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The religion of peace
« on: December 05, 2009, 02:14:39 PM »
Got this in my email today.....



OBAMA said, in his Cairo speech: "I know, too, that Islam has always
> been a part of America's story.
>
> Dear Mr. Obama:
>
> Were those Muslims that were in America when the Pilgrims first landed?
> Funny, I thought they were Native American Indians.
>
> Were those Muslims that celebrated the first Thanksgiving day? Sorry
> again, those were Pilgrims and Native American Indians.
>
> Can you show me one Muslim signature on the United States Constitution?
> Declaration of Independence? Bill of Rights? Didn't think so.
>
> Did Muslims fight for this country's freedom from England? No.
>
> Did Muslims fight during the Civil War to free the slaves in America?
> No, they did not. In fact, Muslims to this day are still the largest
> traffickers in human slavery. Your own 'half brother' a devout Muslim
> still advocates slavery himself, even though muslims of Arabic descent
> refer to black muslims as "pug nosed slaves." Says a lot of what the
> Muslim world really thinks of your family's "rich Islamic heritage"
> doesn't it Mr.Obama?
>
> Where were Muslims during the Civil Rights era of this country? Not
> present. There are no pictures or media accounts of Muslims walking side
> by side with Martin Luther King Jr.. or helping to advance the cause of
> Civil Rights.
>
> Where were Muslims during this country's Woman's Suffrage era? Again,
> not present. In fact, devout Muslims demand that women are subservient
> to men in the Islamic culture. So much so that often they are beaten for
> not wearing the 'hajib' or for talking to a man that is not a direct
> family member or their husband. Yep, the Muslims are all for women's
> rights aren't they?
>
> Where were Muslims during World War II? They were aligned with Adolf
> Hitler. The Muslim grand mufti himself met with Adolf Hitler, reviewed
> the troops and accepted support from the Nazi's in killing Jews.
>
> Finally Obama, where were Muslims on Sept. 11th, 2001? If they weren't
> flying planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or a field in
> Pennsylvania killing nearly 3,000 people on our own soil, they were
> rejoicing in the middle east. No one can dispute the pictures shown from
> all parts of the Muslim world celebrating on CNN, Fox News, MSNBC and
> other news networks that day. Strangely, the very "moderate" Muslims
> who's asses you bent over backwards to kiss in Cairo, Egypt on June 4th
> were stone cold silent post 9-11. To many Americans, their silence has
> meant approval for the acts of that day.
>
> And THAT, Obama, is the "rich heritage" Muslims have here in America.
>
> And now we can add November 5, 2009-- the slaughter of American soldiers
> at Fort Hood by a muslim major who is a doctor and a psychiatrist who
> was supposed to be counselling soldiers returning from battle in Iraq
> and Afghanistan. That, Obama is "muslim heritage" in America.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 02:39:15 PM »
Mechanic,
You hit the nail on the head with this one My Friend! Well said!

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 02:50:35 PM »

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 02:59:59 PM »
Here is an article of America bending over backward for the religion of peace.

