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Peak anti-freeze supports the Anti's..Need Help!!!
« on: October 22, 2003, 04:43:28 PM »
Peak Antifreeze Support Anti-Hunters
From: SCI - SE Michigan Bowhunters Chapter
10-21-03

Peak Antifreeze Support Anti-Hunters

A member of our chapter recently bought four gallons of Peak Antifreeze. It was a good deal offering a $1 per gallon rebate. Later on, while filling out the rebate form he noticed you could either request the $4 rebate, or donate it to the American Humane Association (AHA). Upon checking out the AHA web site, here are some of the things they had to say about hunting:

*Bear baiting is an unsporting, unethical, and barbaric practice used by trophy hunters to lure bears to food to shoot them point-blank.

*As many animal advocates know, the vast majority of animals that die in these barbaric traps are used for luxury fur garments.

*American Humane opposes the hunting of any living creature for fun, trophy, or for simple sport. American Humane believes that sport hunting is a form of exploitation of animals for the entertainment of the hunter and is contrary to the values of compassion and respect for all life that inform American Humane's mission.

*American Humane considers sport hunting a violation of the inherent integrity of animals and disruptive of the natural balance of the environment through human manipulation, and calls for positive action to be taken to prevent such cruelties

Needless to say, the anti-freeze was returned to the store immediately, with an explanation to the store manager. Not only that, but this member had the good sense to call Edward Powderly (Brand Manager, PEAK Performance Products) to express his displeasure with the company's promotion.

First off, Mr. Powderly claimed that the AHA did not have a stance against hunting and that they were being confused with the HSUS... ...Then he was read the quotes from the AHA website.

Next, Mr. Powderly claimed that although they might have an anti-hunting stance that they are not actively involved in putting a stop to hunting...

...Then the numerous legislative anti-hunting bills that the AHA is actively lobbying for (per their website) was pointed out to him.

Next, Mr. Powderly claimed that the money generated from his promotion was going to be a very small amount compared to the AHA's total budget...

...To which the point was made very clear that the principle of even one penny of a hunter's money going to fund such activities is entirely unacceptable and that this practice will not be tolerated by America's sportsmen.

At that point, and running out of lame excuses, Mr. Powderly became rather smug, at one point stating that if a small group of hunters don't want to buy Peak antifreeze, that's fine... buy another brand... many of them are made by Peak and we wouldn't even know we were buying it.

It was suggested to Mr. Powderly that they be more careful who they are giving money to. He stated that this promotion was only going to last about another month and a half (until December), as if that were a good thing. Let's make it a month and a half Mr. Powderly and Peak antifreeze will not forget!

ACTION:

Peak is evidently not aware that there are millions of hunters across the country, and that we are indeed a segment of the population that requires some respect when it comes to "politically correct" promotions. We will not tolerate having our discretional expense money being turned over to those who aim to put an end to our traditional, family-oriented, hunting lifestyle, and to North America's extremely successful wildlife management system, which is primarily funded by sportsman. We need to hit them hard! Let's assure this type of "mistake" doesn't happen again. Please forward this message to all outdoor sports enthusiast on your list.

To contact Peak go to: http://www.peakantifreeze.com/email.htm

An extended list of products produced under other names by Peak include the following: (see http://www.peakantifreeze.com )

1. Advance Antifreeze
2. All Weather Antifreeze
3. Final Charge Global Extended Life
4. Fleet Charge Antifreeze
5. Fleet Charge Pre-Mixed
6. Full Force Antifreeze
7. Peak Antifreeze
8. Peak Ready Use
9. Peak Extended Life
10. Peak RV & Marine Antifreeze
11. Peak Windshield Wash
12. Peak Ultra Melt
13. Sierra Antifreeze

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Added to this Alert by Moderator:

Peak Parent company:

Old World Industries, Inc. Company Profile:

Old World Industries is taking a progressive lead in the production of chemicals. The company is the #2 US antifreeze maker (after Honeywell, maker of Prestone) and the only vertically integrated antifreeze producer. Old World's antifreezes include Peak and Sierra (the latter is marketed to parents and pet owners as a safer alternative antifreeze), as well as private labels. Old World also makes deicers, pickup bed liners (Herculiner), windshield wiper blades (SmartBlade), and spark plugs (SplitFire). The company's chemicals unit is a leading maker of ethylene glycol (used in antifreeze), ethylene oxide, and liquid caustic soda. Chairman and CEO Tom Hurvis and Riaz Waraich own Old World.

