differences between vari-X ll and VX ll ?

[crawford769]

what upgrades did they do when they changed the vari-X ll line to the VX ll?   im  trying to decide if a new VX ll would be worth the extra money over a used vari-X ll, and im also thinking about a VX lll.   it will either be a 4-12x40 AO or a 4.5-14x40 AO.   

[p15camborne]

The old VARI-X II is essentially the new RIFLEMAN scope.

The VARI-X II and RIFLEMAN provide 82% light transmission.  The VX-II provides 92% light transmission.

The following is from The Leupold Answer Guide

What is the difference between Rifleman and VX-I?
The Rifleman scopes are black matte finish only with a sleek, ergonomic maintube. The scopes have a fully coated lens system using a single coating of magnesium floride, providing 82% of the available light back to the eye. The adjustments are Silent Friction style hunting adjustments and each hash mark increment on the dial is 1/2 " inch moa at 100 yards. The scopes wide field of view, generous eye relief, and the rapid target acquisition of the Wide Duplex reticle will be appreciated. The scopes are rugged, reliable and waterproof, and covered by the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee. The VX-I scopes are offered in black gloss or black matte finish. The scopes have a standard multicoat lens system, providing 86% of the available light back to the eye. The adjustments are Silent micro-Friction style hunting adjustments and each hash mark increment on the dial is 1/4" inch moa at 100 yards. The scopes offer wide field of view, generous eye relief and are sold with the Standard Duplex reticle or the Wide Duplex. The scopes are rugged, reliable, waterproof and covered by the best customer protection in the industry: the Leupold Lifetime Guarantee.


Are the VX-II lens coatings better than the Vari-X II?
The VX-II scope uses Multicoat 4 coating on all the internal and external lenses, providing 92% of the light back to your eye. The Vari-X II model used magnesium fluoride coating on all the internal and external lenses, providing 82% of the light back to your eye.  

[quickdtoo]

Here's a list of differences by model from Leupold's FAQs.

Tim

http://www.leupold.com/corporate/resources/faqs/#questionFive

5. What are the major differences between scope lines?

With all of the recent changes, it can be difficult to know exactly how each product will perform. Every scope Leupold produces, including the Rifleman, is fully coated (all lenses, internal and external, are coated) and utilizes glass, coatings, and optical systems of equal or better quality than the discontinued Vari-X II’s of the past. Decreased cost associated with the Rifleman line is due to increased efficiency in our production process, not from reduced quality.

To make things easier, a brief summary of our current scope lines has been compiled including the most prominent features belonging to each.

It is important to note that every lens (internal and external) in every Leupold scope is coated, but the type of coatings will vary. “Fully multicoated” indicates that each lens in an optical system is coated with multiple layers of lens coating, such as Multicoat 4. “Fully coated” indicates that each lens is coated with a single lens coating; Leupold uses magnesium fluoride. “Standard multicoated” scopes have a combination of coated lenses and multicoated lenses.

VX-7

    * New for 2007, the VX-7 line takes full advantage of Leupold’s 100 years of experience. The VX-7 uses ¼-MOA SpeeDial adjustments which eliminate the possibility of losing adjustment covers. DiamondCoat 2 exterior lens coatings provide the highest level of scratch resistance ever offered. Xtended Twilight internal lens coatings work to optimize the wavelengths specific to twilight conditions, making the VX-7 the best low-light scope we’ve ever produced. The use of a 4-to-1 erector system provides a larger range of magnification, making this line the ultimate scope for serious hunters.

LPS

    * The LPS line uses ¼-MOA, low-profile, finger-adjustable adjustments; a fast-focus eyepiece; and our DiamondCoat lens coatings to provide incredible light transmission values with the addition of remarkable scratch resistance.

VX-L®

    * The VX-L was new for 2006, and uses ¼-MOA or 1/8-MOA adjustments depending upon model, has a fast-focus eyepiece, and utilizes an objective lens specially shaped to allow large objective scopes to be mounted in low rings. VX-L scopes use a combination of Index Matched and DiamondCoat lens coatings as well as edge-blackened lenses to produce extremely low glare and unprecedented light transmission values.

VX-III

    * The VX-III line was new for 2004, and uses ¼-MOA, low-profile, finger-adjustable adjustments and a fast-focus eyepiece. VX-III’s are fully multicoated and Index Matched to ensure that each lens has the best possible coating, producing total light transmission values higher than ever seen before.

Mark 4

    * Beginning in 2004, all tactical scopes are included in the Mark 4 category and will have the same features as past tactical models with the addition of a fast-focus eyepiece and Index Matched lenses; there are two exceptions which include the CQ/T and 3-9x40mm PR. The CQ/T has always utilized a combination of DiamondCoat (external) and Multicoat 4 (internal) lens coatings, and the 3-9x40mm PR is fully multicoated using Multicoat 4. 2003 tactical scopes typically had fully multicoated lenses utilizing Multicoat 4.

Vari-X III

    * The Vari-X III line (discontinued for 2004 with introduction of VX-III) has seen little change and is still optically the same as those produced in the 90s. Vari-X III’s utilize ¼-MOA click adjustments and are fully multicoated with Multicoat 4.