 Hey, Want a Mosque Parking Lot Next to Your House? The Arrogance of Islam, Cowardice of the West
Imagine this:
 You’ve worked hard all of your life.  You’ve managed to pay off your house in an upwardly mobile Detroit area suburb, and you plan to live there for the rest of it.  But, suddenly, Muslims buy the home next door and turn it into a mosque, right smack-dab in the middle of your neighborhood and next door to you.  But, wait, it gets worse, the mosque members want to transform the front lawn and driveway into a parking lot.  And soon, very soon, they will insist of broadcasting the Muslim call to prayer at all hours of the day and night.  And you will have to see a crowded parking lot next door and hear the call to prayer falsely claiming that allah is the only god.
Well, if you are Bent and Renee Boving, ages 89 and 81, respectively, and the other residents of a Northville, Michigan neighborhood, you don’t have to imagine it.  It’s a nightmare that’s very real.
Sadly, and predictably, Northville Township authorities are cowering and are set to to grant the Muslims and their mosque extraordinary variances to do all of this.  It’s happening all over America.  When neighbors oppose these monstrosities in the middle of their neighborhoods, as Warren, Michigan residents did several years ago, the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the Justice Department breathe down officials’ necks and warn that opposing the mosques and refusing to grant them special privileges will result in federal lawsuits forcing it down their throats.
Mohammad Usman wants Muslims in Novi and the Northville communities to have a convenient place to pray.
Many Muslims in the area travel to Canton or Farmington Hills if they want to attend daily prayers.
So sad, too bad. So, they have to drive 15 minutes. My heart bleeds. That’s the price of faith. It’s not supposed to be easy . . . unless it’s Islam and the religion is trying to assert itself on everyone else.
But the location of the Meadowbrook Islamic Center, at 41885 Eight Mile in Northville Township, has some neighbors complaining. The center, which is not yet in use, is in a residential area and occupies a single-family home. Some neighbors also are opposed to the center’s plans to create a parking lot on the front lawn.
“We’re being invaded,” said Bent Boving, 89, from his home next door. “I’m vigorously opposed to this.”
Boving and his wife, Renee Boving, 81, said their opposition isn’t based on religion. Instead, the couple say they foresee problems from traffic, vehicle pollution and noise.
“We have no problems with diversity,” Renee Boving said.
Neighbor Steve McGuirk, 53, agreed. “The biggest thing is they want to take the whole front yard up with a parking lot.”
Jennifer Frey, community development director for Northville Township, said about 150 residents attended a Nov. 18 meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals on the issue.
At the meeting, the center, which bought the home in June, was requesting two variances. One would allow it to build a 42-space parking lot; the other deals with the house’s proximity to the road.
Normally, such a parking lot would have to be behind the building, but township officials said there is not enough room. The zoning board, which asked that the center consider a smaller parking lot, tabled action until Dec. 16.
Uh, yeah, there usually isn’t enough room for a parking lot on a lot for a home in the middle of a residential neighborhood. That’s not rocket science. Here’s an idea for these arrogant Muslims: try buying a lot in an area zoned for business, instead of asserting your religion–and a parking lot–on a quiet residential neighborhood.
Usman said some days prayers could draw as many as 100 people. Usman, a township resident since 1996 who chairs the center’s Board of Trustees, said the impact on the lives of those nearby would be minimal.
Minimal? You live in a quiet middle-class neighborhood and, five times a day, you could have 100 cars parked all over the front lawn, next door, and on your street? That’s “minimal”? Hate to see what “maximal” would be. And it won’t just be 100 cars. The traffic will grow and more and more Muslims come to this mosque, this country, and are born into high birth-rate Muslim families.
“We are very peaceful people,” he said. “We will not do anything to do harm to the community.”
He dismissed concerns from neighbors that the center would institute the Muslim call to prayer, a public broadcast of which had been a contentious issue at mosques in Hamtramck and elsewhere.
“Peaceful”?  Notice that he “dismissed” the concerns about the call to prayer, but didn’t commit that the mosque won’t do it. And, ultimately, it certainly will. I hope the people in this neighborhood enjoy waking up as early as 4:30 in the morning and, at the same time, staying up as late as 11:00 p.m. The Bovings will hear it loud and clear, since they live right next door.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 03:01:43 PM »
Yes; that's what Obama said...but you can't fix stupid... ;) :D ;D
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 03:10:11 PM »
These lairs of satans disciples are popping up everywhere. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2009, 03:40:39 PM »
the germanic people are supposedly the descendants of the original aryans (the ones that migrated to the cold north west and became more white), while the original aryans remaining bred with their neighbors and that's the iranians...  it's based on race, just like the swastika, which was around a long time before nazis (the swastika was originally a sun symbol- and hitler was an environmental/tree hugger weirdo that was obsessed with earthly/pagan theology so it all makes sense, look up the ARYAN roots of the nazis and iranians)

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2009, 05:05:19 AM »
I don't care about america's immigrant history, that's all irrelevant now.  even whites that looked just like everyone else and spoke english (but weren't of english decent) caught more *&^* than they could handle when they got off the ship.  Irish got it, Germans got it, Italians got it... eskimos got pushed around, native americans did obviously, slaves got it, japanese got some during world war two.... it was never right BUT people really had to conform back then.  If they didn't they'd be run off or maybe even killed.  Now people born here can be as liberal as they want to be, and foreigners don't even have to speak english...... it's discrimination in some places to not meet their lingual needs.  Immigration needs to stop right now, period.  I definitely don't want any middle eastern nutjobs or european metrosexual leftists here, we have enough crazies and bent-wrist crybabies.

