Purity of sympathy for the police killed near Seattle last week

[Questor]

The killings of those cops last week struck a chord with me. It is a textbook example of how dangerous police work can be.

Those police were killed just because they were police. It's not as if they were in a scuffle with a dangerous person or in a car crash, or some other misfortune that I consider a typical danger of the profession. This was an absurd killing that we can look at and have total sympathy for. The scuffles and crashes go with the territory of being a cop. Being assassinated, I suppose, does too. But I find it harder to accept because of the madness of it.

[magooch]

All of that is exactly why one of my first thoughts was that the Lakewood cops and all cops should realize that they are potential targets for the nutballs that are roaming our country.  Uniformed police are highly visible and need to be aware at all times of that fact and should never get complacent.  This is where we are and there's very little that will, or can be done about it without taking away even more of all of our liberty.  We don't live in a make believe world; we never have.

[Squib]

weapons of opportunity and crude fashion are just as lethal but with a shorter reach... hey I bet a good punch to the back of the head would do it if the puncher knew how to throw a good one, same for chokes and bricks...it only takes one attack to put someone down.  while it's sad that the felon had the hardware to shoot the cops, I don't worry about the liberty issue- look at my weapons argument above, I don't think this incident will empower the brady's but scare regular citizens into protecting themselves.  if it could happen to cops, it CAN happen to us.

[williamlayton]

Questor
Who can fathom madness/How can one fathom madness.
It is a condition foreign to logic---and that is what makes it so dangerous.
Awareness is a good thought. My neighbor is a policeofficer---under cover in narcotics. When I knock on his door, he often appears thru the garage---awareness!
Is this a life we can expect? Well, he is pretty well indoctrinated---what about us average Joe citizens? I think that history shows us that our forefathers were much of the same mindsets. This madness is not a new coming.
Growing up in the 40's and 50's all had a weapon in the car---this was not just fashion/fashionable.
I think that liberals would lull us into a sense of purple haze and take away some of our more basic instincts of survival that have served us so well thru history.
Our first defense is ourownselves and the cops know where the paperwork is.
I think it is necessary that we shake off these feeling of unvunerability and return to a more basic mindframe.
Blessings 

[Oldshooter]

I also am saddened for the loss of those officers. I have always said that they mostly clean up messes and that they cannot protect you, you have to do that! Now it seems that they may not can protect themselves. 

[slim rem 7]

 i personally think it might not have been madness... what better individual to use to
 panic people about guns at this time..all the anti gunners had to do was pay somebody that knew them,, to
 stir these fellas up to do it.. its just to dang serving of  anti gunners purpose for me to believe these men did this ,,if it didn t serve thier purpose.. the killers are about drugs an what ever else they want... but im guessing easily manipulated by someone of thier color who was paid to stir them to doing something like this..
 the timing is just to dang convenient..the anti gunners have thier best chance ever to finally eliminate right to bear arms..
 i know to many on here i ll sound like a rabbit dog,, on a deer trail .. but i look at who s purpose it served..
 i don t believe it was random crazyness..i expect more of it to happen..
  time may tell whether im a beagle on a rabbit trail or a parranoid about my gun rights..think boys ..whos purpose does it best serve.. they were just dumb pawns being manipulated.. i ll stay with that..
 no they never knew it had anything to do with gun control .. like i say thier hatred for police was just used..
 imo stay with that opinion..just to dang convenient..slim

[wganz]

Questor
Who can fathom madness/How can one fathom madness.
It is a condition foreign to logic---and that is what makes it so dangerous.

He was a convert to the Nation of Islam. Witnesses stated that he had previously said that he was going to kill cops, shoot up a school, and shoot up a highway intersection. I'm glad that the officer that spotted that suspicious car had stopped and was able to put an end to this without being harmed. Jihad and a martyr's death in said jihad are tenets of faith in Mohammedanism. Interesting is the sheer number of laws that he had previously violated and none of them actually kept him from illegally obtaining a firearms to commit addition felony offenses.

Read the book, People of the Lie, by M. Scott Peck. [http://tinyurl.com/yfpskx9] to see the road the author traveled. He started off to see if there could be a psychological clinical diagnosis of 'EVIL' and became a Christian from his research. His conclusion that there is evil and G*D is the only cure.

Our world has turned its back G*D and it is paying the price for its rebellion. 

Regards,

[williamlayton]

GOD
Blessings

[Oldshooter]

Explain : G*D Is there some reason you cant/wont say God?

I'm not calling anybody out here I was just curious, and I really think the man can speak for himself

[Squib]

perhaps he doesn't want to speak for the lord, blasphemy intentional or not is a sin- lots of people throw the name around but he's trying to be better than that?  I feel like a pos when I bring up scripture because I'm not the pope and shouldn't be telling people how to interpret the laws of the divine.... though I'm alright with a guy like will or dee using it because they really try to live up to it.

[BBF]

OS Yes, there could be a real good reason if he is a Jew.

[slim rem 7]

i think its his way of emphasizing god..i don t worry about my talk of god being blasphemy.. i worry about not being allowed to mention the words christians believe were inspired of god..the whole protestant faith is about the common man being able to advocate,believe an speak of gods benevolent but all knowing
 presents .. none can claim to know all his plan.. all can have faith, that it is a plan for the betterment of his children.. whether they particularly like his dealing with them or not.. its all about his efforts to bring mankind into faith in thier creator.. not just my opinion..but the rock ive built my life on.. believe me ..try to learn a better understanding of it..you will not find his love lacking if you turn your life over to him..
 death of any kind loses its sting then..god bless america again.. even though it seems so many have been fooled by the adversary..mans wisdom is fo naught without his guidance ..slim

[Squib]

I like communion... other than that I can't stand church.  people getting up and screaming, chanting and such, it creeps me out no matter what the message is.  that being said though, some places have more holy spirit than others, and if I feel like I need it I'll go for a weekend or two and absorb some of it... keeps me chilled out for awhile.  eventually I start being a jerk again and need to go back though.... maybe if I actually had some faith I'd not have to recharge like a battery???  I wonder what that guy doing all those murders did?  Huckabee was/is a preacher so did he feel some good in that man?  did he convince himself that he could change his heart, was he in denial of the man's failure?  I can't understand what's so hard about being decent, and I can't understand what's so hard for judging people who aren't.  huckabee is no so cold-hearted though... maybe a bit too soft.  I wonder though, was he merely decieved?  how do you all think he felt as a pastor- everyone is attacking him as a politician and that's fair--- but how about pastor huckabee (acting as governor of course)?

[slim rem 7]

 squib god bless you.. god wants more than to just recharge your battery though ..
 he wants you, your family an all mankind to turn totally to him an give up the futile ways of this world..
 but it had to be a choice you make for yourself..if it were not so he could have just made us all perfect an been done with it..have i completely succeded in this .. no,, not by a long shot.. but its my goal..
 that i believe is what he knows is mankinds lot on this earth..its his plan .. for me there is just to have total simple faith in him.. as a tiny child has faith in his mother an father..slim