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Getting Ready to Disarm America
« on: December 16, 2009, 09:16:52 AM »
Friends please read this.
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015

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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 09:35:02 AM »
The United Nations is a failed international body. It has accomplished nothing prevented nothing and now is just a forum for every two bit dictator or anyone else to pitch their venom.

We should withraw immeadiately if not sooner from this worthless body. Kick all out of the country and tear the buildings down. take the money we pump into that miserable body and put it toward paying down the Nations debt.

The League of Nations was a Failure and this United Nations has been a failure. christ look at who they honor and let give speeches Kaddafi?

Heres one of his notable quotes;

"We are content and happy if Obama can stay forever as the president of the United States," said Kadafi, Libya's leader since a military coup in 1969.


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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 03:08:53 PM »
they might get that thing past our president ..but they won t gettit passed by me an i don t intend to abide by its rules . i am the masses..slim, a patriot an defender of our constitution..

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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 03:21:05 PM »
No UN agreement can superceed our constitution. That is the law of this land. That does not mean that our federal government won't try and violate this legal principal in our law. If they do, those that enact and enforce it are violating the constitution and therefor an enemy of the state and its people. We know what needs to happen as the remedy should this be the case. And the application of that remedy, under our legal principals, is in the hands of the people. Nuff said.
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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 03:28:56 PM »
An international treaty, ratified by our senate and signed by our president, does supercede our constitution.  All they would have to do then, is get 300,000,000 Americans to abide by it.  I know a few that won't.......
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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 03:39:46 PM »
An international treaty, ratified by our senate and signed by our president, does supercede our constitution.  All they would have to do then, is get 300,000,000 Americans to abide by it.  I know a few that won't.......

Your correct, but there is no provision in the constitution that any ratified agreement can violate another provision in the constitution. So, a ratified treaty can bind us to NATO as an example. But a ratified treaty cannot violate the Bill of Rights. CANNOT. For the US government to enter into such an treaty would violate the constitution itself.
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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 07:23:52 PM »
An international treaty, ratified by our senate and signed by our president, does supercede our constitution.  All they would have to do then, is get 300,000,000 Americans to abide by it.  I know a few that won't.......

Your correct, but there is no provision in the constitution that any ratified agreement can violate another provision in the constitution. So, a ratified treaty can bind us to NATO as an example. But a ratified treaty cannot violate the Bill of Rights. CANNOT. For the US government to enter into such an treaty would violate the constitution itself.

That hasn't stopped tem from violating the constitution.  Whether it was the unconstitutional war against the South in the War of Northern Aggression, the unconstitutional 14th amendment, the unconstitutional New Deal, the unconstitutional Civil Rights Act, or our current unconstitutional president.  The Constitution got pissed on when Abraham Lincoln ignored it.

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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 07:40:32 PM »
the NRA warned about that like... six months ago maybe?  check their site, that's what I'm doing now, to see what updates on this they have posted.

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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2009, 08:18:15 PM »
An international treaty, ratified by our senate and signed by our president, does supercede our constitution.  All they would have to do then, is get 300,000,000 Americans to abide by it.  I know a few that won't.......

All it takes is 1 president and 67 senators to make it law, and that's in the constitution. The senate is where we might be able to apply pressure.
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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2009, 08:24:04 PM »
the clintons have a lot of money and leverage in the current administration.  they're gonna push it hard.  on the plus side THE WAY IT READS TO ME is that the whole UN has to agree to some really specific guidelines before there is even a written/finalized treaty to vote on.  I don't think the UN is gonna be able to pull that off.  that would mean the clintons would try to get the us to consider a binding agreement that the other UN nations didn't agree to- which is not only stupid but useless- and it would be voted down if even formally heard.  let's hope it works out that way- or that hilary decides to stop pushing for her idiocracy for awhile.

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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 04:13:30 AM »
An international treaty, ratified by our senate and signed by our president, does supercede our constitution.  All they would have to do then, is get 300,000,000 Americans to abide by it.  I know a few that won't.......

Your correct, but there is no provision in the constitution that any ratified agreement can violate another provision in the constitution. So, a ratified treaty can bind us to NATO as an example. But a ratified treaty cannot violate the Bill of Rights. CANNOT. For the US government to enter into such an treaty would violate the constitution itself.

That hasn't stopped tem from violating the constitution.  Whether it was the unconstitutional war against the South in the War of Northern Aggression, the unconstitutional 14th amendment, the unconstitutional New Deal, the unconstitutional Civil Rights Act, or our current unconstitutional president.  The Constitution got pissed on when Abraham Lincoln ignored it.

