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Dictator build
« on: December 13, 2009, 02:27:03 PM »

It's getting close to New Years and I decided that I would finish my Dictator build. This is actually early for me. To decide to finish a project before it's time to shoot it. I usually have to watch out for the wet paint when it's time to shoot. I might even get to shoot this one before New Years. Better fly high Santa!!



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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 02:50:37 PM »
Does it have a chamber ? ???

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eta where did you get that carriage ?
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« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 03:25:59 PM »

It has a chamber 1"wide X 1 1/2" beep made it with a ball end mill. In the white sacks behind it is the ammo. Metal cans from slim fast just need to fill with concrete. The carriage is proportioned to a 8" Dictator. I left off the fancy hooks on the bottom this will be a shooter and I wanted it to slide easily. I still have to work out the elevation adjustment. And some finishing looks, the carriage was started last year.

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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 04:11:42 PM »
Well then if the welds are good and the material is good as well ????

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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2009, 04:48:51 PM »
Good welds? Ha Ha Are you looking at that cracker box (Lincoln) in the back ground? That is a chair I got three more of them around the shop. The cores have been removed and sold for scrap. The welder is behind me when I took the pic. Miller shop master 300amp. The red paint on the barrel (drop) indicates that it is 4130 heat treated and normalized to a RC of 35-40. The breach plug is also 4130 Threaded to 6tpi acme and has a interference fit. The barrel had to be heated before you could screw the breach in. Then reheated to 600deg F and a root pass of 11018 rod then 7018 then a cover pass of mig to make it easer to turn round. And let cool in lime to reduce stress. It was still warm 18 hours later.  ;D

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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2009, 05:12:43 PM »
Okay, gotta ask why such a small tube on such a big base!

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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 05:30:01 PM »
Well I have a bigger drop but it is 4' long and needs to be cut. But it wont fit in my lathe or the steady rest is to small. It's 8" in diameter and the steady rest only holds 7". So it has to go down the road to get cut and built. Or tell I make a bigger steady rest. And I wanted to shoot it now. And what better excuse. Now I have to make a new carriage to fit the barrel and a barrel to fit the carriage.   :)

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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 05:36:56 PM »
Yea no kiddin , it sounds like you know what you are doing !

why would you put such an effort on an ill fitting carriage? I mean NO disrespect but it is a dictor in name only . IMHO  :o

That should get the police circling your block  on New Years for sure ! , real sure if you live near me cause they are on the look out around here for some reason??????  !!!!!! ;D  (see tracy kunze)

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ETA Never mind ! The above post was written while I was typing . ;D
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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 02:26:09 AM »
E-O-D,
Your project's looking good, you do fine work. Are those trunnion cradles made of aluminum, or steel?
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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 07:49:07 AM »
There steel I'm a purity good welder but welding aluminum to steel would be a neat trick. I think you can explosively weld the two together. But I'm not sure of what would be left. ;D

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:03:04 AM »
Eyes Of Death,
I thought that you might attach them to the cheeks with bolts to give more of an impression of the originals.

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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 01:27:26 PM »
that link just open an empty page for me  ???
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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 01:48:13 PM »
It works fine for me.  Try this one:

http://www.hmdb.org/Photos/20/Photo20703o.jpg

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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 01:53:53 PM »
 :D..either link worked great here in the States, must be a hitch in the overseas connection, Dan...somebody cut the cable...
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« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 01:58:32 PM »
now they must have cut both cables   ;D
sorry guys bot none of them open more then an empty page for me  :'(
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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2009, 02:08:49 PM »
This should work


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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2009, 02:36:20 PM »
Dan,

The picture is huge 4.1 megs, you system probably timed out before it fully down loaded.  Had the same problem when I was in SA with large downloads.

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« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2009, 04:00:08 PM »
yes , this time I can see it   ;D

maybe time to sell the house and move to USA
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Re: Dictator build
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2009, 12:32:05 PM »
Does anyone have a drawing of this mortar barrel?
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2009, 01:12:46 PM »
Does anyone have a drawing of this mortar barrel?
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The dictator?

Yes I have some drawings

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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2009, 01:34:10 PM »
are they copy right protected or can you post them here ??
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2009, 02:10:18 PM »
One set is copyrighted.

The other set is of the 8 inch Model 1861 from Antique Ordnance publishers http://lassengunsmithing.com/AOPCatalog.htm

This drawing is on a 11" x 17" format and is just too big to scan an post here

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2009, 02:35:13 PM »
Sell and come on over, Dan!
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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2009, 02:43:11 PM »
sometimes I wish I could  ;D
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2009, 04:24:43 PM »
A Swedish accent smoothie over here !  ;D

Our gals are hard enough to meet without having to compete wit you ! 8)

I could put you up for awhile if you are willing ?? ;)

Wow ! Hands on instruction with a Master Caster !

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