Contact Information:
Address: 4065 Commercial Ave.
Northbrook, IL 60062
Phone: 847-559-2000
Fax: 847-559-2266

Key People:
• Chairman and CEO: J. Thomas Hurvis
• President: James (Jim) Bryan
• CFO: Brian Schweigel

Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/47/47092.html

Here's a letter that was on another forum that I sent to them to show them my disapproval...Feel free to copy and paste..


Gentlemen,

It has recently come to my attention that Peak Antifreeze is supporting the anti-hunting organization, the American Humane Association (AHA), through an optional donated rebate offer. As a concerned hunter and sportsman, I will not be buying your products until you cease supporting this organization. The principle of even one penny of a hunter's money going to fund such an organization is entirely unacceptable and this practice will not go unnoticed or be tolerated by America's sportsmen.

Please consider ceasing all support for the AHA immediately. Until you stop the support, I intend to inform everyone I can in America's hunting community of your poor decision.

Sincerely,






JP

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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2003, 06:08:25 PM »
E-mail sent- Come on gentlemen lets let them know we will not help them !! No more Peak poducts in my home or vehicles until this ends!!! :x
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2003, 03:54:08 AM »
I'm lost here. If I ask for  my rebate (just like a tax refund, it's my money) then none goes to AHA. Only if I choose do they get a penny. I say buy them out from all the stores and get all the rebates and tell them it will be donated to the NRA.

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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2003, 04:56:14 AM »
Old Cane,  It doesn't sound like you're lost, infact you put a pretty good twist on it.  But the point is still that Peak set up a way (optional) to raise funds for an anti-hunting group.  Had they also set up a way to raise funds for other organizations (NRA, DU, etc.) it would be a different story.

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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2003, 06:38:40 AM »
If we buy the Peak product and take our  $4 Rebate to forward on to the NRA, then Peak still makes their profit.  I would rather not float my money through Peak, back to me and then on to the NRA.  Rather, I would prefer to just send it to the NRA, taking Peak along with their profits out of the picture.  Then I plan to forward my thoughts about Peaks marketing to them along with a picture of Prestone being added to my vehicles.  Possibly a range picture of some Peak containers from the recycling center being used as targets would be a more appropriate use of their product.  :eek:
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2003, 07:37:27 AM »
Well, I think part of my sarcasm was lost, part of it noticed. I for one will not buy any of their products again knowing this. I think it's sad to raise money that for a bunch of liars and PETA supporters. I really don't believe in rebates to begin with but that's another story.

Anyway, I do get it or rather won't get it. Just trying to be funny. I'll keep trying.

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2003, 11:36:22 AM »
I am on board, my email has been sent and my shopping lists altered.

Thanks for the heads up, this is important for all of us to do!

Fred :agree:
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2003, 12:53:18 AM »
I sent an e-mail yesterday morning from work.  When I got home and checked my home mail, I already had a response from Peak saying they were in the process of breaking ties with the group mentioned.  They must be feeling the heat on this one.

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2003, 05:14:47 AM »
I also sent an email. letting them know That I use to use the antifreeze in my hunting truck wife's Van and my ATV but I will no longer.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2003, 05:35:43 AM »
Emails are worthless in these cases. They get deleted in a milli-second.

Instead, get out your ball-point and send a note inside an envelope (it has to be opened by someone) to the rebate address.
Make it short and to the point, with absolutely NO profanity!
If you can, address your envelopes using a printer.
Black Arial font, nothing un-businesslike.