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2009, 07:00:59 AM »
SWquib;
  Last two posts..pretty much right on.. I never viewed Hitler as a bonafide tree-hugger though. I knew he was into the occult (madame Blavatsky) in a big way, as was most of the Nazi hierarchy. Closely similar to today's New agers.
     He was of course, into ethnic cleansing by elimination of certain peoples (Nietsche & Sanger).. Margaret Sanger's book "Eugenics" was the blueprint for Hitler's "final solution"..Sanger went on to be the birth mother of Planned Parenthood and legalized abortion; so in many ways the Nazis shared progenitors with the pro-abortion addicts.

  Nowdays we hear rumblings of the old Nietzschean philosophy of eliminating the weak. It starts with the "death panels" part of the new Govt health bill.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2009, 07:45:46 AM »
you know the sad thing is that the people who are against the whole thing now are the ones that'll support the death panels in the next decade or so if it does go through congress.  think about it, all those who say &*^% those who expect us to pull their weight and pay their bills that won't even keep them alive much longer anyways... well right now we don't want the financial drain of supporting a no win cause.  Later on the government will be listening to that, but it won't be about money at that point.  Politics will enter into it too- affirmative action/feel good identity politics will allow some access while shunning others, the buddy system and of course actual health/age issues.  then the crybabies will be wondering how their government safety net turned into a noose.... because they opened the door to it and the angry people that got caught up in it slammed the door on them.  I know that if the feds take over healthcare I'll be all about making sure the bums and leeches go before I do.  of course the liberals don't see that though.. they're not seeing how the bell-curve will change when one extreme is changed... it changes the whole continuum.  stupid people.  man i just got back from church and I'm feeling evil already... can this nation just stop the welfare and let those people starve to death so they can't vote anymore---I support that as a eugenic principle (social darwinism)

new age is the nice parts of the evil machine of deconstructionism... none of it makes any coherent sense to people who don't know what happens when society loses purpose and the citizens pursue all that crap (big gov "saves the day" by making us all safe, by making us all slaves to the collective.. assuming everyone acts by the rules and that the puppeteers aren't corrupt, which they are but the people/proletariats that vote for it are too stupid to know better----- a system of fairness that is not abstract in ideology but in implementation- corrupt lying people who wish to be the elite in a totalitarian society choose to manipulate the masses by directing the most desperate elements of society to corrupt the entire system for the temporary betterment of said bottom feeders- I love it)    :o

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2009, 07:53:20 AM »
hey ironglow- right-wing extremists are supposed to be like nazi/white supremacists according to the liberals... so being a missouri/german blood guy.. does that make me an aryan/white supremacist, or a muslim/iranian/shiite/jihadist, or a skinhead, or a patriot, or a domestic terrorist in hiding and just waiting to use my guns on something other than targets and deer... man I'm confused (no I'm not).  I wonder who watching that crap on television realizes that our government is pushing all those crazy left ideas while fighting others pushing a different bastard child of aryan ideals (our progressive movement stole most of the nazis ideals, and iran.. well they went from aryan mysticism to mohammed but not much changed) to come out on top of the world and if our own people fight against the kulturkampf- then those patriotic citizens are the aryan/skinhead/white evil men even though the "right-wing" has little to nothing to do with those ideals (but we DO own guns and have a militant streak, so we're scary to the sheep like electorate and "robber barons" in congress.. maybe me and you should push the robber baron thing on congress and see how far that goes- tea parties are stupid but people went for that like free cocaine... I hate congress)

I'm done with this thread for a bit, it's de-churchifying me now

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« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2009, 12:30:08 PM »
 The "deconstructionists" as you call them, just don't know what they are doing to themselves. They seem to be striving for anarchy and Nihilism...but don't have any idea what it will be like if they are successful in arriving there..
  Kierkegaard called this process"levelling" and the result would be a lifeless lkife for most.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2009, 02:35:32 PM »
I'm still partially "churchified" right now... how about you iron... I'll do some hatin' later on.  Looks like I did a good job the last two posts though!  :D  I'm feeling peaceful from going to a non denominational christian church earlier (the point of the thread is "peaceful religion" right)

cleaning my loading bench and all made me feel better too, maybe the mujadeen and taliban should just clean their ammo caches and oil their ak's to feel better?  they don't load to my knowledge.

