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Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« on: December 12, 2009, 08:13:14 AM »
Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution:

"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State"

Obama violated US law by accepting the Nobel prize. Just another example of how this president will ignore the laws that govern his actions. Obviously, our founding fathers wanted to protect the US citizens from foriegn influence. The fact that the Nobel panel selected Obama for this was a direct act to influence his decision process as it relates to the ME wars. While personally do not support these wars, this influence has had an impact as Obama deliberated for months before responding to his commanders request for more troops. In the process, how troops were under more risk during this period of foriegn influence.

Had this law been enforced, the Nobel panel would have had to pull back thier nomination of him or they never would have nominated him to begin with.

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 08:21:20 AM »
I don't see a nobel prize as a title of nobility, but I do see his conflict of interests as a "citizen of the world" and a "globalist" threatening to the rest of us.  sucking up to muslims for the holidays, revisionist history about muslims and blacks, bowing to foreign sheiks/sultans/whatevers and getting prizes from all over but here in the USA.  None of it that I've followed up on made him an earl or duke but have made him a douche  :D

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2009, 08:46:12 AM »
Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution:

"No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present", Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State

Obama violated US law by accepting the Nobel prize. Just another example of how this president will ignore the laws that govern his actions. Obviously, our founding fathers wanted to protect the US citizens from foriegn influence. The fact that the Nobel panel selected Obama for this was a direct act to influence his decision process as it relates to the ME wars. While personally do not support these wars, this influence has had an impact as Obama deliberated for months before responding to his commanders request for more troops. In the process, how troops were under more risk during this period of foriegn influence.

Had this law been enforced, the Nobel panel would have had to pull back thier nomination of him or they never would have nominated him to begin with.

I think the issue here is the $10 million Swedish Kronar ($1.4 million USD) that goes along with the award.  News reports indicate he may donate the money to a charity - as of yet unnamed - but if at this point he has accepted the award along with the monetary present...
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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2009, 08:58:56 AM »
I wasn't aware that the recipients get paid to get a butt-kissing.  Are you saying that the award is actually money-laundering from some globalists?  It would make sense....  ???

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2009, 09:25:37 AM »
he will  donate  it  to  something  like  acorn  or  seiu

its  just  another  wealth  redistribution  thing

yes-sir   arrow-fat  the  terrorist palistinian got  it  too

no  telling  what other  worthless  POS  got  it too
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2009, 09:32:01 AM »
in the name of peace! 

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2009, 09:35:33 AM »
While I do not see the acceptance of the prize as a violation of US law, as accepting the title of the Prize.
I do see it as a way that a forgien country, agency, or group is trying to alter US policy by giving the prize in hopes that the President will Earn it and the 1.4 million Dollar Prize, even though BHO says he is going to give it to unnamed charities, it could be seen as a bribe and that is against US Law.  "High crimes and misdemeanors clause" comes to mind if the prize money hits his bank account. Not to mention the value of the gold Prize.

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2009, 09:49:40 AM »
the bribery, money-laundering or whatever it is should be confiscated.  I bet if he donates it he can still claim if for a tax exemption and that means he does still profit.  any institution that he donates to is really him co-operating with a foreign body.  he'll get away with it though, because of the charity work it'll be pc and untouchable to the media. 

all the while he's now gonna be exempted from paying over $1,000,000 in taxes, while trying to raise taxes through the roof for common citizens.  hypocrisy you can throw up about (truer than change you can believe in).  mcwoodduck- what gold?

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2009, 09:58:34 AM »
who  is  going  to  confiscate it??

william  holder?.....


that  money  is  chump  change  compared  to the  damage  obama  has  done
when drugs are outlawed only out laws will have drugs
DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO STOP A DEMOCRAT
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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2009, 11:34:22 AM »
the Nobel prize is the most prestigace award that can be bestowed upon anyone. I clearly think this would be covered under this section of the constitution. The queen and prince of denmark were there to show the nobility level of this award.
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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 11:59:59 AM »
Ok ok I get it.  It's corrupt!  But if being corrupt was actually a problem then we could dig a whole lot deeper than some BS publicity stunt like this.  If Tim Geithner can be appointed head of the IRS after his little stunt then there's obviously not too much to worry about.

"At the Senate confirmation hearings, it was revealed that Geithner had not paid $35,000 in self-employment taxes for several years,[28] even though he had acknowledged his obligation to do so, and had filed a request for, and received, a payment for half the taxes owed. The failure to pay self-employment taxes, in part due to the way his employer reported his wages which was not in accordance with tax law, was noted during a 2006 audit by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), in which Geithner was assessed additional taxes of $14,847 for the 2003 and 2004 tax years. Geithner also failed to pay the self-employment taxes for the 2001 and 2002 tax years (for which the statute of limitations had expired) until after Obama expressed his intent to nominate Geithner to be Secretary of Treasury.[29] He also deducted the cost of his children's sleep-away camp as a dependent care expense, when only expenses for day care are eligible for the deduction.[30] Geithner subsequently paid the IRS the additional taxes owed,[31] and was charged $15,000 interest, but was not fined for late payment.[32] As President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Geithner annually completed an ethics statement noting any taxes due or unpaid, along with any other obligations. Geithner's completed statement did not surface during confirmation hearings.

