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Offline Questor

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Dumb question, but....
« on: October 23, 2003, 07:39:59 AM »
Why don't we use poisoned arrows for bowhunting? I mean aside from being illegal in places. It seems like a practical idea.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2003, 07:55:40 AM »
:-D

we wouldn't be so dang worried about speed and penetration! Just give a deer a little stick with some poison arrow frog juice and you cancel christmas! Ha ha!

Good topic!
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2003, 12:18:59 PM »
It would seem to me that anything potent enough to kill a deer-sized animal quickly enough to ensure harvest would be a terrible safety hazard to have around, let alone stick on the business end of an arrow. Also there would be the issue of handling and consumption of the animal carcass. Something that potent could pose a real threat if it got into a scratch or wound on the dressing hunter or even entering the bloodstream of a consumer. Also, what impact might this poison have on the scavengers that feed on the disposed parts of the carcass? Not that scavengers are our top concern, but any time you start messing around with top-end predators and scavengers, there are bound to be implications for the ecosystem. All-in-all, it just seems like the risks of using poison for game hunting far outweighs any potential benefits, at least to my way of thinking.

And I won't even begin to consider the can of worms this issue might open with the "Bambi-ized" general public and the anti-hunting crowd; a headache we hunters could all do without. :?
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2003, 06:07:34 AM »
There are native south american tribes that use the poison from the "poison arrow and poison dart frogs" to poison game that they consume. I will look into how the poison is neutralized for consumption. I think is with cooking. This would be a neat technique to master though. I am down to learn (legally though)
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2003, 05:41:20 PM »
There was a time when you could use "pod" points in this country, I believe it was the early 70's...don't hold me on that.  Thankfully, that ended rather quickly, as there were inherent dangers involved...like self poisoning.  A well placed broadhead through both lungs will kill more quickly and leave a better trail than any poison.
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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2003, 07:24:01 AM »
that is teh thing.
You are going to be chasing tracks adn not blood with  a poison arrow unless it is getting good penetration in the boiler room.... then why would you need the poison? This is a fun topic though
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2003, 12:35:18 PM »
I agree with cknight98, I wouldnt want to take a chance that it could harm me :!:
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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2003, 02:35:27 AM »
The poison from the poison dart frog will last up to a year on the dart and still be lethal :eek:  There are tribes in Columbia that still use this technique with blow guns.
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2003, 05:12:42 PM »
At one point the pod used succocyclyine chloride or something similar, dissipated after death.  We found it wasn't needed, just a sharp broadhead and good arrow placement... :D
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2003, 03:11:53 PM »
I really can't believe this was posted.

If you can't use a sharp broadhead to get the job done, sit in the house and just watch it on TV.
If you can't work em in close & git em in yo face with their orange landing gear down, don't bother takin the safety off!!!!!!!

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2003, 06:04:49 PM »
I thought it was a rather amusing question as opposed to an actual consideration.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2003, 03:00:44 AM »
It was rather amusing....good question :D
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