Of course the senate and the president can violate our constitution. They and congress do it all the time. My point is just that, they can violate the constitution and when they do, the remedy is with the people to get rid of the violators and usurpers. That power is uniquely ours, the people! We are the ultimate arbiters of justice when it comes elected officials and the courts violating our Rights and or the constitution. The precedence here is in the declaration of independence.
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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 04:19:49 AM »
 im with that cabin.. its govt of the people by the people for the people..
 that what i go by even if they ban even these words from public school..
its coming an  im afraid because im not in a position to do my duty to the constitution..
 but come it will im convinced . slim

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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 04:37:15 AM »
While certainly something to be concerned about, I don't think the powers to be have enough time to implement a working plan. This economy is going down the tubes at a rate, they have very little chance of getting anything organized.
The U.N. is a worthless group of welfare country's that depend on the U.S. for funding. And this country is is just about belly up as far as far as funding. And as far as a ''brown shirt police force'', take a look at South Africa. Absolute shambles, with very few small pockets of civilazation here and there.
IF, this government is in any kind of shape next year, there will be enough voters to change things, not sure if it will be enough, or time enough. I was going to make the analogy of the DC crowd running around like ants in an ant hill, but the ants are much better organized than they are. gypsyman
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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 05:55:59 AM »
While certainly something to be concerned about, I don't think the powers to be have enough time to implement a working plan. This economy is going down the tubes at a rate, they have very little chance of getting anything organized.
The U.N. is a worthless group of welfare country's that depend on the U.S. for funding.


Even with our economy going down the tubes, it's meaningless to the mega powers behind the NWO movement. They don't care about our economy, they only care about reestablishing an economic system they can benefit from. The curtains are coming off the Global Warming conspiracy of the super rich and their connection to the NWO (UN). It’s becoming more and more known that the same people behind the conspiracy that created the EURO currency are major players in spreading the falsehoods of global warming and resulting legislative changes such as Cap & Trade and other ridiculous measures to drum up new business opportunities and further control your life.

This president is nothing more than a puppet to the UN and the real mega rich players behind the UN curtains. They are more powerful than our president and our congress. They have the money and they know they can buy our politician or any politician in the world. They are doing it right now, just look at the so called health care bill. Its noting more than a back room deal to ensure major drug and health care providers bottom line $$ are secured. In-turn Obama and the other political backers will get major campaign contributions and our costs as tax payers and consumers will rise and we all have NO recourse because it will be a legal government run/controlled monopoly entitlement.

I have said this before, we no longer have to worry about this country being taken over by a foreign enemy. It’s already happened. They will continue to take our rights and take away our money so they can beat us down to a people dependant on big government. And we will have no choice but to go along since the alternative means having “nothing”.

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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 07:22:39 AM »
I agree.  The problem is getting the people to actually do this.  Hopefully the people of this country are finally waking up to what this government has been doing.

An international treaty, ratified by our senate and signed by our president, does supercede our constitution.  All they would have to do then, is get 300,000,000 Americans to abide by it.  I know a few that won't.......

Your correct, but there is no provision in the constitution that any ratified agreement can violate another provision in the constitution. So, a ratified treaty can bind us to NATO as an example. But a ratified treaty cannot violate the Bill of Rights. CANNOT. For the US government to enter into such an treaty would violate the constitution itself.

That hasn't stopped tem from violating the constitution.  Whether it was the unconstitutional war against the South in the War of Northern Aggression, the unconstitutional 14th amendment, the unconstitutional New Deal, the unconstitutional Civil Rights Act, or our current unconstitutional president.  The Constitution got pissed on when Abraham Lincoln ignored it.

Of course the senate and the president can violate our constitution. They and congress do it all the time. My point is just that, they can violate the constitution and when they do, the remedy is with the people to get rid of the violators and usurpers. That power is uniquely ours, the people! We are the ultimate arbiters of justice when it comes elected officials and the courts violating our Rights and or the constitution. The precedence here is in the declaration of independence.



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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 01:48:01 PM »
Remember our "national parks", like yellowstone and such.  By treaty, they are no longer ours.  We cannot fully control them.  They are now "world heritage sites", and come under the dominion of the UN.  Look it up.
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Re: Getting Ready to Disarm America
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 05:02:22 PM »
Remember our "national parks", like yellowstone and such.  By treaty, they are no longer ours.  We cannot fully control them.  They are now "world heritage sites", and come under the dominion of the UN.  Look it up.

Your are correct. I'm opposed to any "alliances" or any "treaty" that violates our constitution our sovereignty. World Heritage Group is a sub-division of UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization). Which as you say is part of the corrupt NWO conspirators..the UN. UNESCO is essentially the global warming conspiracy arm of the UN. This is how the UN executes its process for world domination. They create these sub groups which create other sub groups to give cover and help separate the mega rich that are really behind the UN.

On the surface, most people think the UN is all about the General Assembly. You know, peace and food for the poor,,,bla bla bla. The reality is the UN is just the head of an enormous octopus. The tentacles are full of greedy power hungry mega rich socialists and communists pushing their agenda upward. It manifests itself in alliances like World Heritage who’s end game is control, bit by bit in a narrow focus. Their strategy is working and our government and politicians are ignoring the warnings written by our founding fathers.

When will this country wake the heck up. Turning over control or even partial control of our land to any foreign entity is wrong! Of course the US has to give our tax dollars money to this World Heritage to be a member. All makes sense now….
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