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I'm getting a little tired of this.
« on: December 09, 2009, 02:47:08 AM »
Once again, yesterday, Obama was in the news blaming the previous administration for the current economic mess, leaving it to his administration to clean up afterward. It takes a lot of nerve to say something like that today after all of the crazy spending and reckless incompetent mismanagement of the past year.
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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 02:56:20 AM »
The opinion polls are finally catching up to this.  He has the lowest poll numbers since FDR when they first started doing the polls.

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 03:01:05 AM »
All I can think is if the heats to high get out the kitchen .
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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2009, 03:15:30 AM »
Just being true to himself. gypsyman
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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2009, 03:39:10 AM »
Blaming Bush can only go so far.  It has gotten worse under his year.  He has no clue how to stimulate the economy.  Tax cuts have always done it since Kennedy. 

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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2009, 03:49:11 AM »
 i read somewhere thatThe economists (spelling ?) have said that it was really clintion that started the recession not bush ! but that bush just didnt help things much ! but the dummycrats whont put the blame where it really belongs !

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 04:01:35 AM »
There's plenty of blame to go around. Both Bush and Clinton supported making loans to people who couldn't afford it. Obama continues the tradition.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 04:06:18 AM »
Started in 1998 by Clinton.  50% of all foreclosures are Black families.  Clinton wanted the poor to be able to own homes, so no down payments, ARM's started, loaned money on the whole home value, not 80 or 90%, etc.  Good goal, but the poor have to learn how to budget before they can own a home.  Bush allowed it to continue, although his administratiion warned congress to do something about it through some type of banking regulation 6 times, but it fell on death ears.  

Side issue, my grandparents never had a mortgage, and never had a credit card, never owed anyone anything.  They rented, worked in cotton mills, and saved, bought some land, built a home on the land one room at a time, used an outhouse until the 60's.  I remember they started with one big room 18'x18', added an 8'x18' on the back, then added a 12'x18' on the front, then added two 10' rooms the 38' length on the side.  Heated with a wood stove, which they cooked on.  Used an out house until the 8'x18' was divided and part was made into a bathroom. Never owed a dime.  

My parents, borrowed to buy a house, and cars, but always had at least one car paid for before buying another, but never used credit cards.  

My generation went credit card crazy, now my kids are even worse with credit.  I owe no credit cards, but have a mortgage.  Vehicles are paid for.  

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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 04:16:30 AM »
Once again, yesterday, Obama was in the news blaming the previous administration for the current economic mess, leaving it to his administration to clean up afterward. It takes a lot of nerve to say something like that today after all of the crazy spending and reckless incompetent mismanagement of the past year.
Well it's true.

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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 04:23:14 AM »
The hypocrite in the White House voted for all of the things that have caused economic slow downs--that is, when he even bothered to vote at all.  He also voted for all of the profligate spending that went on during the previous administration--except that which was to support the troops in the war against terrorists.

People should remember that it is the Congress that controls the purse strings and the Dumbycrats have controlled Congress now for nearly three years.  Blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong is about all the Dumbycrats have and they will continue as long as the lame-stream media doesn't call them on it.
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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2009, 04:28:08 AM »
Obamuslim is an idiot.
He sounds like a little school kid trying to shift the blame on some one else.
I don't rember Reagon ever whinning about (It's Carters fault!)
It doesn't matter who's fault it was, Regan seen it needed fixed and did something.
The only thing that matters is IT's YOUR JOB TO FIX IT!!!
And obamuslim seems to only be making matters worse.

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2009, 04:34:21 AM »
MS,

You're right. It is true to a degree, but all his actions since then have been opposite of what was needed, and have greatly aggravated the situation.

The magnitude of this is such that Bush's mess will be forgotten and Obama will own it. I am not particularly happy about this, because Bush deserves his fair share, but that's not the way history works.
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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2009, 04:50:32 AM »
There's plenty of blame to go around. Both Bush and Clinton supported making loans to people who couldn't afford it. Obama continues the tradition.

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2009, 04:59:47 AM »
That's the irritating thing. These guys just keep doing stuff that obviously doesn't work and can't work. But they keep doing it anyway.
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2009, 05:03:42 AM »
MS,



The magnitude of this is such that Bush's mess will be forgotten  
Tell that to the parents of the soldiers that died in Iraq. A war that we didn't  have to start.

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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2009, 05:07:34 AM »
He wasn't elected to blame others it was to change and fix it anything else is excuses .
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2009, 06:31:32 AM »
MS,

The Iraq war was one of the most valuable and successful wars of all time. It stopped the escalations of terrorist attacks that occurred during the Clinton years and sent an unambiguous message to all Arab dictatorships that they can be removed from power quickly. Considering the value, very few US soldiers have died or been wounded. Compare it to, say, the Korean war, and the numbers are sobering.
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2009, 07:28:24 AM »
MS,

The Iraq war was one of the most valuable and successful wars of all time. It stopped the escalations of terrorist attacks that occurred during the Clinton years and sent an unambiguous message to all Arab dictatorships that they can be removed from power quickly. Considering the value, very few US soldiers have died or been wounded. Compare it to, say, the Korean war, and the numbers are sobering.
The war isn't over in Iraq.

