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Offline Ethan

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New Air Gun?
« on: December 06, 2009, 01:04:28 PM »
I want a new air gun that is a good price that is 22. cal.That you do not have to pump and have good reveiws.I have read Gamo's do not get good reviews and have bad scopes.So can you guys help me?? ???
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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2009, 09:26:14 PM »
 What's the most you're wanting to spend?

 I assume you want a spring gun since you're looking at Gamo, but there are also fairly inexpensive C02 rifles (no pumping) out there.

 Also, you can often get a better scope for less $$$ if you buy it separate from the gun.
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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 09:58:12 AM »
I am looking to spend less then 200$ And a gun that has good reviews and i can carry alot to control pests
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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 08:31:16 PM »
 These are pretty good...

http://www.archerairguns.com/QB78-Deluxe-Chinese-Air-Rifle-p/ibqb78d.htm

 Or one of these (you can also get the "SE" model with a steel breech and scope for a little more)...

http://www.crosman.com/airguns/rifles/co2/2260

 $200 isn't going to buy a very good spring gun & scope, but some of the Chinese ones aren't too bad if you're not picky about fit and finish.
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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 05:41:02 AM »
The RWS 34 in 177 caliber, would fit this bill, check out the reviews on it, and I should mention thatn this gun has been on the market since it was designed back in the eighties, not the best, but but then a Beeman R9 is now around 500 bucks.....  You can get it in 22 caliber also.

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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2009, 12:25:58 PM »
QB78 deluxe from Archer airguns.
The one I have is one of the nicest air guns
I have ever had. Fit and finish are as good or better
as airguns I have that cost several times as much as this
one did. (I have found no flaws whatsoever). It is
more accurate than all of them.  Power is adequate
in .22. Everyone that has used mine now wants one.
I am so impressed with this gun that I am thinking
of becoming a distributor of them
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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 08:42:31 AM »
you need to prioritize your wants and needs.

the QB78 is a good beginner level CO2 rifle that you can use as a launching platform for an all out, full blown HPA rifle...IF you want to go farther with it.

an air rifle is like a powder-burner, or any other pursuit you chose, for that matter...the more you pay, the better the quality (under normal conditions) you get...



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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 06:24:54 PM »
I passed beginner level close to 40 years ago. ;)
I still have the first pellet rifle (A Sheridan) I ever bought. but,
Shoulders and elbows not being what they used to be,
it can be difficult to charge it up. I have Springers also,
Gamo and Beeman but I give away my position having to cock
them right before I shoot. I am looking at one of the gas piston
rifles that it will not hurt to leave cocked though. This is why
I choose to go with the CO2 powered QB78, no pumping and 
it does not spook the critter I am intent on perforating with it
when I cock it. I am not just singing the praises of the QB78
because I have one, It is truely an excellent little rifle.
and in my opinion would be a bargain at twice the price they
sell for. http://www.compasseco.com now has a PCP
version of the QB78 that is considerably more powerful.
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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2010, 04:52:02 PM »
I got a beeman that i got for about $125 and it came with 2 barrels, a .177, and a .22 and this things is great and i find for me the .22 cal is more acurate. you said u wanted to use it for pest controle well i took this coon with 1 shot at about 35 yrds and this opossum at about 25 yrds.

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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 11:16:24 PM »
The Tech Force TF 89 in .22 caliber has good reviews and costs $159.95.

http://www.compasseco.com/tech-force-contender-series-caliber-p-1713.html

Review:

http://www.airgunweb.com/2009/03/compassecos-tf-89-aka-hammerin-hank/

From what I understand, after the review was written fiber optic sights became a standard feature.




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Re: New Air Gun?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 11:35:11 PM »
but but then a Beeman R9 is now around 500 bucks.....

That sounds expensive.  But is it?

I didn't pay anywhere near $500.00 for either of my R-9's, but if mine were stolen or destroyed or something, and I needed to replace them, I wouldn't hesitate to pay whatever the going rate is to replace them, though I could probably live without the .177 and stick with the .20.

Sure,  there are lower cost alternatives.  But if a buyer can manage to save $250.00 for a Gamo or whatever in "X" amount of time, it would seem that with a little goal-oriented patience, that same buyer could manage to scrape up the R-9's price of admission in time.  It only hurts to pay for it once and after it is paid for, there is no "coulda woulda shoulda" attached to the ownership experience -just total satisfaction, over decades of use.  It might take a little longer to scrimp and save for, but an R-9 is well and truly worth the wait.

The beauty of the R-9 isn't just found in its build quality, accuracy, or power to weight ratio.  It is also manifested in servicability.  Seals and mainsprings are wear items that need periodic replacement.  The parts are comparitively cheap from Beeman and the R-9 platfrom is easy to service.

As with other forms of shooting sport, hardware isn't really where your shooting hobby money goes if you're any kind of volume shooter.  I easily spend well over the cost of a new R-9 on the pellets that I shoot out of mine each year.  It's pretty much been the same for me for the last 30+ years and will continue to be for the forseable future.  But I only had to buy my R-9s once.

Here's why quality that bites to save for pays in the long run.

When I was a teen, I wanted a Beeman / FWB 124D in the worst possible way.  I STILL wouldn't mind having one as I think they're the M-98 Mauser of airgunning -a classic.  So I set a goal and worked and scrimped and saved and sacraficed for years until I had the money together and more.  By then, the new flagship of the Beeman sporting air rifle lineup was the then-new R-1.  Not only was it the flattest shooting, hardest hitting springer on the market at the time, but it was also available in the exciting, "new" .20 caliber.

That was one expensive piece of equimpment when it was new.  And since I had waited so long to get in to adult airgunning, I ordered mine in .20 with a host of options that drove up the price even further.

I shot the daylights out of the thing for 25 years or so.  It remains one of the few items I've bought that didn't just meet my expectations, but exceeded them.  I never regretted buying it.  When I decided to sell it, that rifle proved as good as money in the bank because I took exceptional care of it, kept it maintained, and sold it for MORE than I paid for it.  Ultimately, it didn't really cost me anything.  I used the proceeds of the sale of the R-1 to buy both of my R-9's.

I was looking for a .20 Deluxe when a guy came in to a shop with an NIB .177 Goldfinger that he won at a Safari Club dinner raffle and wanted to sell.  I offered him $225.00 and he cheerfully handed the thing over to me.  Six months later, I bought my .20 Deluxe with select wood, select barrel angle, and Beeman tune for $357.00.

Now that new ones are pushing the $500.00 mark, I am pretty sure that if I wanted to sell, I might get my money back on the .20 if I was patient enough to wait for the right buyer.  I wouldn't have ANY trouble getting out of the .177 for what it cost me to get in to it.  I'm not anxious to sell, however, and don't expect that I ever will be.  I feel the same way about these that I felt about the R-1.  In fact, I like them better because they're a little more managable in the field, being lighter and less bulky, but still having plenty of power and range for the hunting that I do with them.

Save for a new one.  You won't reget it.  While you're doing that, if a sweet deal on a used one comes along, you'll be in a position to snag it.  Personally, I think a clean, used R-9 would be more satisfying to own and shoot than just about any break-barrel RWS model -probably an obvious fact, since I don't shoot RWSs but shoot my .20 R-9 several times a week.

With reasonable care, as long as parts are available for it somewhere, my kids will be shooting them long after I've gone off to take the proverbial dirt nap.

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