In a statement to the Senate panel considering his nomination, Geithner called the tax issues "careless," "avoidable" and "unintentional" errors, and he said he wanted to "apologize to the committee for putting you in the position of having to spend so much time on these issues."[31] Geithner testified that he used TurboTax to prepare his own return and that the tax errors are his own responsibility.[33] This statement is in conflict with statements by the Obama campaign that Geithner was advised by his accountant that he did not owe the taxes.[34] The Washington Post quoted a tax expert who said that TurboTax has not been programmed to handle self-employment taxes when the user identifies himself as being employed.[35] Geithner said at the hearing that he was always under the impression that he was an employee, not a self-employed contractor,[35] while he served as director of the Policy Development and Review Department of the IMF.[5] Geithner comments are contradicted by the Senate report that showed he was not only informed of his status, but that he actively applied for the allowance.[36]


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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2009, 01:51:11 PM »
you make a good point oscar

cabin I didn't watch the video or follow the issue real close, I just heard about it and rolled my eyes  ::)  I didn't know of any connections to the nobility.  what about that sultan/sheik guy giving him the big saudi chain?  that one bothered me- probably not just a chain but I was too disgusted to even bring it up, how about now?  how many foreign awards has he recieved now?

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2009, 02:01:39 PM »
you make a good point oscar

cabin I didn't watch the video or follow the issue real close, I just heard about it and rolled my eyes  ::)  I didn't know of any connections to the nobility.  what about that sultan/sheik guy giving him the big saudi chain?  that one bothered me- probably not just a chain but I was too disgusted to even bring it up, how about now?  how many foreign awards has he recieved now?

I would not put the chain in the same category. It was more of a gift as I understand but could be wrong. The Nobel Peace prize is clearly an award of nobility.
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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2009, 02:04:29 PM »
maybe not... the way he bowed to the saudi prince made me sick though.  I never even thought about the title thing when I saw it in the paper- I just looked in disgust and looked away.


anyways... can you elaborate on the denmark royalty (danish?)

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2009, 02:35:37 PM »
He is actually the third seated president to win the award. Theodore Roosevelt in 1906 and Woodrow Wilson in 1919.

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2009, 04:39:37 PM »
i can not remember excactly when it was done but they passed a law that made presidents and others donate gifts over a certain amount. if he follows that law by donation or whatever the Title that he recieved will be no violation of law. many presidents have recieved various honors awards and titles i guess you could say over the years.

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2009, 04:44:23 PM »
teddy had a real imperialist/progressive streak (roosevelt corollary, taking over the seas by naval might BEFORE the cold war even)

wilson... isn't he the "benevolent dictator"?  does that ring a bell brian?  I'm gonna go look that up real quick, I might be thinking of someone else from the "progressive" party

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 04:46:13 PM »
nevermind, FDR.... I need to brush up on this stuff, I'm getting alzheimeri-ish  ???

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 05:51:30 PM »
i used the same type of arguments as geithner results were a little different i had to pay and a heavy penalty to boot. when i was first refuseing the sheriff came by nailed a notice of tax sale on my front door. i decided to pay.

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2009, 06:06:50 PM »
Just reading a paper dated December 15, 1920 about President Wilson winning the Nobel Prize. He recieved $40,000 as well.  What was really interesting is the fact that it was not on the front page it was a short column on page 4. Quite a difference from Obama ..

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2009, 06:09:19 PM »
well back then socialism wasn't a recognized concept within american culture, and the military/industrial complex was just stretching it's muscles.  people wouldn't have been watching with the "been there, done that" mentality we have now (I have it from reading, I didn't see it though.  I can only speculate how YOU and others feel)

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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2009, 03:24:26 AM »
Compared to all the other outrageous crap that Osama is getting away with, receiving a ridiculous prize is small potatoes.  Nonetheless, I do believe that this type of thing should have another look.  What would people think if a Muslim potentate decided to award a cash prize to a sitting potus for doing nothing?  At some point, you have to wonder whose payroll your President is on.
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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2009, 07:50:35 AM »
our tax dollars... but the votes of the people who leech and steal put him in there, not us.  that means we can't get him out unless they're upset too.  I don't think they will be until the welfare state goes bankrupt and we are back in the dark ages.

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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2009, 08:06:48 AM »
He violated the Constitution the 2nd day in office by funding foreign abortions with taxpayer money, I don't think he is worried about any violation, nor is he concerned about repercussions.
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Re: Obama Violates US Law by Accepting Nobel Prize
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2009, 08:16:30 AM »
foreign abortions?  what did he do nomosendero?


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