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« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2009, 02:40:41 PM »
Here is an article of America bending over backward for the religion of peace.

 Hey, Want a Mosque Parking Lot Next to Your House? The Arrogance of Islam, Cowardice of the West
Imagine this:
 You’ve worked hard all of your life.  You’ve managed to pay off your house in an upwardly mobile Detroit area suburb, and you plan to live there for the rest of it.  But, suddenly, Muslims buy the home next door and turn it into a mosque, right smack-dab in the middle of your neighborhood and next door to you.  But, wait, it gets worse, the mosque members want to transform the front lawn and driveway into a parking lot.  And soon, very soon, they will insist of broadcasting the Muslim call to prayer at all hours of the day and night.  And you will have to see a crowded parking lot next door and hear the call to prayer falsely claiming that allah is the only god.
Well, if you are Bent and Renee Boving, ages 89 and 81, respectively, and the other residents of a Northville, Michigan neighborhood, you don’t have to imagine it.  It’s a nightmare that’s very real.
Sadly, and predictably, Northville Township authorities are cowering and are set to to grant the Muslims and their mosque extraordinary variances to do all of this.  It’s happening all over America.  When neighbors oppose these monstrosities in the middle of their neighborhoods, as Warren, Michigan residents did several years ago, the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the Justice Department breathe down officials’ necks and warn that opposing the mosques and refusing to grant them special privileges will result in federal lawsuits forcing it down their throats.
Mohammad Usman wants Muslims in Novi and the Northville communities to have a convenient place to pray.
Many Muslims in the area travel to Canton or Farmington Hills if they want to attend daily prayers.
So sad, too bad. So, they have to drive 15 minutes. My heart bleeds. That’s the price of faith. It’s not supposed to be easy . . . unless it’s Islam and the religion is trying to assert itself on everyone else.
But the location of the Meadowbrook Islamic Center, at 41885 Eight Mile in Northville Township, has some neighbors complaining. The center, which is not yet in use, is in a residential area and occupies a single-family home. Some neighbors also are opposed to the center’s plans to create a parking lot on the front lawn.
“We’re being invaded,” said Bent Boving, 89, from his home next door. “I’m vigorously opposed to this.”
Boving and his wife, Renee Boving, 81, said their opposition isn’t based on religion. Instead, the couple say they foresee problems from traffic, vehicle pollution and noise.
“We have no problems with diversity,” Renee Boving said.
Neighbor Steve McGuirk, 53, agreed. “The biggest thing is they want to take the whole front yard up with a parking lot.”
Jennifer Frey, community development director for Northville Township, said about 150 residents attended a Nov. 18 meeting of the Zoning Board of Appeals on the issue.
At the meeting, the center, which bought the home in June, was requesting two variances. One would allow it to build a 42-space parking lot; the other deals with the house’s proximity to the road.
Normally, such a parking lot would have to be behind the building, but township officials said there is not enough room. The zoning board, which asked that the center consider a smaller parking lot, tabled action until Dec. 16.
Uh, yeah, there usually isn’t enough room for a parking lot on a lot for a home in the middle of a residential neighborhood. That’s not rocket science. Here’s an idea for these arrogant Muslims: try buying a lot in an area zoned for business, instead of asserting your religion–and a parking lot–on a quiet residential neighborhood.
Usman said some days prayers could draw as many as 100 people. Usman, a township resident since 1996 who chairs the center’s Board of Trustees, said the impact on the lives of those nearby would be minimal.
Minimal? You live in a quiet middle-class neighborhood and, five times a day, you could have 100 cars parked all over the front lawn, next door, and on your street? That’s “minimal”? Hate to see what “maximal” would be. And it won’t just be 100 cars. The traffic will grow and more and more Muslims come to this mosque, this country, and are born into high birth-rate Muslim families.
“We are very peaceful people,” he said. “We will not do anything to do harm to the community.”
He dismissed concerns from neighbors that the center would institute the Muslim call to prayer, a public broadcast of which had been a contentious issue at mosques in Hamtramck and elsewhere.
“Peaceful”?  Notice that he “dismissed” the concerns about the call to prayer, but didn’t commit that the mosque won’t do it. And, ultimately, it certainly will. I hope the people in this neighborhood enjoy waking up as early as 4:30 in the morning and, at the same time, staying up as late as 11:00 p.m. The Bovings will hear it loud and clear, since they live right next door.


