Author Topic: Auto Ord 1911???? (Read 1832 times)

drdougrx · « **on:** December 14, 2009, 03:12:07 AM »

Any opinions???

Saw a brand new one at the shop and it retailed for about $540, it's GI all the way. Wondering if I should buy it and "play" with it or just get a new SW1911 (#108285-plain jane blue with Novak sites, etc.) I'm thinking the cost will be about the same when I'm done.

williamlayton · « **Reply #1 on:** December 15, 2009, 05:03:37 AM »

Auto-Ord comes with some mixed reviews, from my reading. I don't really want to post a negative. I have held them and they feel good. I don't have a clue about reliability---but---it seems to be good and the fit and finsish is good.
I would think that it would be a good gun--unless you get a lemon--and--all of them have put out afew of those.
The good thing is is an established ompany and the ones I have looked at are steel. Nothing that cannot be corrected if there is a problem.
Blessings

rawhidekid · « **Reply #2 on:** December 15, 2009, 09:31:38 AM »

I have heard good reviews of the Auto Ordinance, but if you think you will end up with the same cost for a S&W and it already has all the things you want, go with the S&W.

Mikey · « **Reply #3 on:** December 15, 2009, 02:36:24 PM »

Doug: get the Smith and Wesson; shoot the snot outta it and let us know how much you like it....

jcn59 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 15, 2009, 03:36:39 PM »

I have an older Auto-Ord.. Made in USA and a darn good piece. Shoots anything I put in it & is as accurate as my Colt 1911 or better.

Are some of the newer, problematic ones imported?

williamlayton · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2009, 02:16:42 AM »

I will show you how dumb I am.
I thought they were made in USA.
Somebody tell us the truth.
Blessings

drdougrx · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2009, 04:20:05 AM »

Yeah......I think I'll stay the with the venerable Massachusetts company......don't know why but I'm leaning toward the blue version...stainless is all the rage, but,,,I kinda like blue. I also saw a post by Bigeasy who had stag grips on his blued 1911....kinda imprinted on my brain........small imprint as it is.....

rawhidekid · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2009, 11:29:23 AM »

I agree nothing looks better on blue than stag, I like buffalo horn on stainless, just can't afford it.

drdougrx · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2009, 11:58:21 AM »

Well....I'll probably use stag like.....

jimster · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2009, 12:21:12 PM »

I will show you how dumb I am.
I thought they were made in USA.
Somebody tell us the truth.
Blessings

Kahr Arms has Auto Ord now, and yes, they are made in the USA. At least that was what I understood it to be. I think I read Auto Ord. makes them under direction of kahr Arms. Someone I'm sure knows more than I on this.

Noreaster · « **Reply #10 on:** December 16, 2009, 01:36:43 PM »

I can't speak for the Auto Ord, but my friend loves his S&W. Also guys who shoot allot more than I do swear by Smith & Wesson customer service. I hear S&W bends over backwards for it's customers.

Hey Dr Doug don't you live in MA? Those are probably the only two 1911's that are MA complient!

williamlayton · « **Reply #11 on:** December 16, 2009, 09:24:12 PM »

If you like stag you are my friend.
I love stag--and all my favorite girlfriends wear them. I get them from Bill Jennings in Wy.
I can give you the address if you need it. They are on a Colt gov., a Colt LW Commander and will be on my new BBQ gun that will go to the engraver, David Wade Harris, after the first of the year.
There is this girl Esmerelda that makes som soft porn grips and I have some of them on the Norinco.
I won't say you are correct or wrong---S&W does come from a good linage.
Good conversation.
Blessings

drdougrx · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2009, 07:54:56 AM »

Hey Nor...yep..SW or Auto Ord.

Will....please PM me the contact info on the stag grips...but...one question...do they crack with heavy use???

rawhidekid · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2009, 10:59:01 AM »

I could use that PM also, thanks and God Bless.

williamlayton · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2009, 11:37:39 AM »

For all:
wrj@bresnan.net
custom elk antler handgun grips---buffalo, wyoming
They have held up for me.
Blessings

Flint · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2009, 02:31:19 PM »

I picked up a new Auto-Ord GI 1911A1 for $450. It looks good and shoots as well as my 70 Series Gold Cup. As long as it is new enough to be a Kahr, the quality is no longer spotty, I understand.

