worst group you have ever seen with a handi

[rem700-3]

I saw on another forum 2 guys arguing about handi groups, 1 said that he had 2 factory 243's that wont shoot 10 inch groups at 100 yards, ( I personally dont belive it either)  the other guy is calling his bluff that he will bet $1000 if they are factory and have someone shooting them that can shoot, there is no they wont shoot less than 10 inches 3 shots, unless they have been "worked on" in the wrong direction.  I know its Net B.S.   but Im just curious,  anyone ever see one that wouldnt shoot less than 10 inchs at 100.  My worst one was about 5 1/2, it now shoots good groups pretty regular.

[wreckhog]

Handi no. Maybe a third of my Marlin levers can be gotten to shoot 12" at 25 yards though.

[Mac11700]

I saw on another forum 2 guys arguing about handi groups, 1 said that he had 2 factory 243's that wont shoot 10 inch groups at 100 yards, ( I personally dont belive it either)  the other guy is calling his bluff that he will bet $1000 if they are factory and have someone shooting them that can shoot, there is no they wont shoot less than 10 inches 3 shots, unless they have been "worked on" in the wrong direction.  I know it Net B.S.   but Im just curious,  anyone ever see one that wouldnt shoot less than 10 inchs at 100.  My worst one was about 5 1/2, it now shoots 1/2 pretty consistanly.

Nope..nothing like 10"...I've seen some 5-6" groups out of one..but that was with a bad barrel..and a whole bunch of straight stock ones doing 2-3" groups..but they all were improved to great shooters

Mac

[TxGun]

I know it's Net B.S.

Highly likely. I have 1 Handi rifle, a standard .223. Granted, not much of a sample size, but it shoots 2" consistently and MOA when I'm having a good day. Only mod is an O-ring on the forearm screw. I'd love to shoot the guy's .243 for him, because I'm unconvinced it's the gun.

[quickdtoo]

All it takes is a little oil on the latch/shelf or bad lock up to get big groups, it's also easy to fix unless it was poorly fitted to begin with which does happen. A little ignorance about Handis goes a long way unfortunately. Referring folks to the Handi Basics 101 and FAQs will get them going in the right direction tho. 

Tim

[watsisname]

I recently purchased a 25-06 that is just like new. The barrel lug and latch were covered with a thick grease, like wheel bearing grease. I cleaned it all up but haven't tried it out, it has just been too cold and windy but I am pretty confident it will be a good shooter. Previous owner sold it because it wasn't accurate enough...

[Hank in Indiana]

2 of the 4 I've had would not shoot less than 10". Sent one back and they put a new barrel on. It shot better but wasn't a keeper.

[possum6]

I believe it. When I first got my .223 superlight I was sick, I shoot at 16x16 Redfield precision target's and it was spraying factory load's all over the paper. I was ready to give it away. Then I found this sight about a year ago, still don't know why I left, read everything I could about the Handi and asked all kind's of question's believe it or not now it's a shooter. They say a Handi isn't a bench gun I beg to differ

[grumps]

My 223 SB2-2S3, I can only describe it as one of the posts about 223 on here described theirs.  Mine made a great pattern for a shotgun but a group it just isn't.  Shots all over the paper never grouping at all.  Some might have beat a 10" one.  It was large enough that I didn't bother to measure it.  Its been boxed and put away, and not sure what its future may be.

[quickdtoo]

My 223 SB2-2S3, I can only describe it as one of the posts about 223 on here described theirs.  Mine made a great pattern for a shotgun but a group it just isn't.  Shots all over the paper never grouping at all.  Some might have beat a 10" one.  It was large enough that I didn't bother to measure it.  Its been boxed and put away, and not sure what its future may be.

If you mean an SB2-SY3 Superlight, you aren't going to get great groups shooting it hot, the Superlights just heat up too fast and accuracy goes away, keep the barrel cool and it will shoot well with the right load. 

Tim

[HickoryNut]

I saw on another forum 2 guys arguing about handi groups, 1 said that he had 2 factory 243's that wont shoot 10 inch groups at 100 yards, ( I personally dont belive it either)  the other guy is calling his bluff that he will bet $1000 if they are factory and have someone shooting them that can shoot, there is no they wont shoot less than 10 inches 3 shots, unless they have been "worked on" in the wrong direction.  I know its Net B.S.   but Im just curious,  anyone ever see one that wouldnt shoot less than 10 inchs at 100.  My worst one was about 5 1/2, it now shoots 1/2 pretty consistanly.

Hey I know that site as well.  I think it is getting out of hand and funny.  Let a Handi be a Handi and have fun with them.  They will certainly bring home meat with a little TLC.

[Spanky]

Handi no. Maybe a third of my Marlin levers can be gotten to shoot 12" at 25 yards though.

12" at 25 yds.??
Try opening your eyes next time you shoot 'em.
Marlin levers are good shooting guns.



Spanky

[mitch132]

Even my old style .004" overbore .444 Marlin barrel would shoot an 8" group @ 100 yards. I find 10" unlikely, but there have been some real stinkers leave the H&R factory. 

[shvlhead.45]

I thinks they have a loose scope mount, rings, or scope.  When I have that kind of pattern being shot by one of my Handi Rifles I start over on my scope mounting procedures.  Have found a loose mount once, found loose rings once and had a bad scope once and I thought I'd be careful mounting everything.  From my limited experience, 3-4 inch groups are usually fore arm bedding issues.

shvlhead.45

[Swampman]

The .243s seem very troublesome but they normally shoot better than 10" groups.  All my Handis have been very accurate.

[wreckhog]

Handi no. Maybe a third of my Marlin levers can be gotten to shoot 12" at 25 yards though.

12" at 25 yds.??
Try opening your eyes next time you shoot 'em.
Marlin levers are good shooting guns.



Spanky

The best was and is a Marlin 1894 in .44 Mag. I shot at a hand drawn red circle on an 8.5x11 piece of paper at 25 yards. Untouched. The paper, not the circle. Emptied the mag at it as I was testing for function too. Walked up 12-15 yards away. Finally hit paper. Keyholes though. 8-10 yards, got them all on paper, all keyholes. I don't believe that I have shot the gun since.

[mechanic]

Handi no. Maybe a third of my Marlin levers can be gotten to shoot 12" at 25 yards though.

12" at 25 yds.??
Try opening your eyes next time you shoot 'em.
Marlin levers are good shooting guns.



Spanky

The best was and is a Marlin 1894 in .44 Mag. I shot at a hand drawn red circle on an 8.5x11 piece of paper at 25 yards. Untouched. The paper, not the circle. Emptied the mag at it as I was testing for function too. Walked up 12-15 yards away. Finally hit paper. Keyholes though. 8-10 yards, got them all on paper, all keyholes. I don't believe that I have shot the gun since.

Had one that did the same.  Luckily I found someone who wanted it badly....even after I told him of the problem.

[243_shooter]

when i first got my .243 superlight i had some factory ammo with me and couldn't get it on target at 100 yds, found this site, tinkered with it a bit, started loading myself, and it is now the most accurate gun i own....

[spikehorn]

I had a superlight 223 that I described as only being able to shoot minute of barn, But in truth I seem to remember that it would at least keep them inside an 8" shoot-n-c at 100 yards. No matter what I did with the gun the groups would not get better. I sold it to a guy a friend of mine works with and haven't had any complaints come back to me so maybe he did something with it that I missed.