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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2009, 02:47:01 PM »
easier still for the town leaders to just say no and to get some land to build a real mosque instead of running people out of their towns. mofos

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2009, 06:37:20 AM »
that was garbage... why would anyone trash any legitimate religion like that?  looks like israeli television is about as trashy as our own... only I think most our garbage stays on mtv instead of the news

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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 06:38:52 AM »
Was that black moslems in many cases brought over in ships and forced to build the old southern aristocracy, and forced to adopt judaeo-Christianity..?  Just wondering...I don't think they were all pagan animalists. But do put me down on record for the 1ooth time,,,I don't think moslems should be allowed into this country, along with 100 other world cast offs, especially if the Global War on Terra is real.

..TM7

TM7, Actually, they were tribal animists happily living their lives in the continent when Arab slavers came across the Red Sea and forced them into slavery or killed them outright. At least that's the African version of that story ... Africans hate Arabs, not Americans, for slavery. I've only been to 5 African countries along the Red Sea, but that's the consistent cultural history. Many are Muslims now, but for example the Somalis refuse to go to Mecca/Medina for the Hajj because of it, so they have their own pilgrimage. If you go twice on theirs it counts as one Hajj to the peninsula. On the other side, the Wahabis of Saudi now consider the Hajj, and Mecca/Medina, a descent into the lower rungs of Islam, rubbing shoulders with the filthy mongrels of the faith, and only endure it out of tradition.

All, in the mid-90's the precursor to CAIR and other Muslim-American organizations very clearly articulated their 100 year plan to turn America into a Muslim theocracy. It involves 2 types of Islam, the first is soft, easy, peaceful and digestible, geared to be acceptable to us. The second is true Islam revealed once they have over 50% of the voting/political power in the country. Placing Mosques in neighborhoods is strategic. You will move, or you will stay and eventually become calloused to its presence, and may even find yourself becoming psuedo-supportive as guilt ridden liberals often can be. Your kids will intermarry into the faith; you'll vote for Muslim candidates because they stand for conservative values and they own the pizzeria up the street. Last time I heard that they consider their time table accelerated now, and many are concerned that its outstripping their ability to be effective - burning too bright too fast - so thats why they practice a controlled silence through the process. And make sure to tell the cameras that they're worried about local discrimination every time there's a Muslim attack on Americans somewhere.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 06:50:12 AM »
which is why them and the liberal assistants need to be busted right now.  my bigger question is how violent will america become when jews and muslims fight through money and theocracy to remain in control?  it WAS in the middle east, but now it's moving over here.  this conflict will not remain in iraq, afghanistan, or anywhere else much longer.  we need to fight the kulturkampf, but how?

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 07:07:02 AM »
My goodness it didn't take long for this to be blamed on the Jews.

Kinda a recuring antisemetic theme HUH? Polishing up that act for the BBQ.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 03:54:19 PM »
My goodness it didn't take long for this to be blamed on the Jews.

Kinda a recuring antisemetic theme HUH? Polishing up that act for the BBQ.

YEP. At least it wasn't Bush's fault this time. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2009, 03:58:56 PM »
My goodness it didn't take long for this to be blamed on the Jews.

Kinda a recuring antisemetic theme HUH? Polishing up that act for the BBQ.



Yeah, come on. What is the REAL threat?