1911crazy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:24:48 PM »

My new Auto-Ordnance Army WW2 copy 1911a1 has been flawless for 500rds now right out of the box. We (the four of us) have been hammering it non stop at the local range trying to make it fail and it hasn't. Its my very first brand new 1911a1 to function / cycle right out of the box. I've had three others in the past that were brand new that didn't.(other name brands)

I think with its 4140 steel frame it has to be one of the best affordable and highest quality 1911's out there right now. And its manufactured right here in the USA. My hats off to the auto ordnance people for making such a quality pistol that functions right out of the box.

These were only $389 a few years back and i wish i purchased more of them too.

My new auto ordnance army ww2 copy is as reliable and dependable as my norinco is but the only thing is the slide is tighter on my new AO because its brand new. Otherwise they cycle the same.

drdougrx · « **Reply #17 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:27:32 PM »

Thanks 19!

1911crazy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 11, 2010, 08:56:58 AM »

Its manufactured in Mass right here in the USA. I contacted them when my new AO Army WW2 copy hit the first 500rds flawlessly with wolf ammo. I'm very surprised that a company here in the USA can manufacture a brand new 1911 that functions correctly right out of the box. Colt and springer couldn't do it with some of there new guns i had.

I hope the auto ordnance company keeps up there awesome workmanship and quality for many years ahead. I may go for another one soon if my dealer still has a stack of them.

I orginally wanted a cheap/affordable/low budget shooter/beater 1911 when i found the new AO and its much better than that. My search continues.

TOGO · « **Reply #19 on:** January 20, 2010, 06:11:54 AM »

I owned an AO while in the Corps in Cali in the 80's, it was a good shooter at the time, I sold it because I needed the cash. After they were bought out Karr Arms I bought another, this one is a lemon, cases get hung up in the chamber after a couple mags, when it is working the cases are ejecting straight up and onto my head and the last one alway nails me in the forehead between my eyes. I sent it back to AO because of the tight chamber, I got it back and it still does the same thing. I put jewelers roughs on a 20 gauge mop and polished the chamber and ramp feed and it still gives me the same results. I have pretty much gave up on. $:-\$

Beans · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2010, 09:18:20 PM »

I have several Colts and a RIA.

I just purchased a NIB AO (Kahr) that was maufactured in 2003. It has been setting on a shelf somewhere.

Took it to the range last week. 14 rounds standing two handed at 15 yards gave me a 2 1/2 inch groups with handloads. Could have done better but those GI sights and my 66 years old eyes do they best they can. It shot better then the one the USMC issued me in 1961

No problems with FTF or FTE with 300 rds down the pipe.

williamlayton · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2010, 10:48:55 PM »

I do, OH HOW I DO, understand the old eyes and the years.
Put a set of Heinies on them--Heinies are old ey friendly----IMO.
I like fixed sights.
Blessings

Bigeasy · « **Reply #22 on:** January 25, 2010, 12:32:40 AM »

Good source for Sambar Stag grip material, if you want to make your own. Not to difficult on a 1911. I prefer the color / grain of Sambar compared to Elk or Deer.

http://www.elenhunting.com/

Larry

1911crazy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 25, 2010, 03:40:36 AM »

Quote from: williamlayton on January 24, 2010, 10:48:55 PM

I do, OH HOW I DO, understand the old eyes and the years.
Put a set of Heinies on them--Heinies are old ey friendly----IMO.
I like fixed sights.
Blessings

I have problems shooting with the little sights too but i just look down the barrel and point it at what i want to hit at 25yds it works with all handguns with 5" barrels and under.