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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2009, 07:33:32 AM »
Effectively, it is, and it has been for quite some time. The situation has stabilized, troops have been removed. The objectives were met.
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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2009, 07:46:18 AM »
yes sir, thats all they do when any democrate has an interview the first words from their mouth are "we inheirited this problem" or "this was caused by Bush".

On and on over and over. They sure overlook a few choice items such as 0% down and 110% financeing..Chris Todd and fat boy Frank. They are right Bush has a hand in it also they all do.

So I say quit crying like little babies and be a man for change. I want to know what you are going to do that will change it and make it better.

So far all we get is things that will make it worse and now we see they want to do another stimulus. By a little creative accounting they want to take Tarp Funds and divert to States that are going under. Illinois(credit rating downgraded just yesterday) and California (destined to fall flat soon) and the list goes on.

Obama is a damn fool and the people now see him for what he is. the stupid idiots around him in their little world refuse to accept that anyone can see it.

He is one term they are out next time except in hard core left wing places. he and his agenda will do great damage to us as a nation they already have.

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« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2009, 07:50:30 AM »
Fool no ! crazy like a fox maybe
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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2009, 07:54:30 AM »
There's plenty of blame to go around. Both Bush and Clinton supported making loans to people who couldn't afford it. Obama continues the tradition.

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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2009, 10:29:40 AM »
Guys it's glaringly obvious that most of you still don't get it. You still are operating on the assumption the folks in DC really do have our best interests at heart but that they just really don't understand what to do or are too stupid to see the effect their actions are having. STOP THINKING THAT WAY!  :o

"Almost" to a man/woman they are in the pocket of super rich elitist who's interest they are serving. They are fully aware of what they are doing to the rest of us and don't give a damn. They are doing it on purpose cuz that's what their masters in the cabal have told them to do and they realize that if they like their jobs and want to get richer themselves they must do as told. Until you clearly understand that and start operating from that mindset you are a part of the problem not a part of the solution. Forget parties, forget that they want to do right. THEY DON'T! Look at their voting records and if it's wrong then vote them the hell out.

They are not stupid, they really do get it. They understand perfectly well what they are doing and what impact it is having on America and just don't care. They are thinking only of themselves and how they can service their super rich masters. Until enough folks wake up and realize this and start acting on it they will continue to do it TO US not FOR US. I doubt there are 50 folks in congress both house and senate combined who should remain. The rest MUST be replaced.

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Re: I'm getting a little tired of this.
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2009, 10:58:19 AM »
GB, with all due respect, why in the world would the this super rich cabal that you always refer to, want the US to fail?  It sure won't put any money in their pockets if the US goes bankrupt.  It also won't put any money in their pockets if nobody in the country can buy whatever goods they are selling.  It just makes no sense.
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« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2009, 11:14:31 AM »
GB, with all due respect, why in the world would the this super rich cabal that you always refer to, want the US to fail?  It sure won't put any money in their pockets if the US goes bankrupt.  It also won't put any money in their pockets if nobody in the country can buy whatever goods they are selling.  It just makes no sense.
It's about power they got the money. They get off by controlling people.

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« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2009, 11:21:34 AM »
GB, with all due respect, why in the world would the this super rich cabal that you always refer to, want the US to fail?  It sure won't put any money in their pockets if the US goes bankrupt.  It also won't put any money in their pockets if nobody in the country can buy whatever goods they are selling.  It just makes no sense.

so  they  can  buy it  at  forclosure  prices

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« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2009, 11:34:49 AM »
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It's about power they got the money. They get off by controlling people.

Yep, that's it.  They don't mind living in a third world country.   ::)
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« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2009, 11:36:28 AM »
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so  they  can  buy it  at  forclosure  prices

wake  up

Not too likely.  Banks are going nuts because they can't get rid of their REO's.  Nice guess though.   ::)
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« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2009, 04:03:12 PM »
I do believe Bush would have needed a congress to correct the problem.  Correct?

I have a hard time not including congress, since they hold the power to even have any legislation to sign.  The people in Congress now, were in Congress then.  If you don't change that....it won't make a hoot of difference who is the big bad president now will it? 

The reason we are in so deep is because most people are looking for a magic person to change 535 people, instead of changing 535 people that can change the magic person any way they want.

Same group is still there now as was under Bush, same rules from Frank and Dodd...lend that stim money out we printed to anyone who wants it, not one thing has changed.

I don't think there were any rules/laws on this lending thing....some pressure maybe ($$$)....but many banks did not do this, and they are OK.  Nobody made em do it.  Regulations were relaxed in the banks of their own free will....not law.  If I am wrong about this correct me...but I can find no law that forced a bank to lend money that they knew could not be paid back.



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« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2009, 04:28:38 PM »
 In the big scheme of things, he is not even a suit. Obama is just a shirt.