VX-II

    * The VX-II line (2003 and older) uses a combination of Vari-X III and Vari-X II (discontinued) technology. VX-II’s also utilize ¼-MOA click adjustments, but the lens coatings are unique. The external lenses are coated with Multicoat 4 and the internal lenses are coated with magnesium fluoride.

    * Beginning in 2004, the VX-II line is fully multicoated and will perform comparably to the discontinued Vari-X III line.

VX-I

    * The VX-I also utilizes a combination of Vari-X III and Vari-X II technology, utilizing ¼-MOA friction (non-clicking) adjustments. The external lenses are multicoated and the internal lenses use magnesium fluoride.

Rifleman

    * Though the Rifleman line of scopes uses a different maintube (for aesthetic reasons), it is optically the same as the Vari-X II (discontinued for 2001). The adjustments are exactly the same as the Vari-X II (½-MOA friction) as are the lenses and coatings. All lenses, internal and external, are coated with magnesium fluoride. Basically, the Rifleman is a newer-looking matte finish version of the Vari-X II that helped build the Leupold reputation. It is important to note that Custom Shop options (reticle changes, target adjustment installation, etc.) are not available for the Rifleman line of scopes.

Beginning in 2005, there were changes to the fixed magnification scope lines, updating them to follow the current convention used by the VX series of scopes; all fixed magnification scopes now have an “FX” designation followed by a number indicating the combination of technologies used in that product. For example, an FX-II will have the same lens coatings and adjustments as a VX-II, an FX-III will have the same lens coatings and adjustments as the VX-III line, etc.

There was also a shift from using the term “compact" to the term “ultralight,” meaning that the FX-II 2.5x20mm Ultralight which was introduced in 2005 will be a fixed magnification scope with ¼-MOA click adjustments, fully multicoated lenses, and will have the compact eyepiece.

[drdougrx]

Thanks Quick...This clears up alot for me.  Now I can't wait to go home and check out the dozen or so Leupi's that I have! 

[crawford769]

thats some good info.   it sounds like the new vx l and rifleman scopes are a pretty good deal.  the new vx ll is looking like a better deal too with the full multicoat 4.

[p15camborne]

thats some good info.   it sounds like the new vx l and rifleman scopes are a pretty good deal.  the new vx ll is looking like a better deal too with the full multicoat 4.

I needed a scope for my new Handi Rifle .308.  So I just got a Leupold Rifleman 2-7x33 mm scope from Cabela's for less than $150.  The scope is on sale for $169.99 with free shipping and free Lenspen and no sales tax.  Cabela's is giving an additional $20 off on orders $100 or more thru 12-17-09.  Good deal for a scope with the same Leupold Full Lifetime Guarantee as all other Leupold's.

[carbineman]

Quick, Thanks for the post. The little woman wanted to get me something nice for Christmas, so after reading your post, we ordered a VX1 1-4x20mm shotgun/muzzleloader scope for my newest 30-30 topper project which is sitting topless without a scope as of yet. Hopefully it arrives here before Christmas cause she wants to place it under the tree. Hey, It pays to have a good record with Santa!

I purchased this same scope last year for our son for his gift and it sits on his topper rifle and is better optically than my older VariXIII's in my estimation and old eyes.

[quickdtoo]

Merry Christmas!!! I'm gettin a new Norelco from the wife, same story.    But that's what I needed most. 

Tim

[p15camborne]

thats some good info.   it sounds like the new vx l and rifleman scopes are a pretty good deal.  the new vx ll is looking like a better deal too with the full multicoat 4.

I needed a scope for my new Handi Rifle .308.  So I just got a Leupold Rifleman 2-7x33 mm scope from Cabela's for less than $150.  The scope is on sale for $169.99 with free shipping and free Lenspen and no sales tax.  Cabela's is giving an additional $20 off on orders $100 or more thru 12-17-09.  Good deal for a scope with the same Leupold Full Lifetime Guarantee as all other Leupold's.

By the way, the new Redfields made by Leupold have the same Guarantee - full lifetime no receipt required.

[NautiBuoys]

I have a Vari-X II 1-4x on my slug shotgun and a VX-II 1-4x on my muzzleloader and I'll darned if I can see a difference in clarity, brightness, image or other. And I'm looking and checking in all sorts of light (early AM, mid-day, evening, etc). Leupold says the VX-II is a 10% improvement and I believe 'em but I'll be darned if I can  see it. Maybe its my eyes, maybe they're both great scopes (which they are) but I can't see the difference...

[carbineman]

I have a Vari-X II 1-4x on my slug shotgun and a VX-II 1-4x on my muzzleloader and I'll darned if I can see a difference in clarity, brightness, image or other. And I'm looking and checking in all sorts of light (early AM, mid-day, evening, etc). Leupold says the VX-II is a 10% improvement and I believe 'em but I'll be darned if I can  see it. Maybe its my eyes, maybe they're both great scopes (which they are) but I can't see the difference...

I think I notice the difference mainly near dusk. Slight as it is though. These 20mm scopes are not noted for light gathering capability.

[NautiBuoys]

I've found both scopes have more than enough light to see well to after 1/2 hour after sunset, which is the legal end time
in the States I hunt.