE THREAD HAS SAID ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE TROOPS- THE CLOSEST THING IS ME SAYING THAT PEOPLE WHO RAID FOREIGNERS HOUSES SHOULDN'T BLAME THE FOREIGNERS FOR AMBUSHING THEM!!!!!!!
don't attack cabin4 for standing tall and not backing down to public opinion- if the politicians cared about the muslims in an altruistic sense then the bombing would have destroyed all the baath party loyalists, the infantry would have killed all the republican guard (did kill most of them), the army wouldn't have bribed the sadr militia- would have killed them all, and then the US would have left. seeing to the destruction of the tyrant was completely quite awhile ago guys. so was killing off most of his family and closest lieutenants. those people have their freedom. now it's political manuevering and imperialism. I understand the great and wonderful ideal of helping those poor muslims live a wonderful life... but I don't care about them. Flood, famine, plague, IED's and suicide bombers- all their problems and not mine. If the muslims are hated so much and such a big enemy then WHY DON'T YOU WRITE YOUR CONGRESS PERSONS AND TELL THEM TO GET THE MUSLIMS OUT!? THAT is a REAL problem. I don't care about allah ackbar jihad mohammed murderers over there... I care about the guys running the gas stations funneling "charity" money to the middle east and organizations like cair.
PS beerbelly, you were a pog so what health problems do you have? ied wounds with shrapnel grinding in your joints and recurring cataracts from scarred up eyes? no you were a desk jockey. why don't you put up your paperwork? if you don't want to put up your dd214 with all the social security number/address/phone and such info- then you can put your terminal orders up and I'll see your rank and termination date to see that you actually served. mine said lance corporal so that took care of it- and 3/7 is a grunt battalion. I bet you know that though becasuse you probably worked at ipac
pcking78- most of your points are good but you seem to think people are bashing the troops- why? we say the principal of occupation is fundementally flawed by hypocritical sentiment. we don't blame the people who are honor bound to go- they'd get a dishonorable discharge which is like a felony- for refusing. we know that! we haven't said american influence hasn't made a good impact either, we said it's not wanted and usually resented.