Tell the company you are sending a copy to the NRA-ILA, along with a donation, and informing your hunting AND FISHING colleagues and local clubs of Peak's ACTIVE anti-hunting/fishing efforts. Citing some of the terrorist-like tactics of the animal-rights groups might be in order, if you don't embelish.

AND You might include a copy to the auto-parts stores and maybe some oil-change outfits or mechanic's in your area. They may bebhunters/fishermen too, and they need to know about the products they sell.

Hey does that sound like too much work? I've already begun.


As someone who used to work for a legislator, I can tell you--
---Letters get results, emails get deleted.

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2003, 06:48:53 AM »
Looks like they don't get deleted if previous poster got a reply.

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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2003, 10:20:21 AM »
E-mail sent

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2003, 11:09:40 AM »
I also received a response:




It has recently come to our attention that the hunting community is upset
about one of our company’s products, Sierra antifreeze, which has a
sponsorship with the American Humane Association (AHA).  Our intention with
getting involved with the AHA several years ago, was to bring awareness to
families of pets and children about a safer antifreeze, Sierra, due to it’s
less toxic nature vs. conventional ethylene glycol based antifreeze.  Every
year approximately 100,000 pets/animals die from ingesting conventional
antifreeze off of garage floors and driveways.  The objective was awareness
of a safer solution to this, not to alienate the hunting and outdoorsman
community. Unknown to us, the AHA has apparently taken some active stances
against certain rights of hunters.  Upon hearing this, we have made a
decision to sever our sponsorship with the AHA.   Thank you for bringing
this to our attention and we hope you’ll continue to support Old World
Industries products like Sierra antifreeze and other PEAK performance
products.

Sincerely,
Sierra Antifreeze
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2003, 02:33:34 PM »
email sent.  i assured them that they did the right thing in taking the corrective measure.   thanks for the post!

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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2003, 11:25:53 AM »
I got the same e-mail from PEAK. I thought it was very positive and assures me e-mails don't always get deleted.
Rick :D

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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2003, 01:16:07 PM »
I have yet to get an email back maybe I will sometime monday.

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« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2003, 05:21:45 PM »
Here is the resaponse I got back from Peak!   :grin:  I guess they got the piont!!! :D  Who said the pen is mightyer then the sword!!! :grin:

It has recently come to our attention that the hunting community is upset
about one of our company’s products, Sierra antifreeze, which has a
sponsorship with the American Humane Association (AHA).  Our intention with
getting involved with the AHA several years ago, was to bring awareness to
families of pets and children about a safer antifreeze, Sierra, due to it’s
less toxic nature vs. conventional ethylene glycol based antifreeze.  Every
year approximately 100,000 pets/animals die from ingesting conventional
antifreeze off of garage floors and driveways.  The objective was awareness
of a safer solution to this, not to alienate the hunting and outdoorsman
community. Unknown to us, the AHA has apparently taken some active stances
against certain rights of hunters.  Upon hearing this, we have made a
decision to sever our sponsorship with the AHA.   Thank you for bringing
this to our attention and we hope you’ll continue to support Old World
Industries products like Sierra antifreeze and other PEAK performance
products.

Sincerely,
Sierra Antifreeze
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2003, 12:19:35 PM »
Here is the e-mail I sent them.  I feel if we take the time to complain about something we should also take the time to say thanks when they take action that we approve of.  In the future they might take how strongly we feel about our hunting rights into consideration.

Pete

E-Mail to  Peak Antifreeze

"I read about your initial support of the American Humane Association and how after getting a negative response from sportsmen around the country you severed your ties with the AMA.  

I want to thank you for taking the stance you did.  Your reason for your sponsorship is understandable considering the fact that your Sierra antifreeze is less toxic to pets.  

I for one will except your explanation and consider the fact that you took action when you found out the true nature of the AMA when I purchase antifreeze in the future.

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my fellow sportsmen and for having the courage to admit a mistake.  I would hope that your action will forestall any boycott of your products.

P.H. Ersland
Madison, Wisconsin"
Pete

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