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2009, 06:34:55 PM »
I'm just referencing the rich/elite people that are actually motivated by religion/race combos billy... I'm not typing up the recipe for your barbecue, just asking what's on it?  rye bread and hummus!  :D

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2009, 01:08:15 AM »
Gonna have ribs, brisket, pork shoulder, chicken, bbq beans, cole slaw and bud light.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2009, 02:34:07 AM »
I see where the Godless ones murdered over 100 of their own again today, + 100+ wounded. Nothing like all that love. The Godless killing the Godless, rapidly cleansing their gene pool. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2009, 06:58:37 PM »
what did they do now powderman.. suicide/car bomb?

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 02:59:00 AM »
More coordinated bombs in Baghdad, targeting civilians of course. Nothing like soft targets that can't fight back. Godless, subhuman trash doing satans bidding. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:(
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

Only half the people leave an abortion clinic alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM
What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
I learned everything about islam I need to know on 9-11-01.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDqmy1cSqgo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_u9kieqGppE&feature=related
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2009, 05:31:54 AM »
TM many of the higher tech weapons are coming from Iran. The low tech and large devices are artillary shell wired with detonators. Your silly questioning to make it sound like a more ominous presence is working here is so darn silly. I really am wondering if you intentionally try to make things sound so conspiritorial or really believe this kindergarten boogy man garbage yourself. I know that in your fantacy world that you don't want to believe this, but the simplest explaination is most often the correct one.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 06:23:06 AM »
TM7, good questions.

The targeting of noncombatants, civilians has little to do with the U.S. It's sectarian violence. Sophisticated explosives have been traced to Shia (Iran) manufacture and used on Sunni targets. The war in Iraq is an opportunity for Shia to dominate.

Some suicide bombers have been found to have been coerced and remote detonators were used. A boy on a bicycle was sent against on of our patrols. The rear gunner noticed he was weeping before he blew up, investigation found a 900mhz phone in what was left. They used him to probe the capability of our jamming system so he was detonated at a harmless distance to the vehicle. His sister was being held hostage by insurgents as we later rectified. It is very common for Sunni insurgents to threaten Sunni Iraqis in order to gain their cooperation.

Large munitions (500# bombs for example) are old Iran Iraq war stockpile maintained by the Iraqi Army until 2003. Typically without the appropriate detonators so they rig it with plastique. They can be of Soviet, US, or any manufacture given Iraqs history. I was hit by an IED comprised of 4 155 howitzer rounds and a propane tank detonated with a small amount of c4, 1.2km of copper filament and a motorcycle battery.

Afghanistan has the same situation only it's Taliban vs Northern Alliance, and they have stockpiles from decades of regional conflict.

My point here is this is not current manufacture or technology. The weapons are most often incomplete and ineffective. All this suggests that the simplest answer is the right answer. These are smart men using the means at their disposal independent of a larger scheme.

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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2009, 08:16:47 AM »
You didn't answer this but I'm wondering how you figure certain neocon figures (unguarded as well) have escaped personal attacks, and various arab client states likewise escape attacks...?


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Because the war on the ground is not monolithically targeting Coalition Forces or US Politics. Its a war of opportunity, the tribes are manipulating for the best advantage when its over, Al Qaeda is calling Muslims to arms against the coalition, Sunni are fighting Shia, and Shia are fighting Sunni for control of the geography and resources of Iraq and Afghanistan. Ancient hatreds have been given opportunity to vent - the neighbor who didn't return your lawn mower you can now turn over to the insurgents as a collaborator, or turn over to the US for the weapons cache in his yard. Of course you have one too, for sale to the highest bidder. Its a multi-faceted brawl, not regimented lines across a grassy field.

Origins of munitions is well documented, if you dig harder you'll find the data. And tribalists have been targeting their own populations for millenia - no news there. Why not target neo-cons or wealthy Arab states? One day the dust is going to settle long enough for local tribes to profit somehow, and the only way they can do that is to preserve a marketplace for their goods. Mohammed was a merchant - we would do well to never forget that.
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Re: The religion of peace
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2009, 09:09:36 AM »
SoTM dig your "digging" on Iranian weapons take you to Iraq? You must have a transporter in your mothers basement. Or did you find this information on the same page as your 6000 watt death ray that runs on AA alkaline batteries?  :D  ;D :D ;D

TM I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but everything you read on the internet isn't true!
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