1911crazy · « **Reply #24 on:** January 25, 2010, 03:43:24 AM »

Quote from: TOGO on January 20, 2010, 06:11:54 AM

I owned an AO while in the Corps in Cali in the 80's, it was a good shooter at the time, I sold it because I needed the cash. After they were bought out Karr Arms I bought another, this one is a lemon, cases get hung up in the chamber after a couple mags, when it is working the cases are ejecting straight up and onto my head and the last one alway nails me in the forehead between my eyes. I sent it back to AO because of the tight chamber, I got it back and it still does the same thing. I put jewelers roughs on a 20 gauge mop and polished the chamber and ramp feed and it still gives me the same results. I have pretty much gave up on. $:-\$

Check the extractor setting it may need some tweeking to get it right. Is this the newer AO army ww2 copy 1911a1 or the older AO 1911. Some of the older ones had problems.

1911crazy · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2010, 03:46:42 AM »

I been jones'n for a 1911a1 in stainless but AO doesn't offer many choices in there line up. But there sister company Thompson does offer a stainless 1911 in 45acp with all the bells and whistles. I may have to go that route for stainless.

TOGO · « **Reply #26 on:** January 28, 2010, 12:36:04 PM »

Quote from: 1911crazy on January 25, 2010, 03:43:24 AM

Quote from: TOGO on January 20, 2010, 06:11:54 AM
I owned an AO while in the Corps in Cali in the 80's, it was a good shooter at the time, I sold it because I needed the cash. After they were bought out Karr Arms I bought another, this one is a lemon, cases get hung up in the chamber after a couple mags, when it is working the cases are ejecting straight up and onto my head and the last one alway nails me in the forehead between my eyes. I sent it back to AO because of the tight chamber, I got it back and it still does the same thing. I put jewelers roughs on a 20 gauge mop and polished the chamber and ramp feed and it still gives me the same results. I have pretty much gave up on. $:-\$

Check the extractor setting it may need some tweeking to get it right. Is this the newer AO army ww2 copy 1911a1 or the older AO 1911. Some of the older ones had problems.

Mine is the 1911A1 Deluxe model. I didn't know the extractor could be adjusted, I should just send it back to Karr but I don't think they put a whole lot of effort in repairing my gun the last time .

1911crazy · « **Reply #27 on:** January 29, 2010, 06:37:10 AM »

Mine is the 1911A1 Deluxe model. I didn't know the extractor could be adjusted, I should just send it back to Karr but I don't think they put a whole lot of effort in repairing my gun the last time .
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Do a search on the net for "1911 extractor tuning" Lots of info will come up so look at every site there's more info on tuning the whole 1911 the extractor is just one of them. Sit down with plenty of time to just read and make sure you book mark all the good info sites too.

I'm not a 1911 guru yet but i'm still learning. 19czy

I'm fighting off cabin fever by setting up my reloading equipment at the new place. Plus while working on my ammo inventory. Now i can read about tuning my 1911's too. Maybe i can get my new springer to function properly next.

1911crazy · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2010, 03:23:38 AM »

I took my series/model 90 springer apart to check the extractor and found the corners were somewhat rounded on it like they say to do. But i also found sharp edges on the rounded corners too. I took a little stone and blended in the corners and removed the sharp edges. I have two new Chip McKormic mags for it too like Mikey said to try. Its a purdy 1911a1 in black park but it stove pipes 1 rd per mag. Which is fixed now i hope. I have no clue as to what springer it is but it has the larger sights from the factory. I'm guessin its a step up from the no frills models. 19czy

Someday i would like to get an IRA, a S.A.M. and a Charles Daly 1911 just to compare them. I believe there are more low budget 1911's out there too right now. If there reliable who cares how cheap they are. At one time everyone laughed at the norinco 1911 too right? There almost double in price now.

rawhidekid · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2010, 11:31:37 PM »

I once owned a Star Mod P in .45 ACP that cost me $350, it was the best auto I ever owned and I was an idiot for ever letting it go. It consistanly out shot a friends custom Goldcup but I got the bug for something new and traded it away. Star model PD's are also a good buy if you could find the buffers they require. The Star 9's are also great buys. Have a good day 1911crazy.