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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2009, 12:55:02 PM »
41caliber, then the 414 supermag.   This should be a good handi caliber.

Krag improved in 375 caliber , then you have the 38-72Win.  Use a necked down 405win case for the thicker rim.  280gr @ 2,400fps is easy. 

Rimmed 35 cal, then 356 win or 35winchester
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2009, 01:23:57 PM »
I'm happy with what they got already.  I've got a .17HMR, .22Mag, .223, .243, 30-06, .35 Whelen, and 45-70.  That takes care of anything I want to shoot.  To exceed what they are currently making they would have to totally redesign the frame.

kevensmith5:  They already is a lengthier .45LC, two in fact.  .454 Casull and the .460 S&W.

 
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2009, 03:18:04 PM »
Can you shoot 45LC out of the Casull?
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2009, 03:25:59 PM »
Quote from: kevinsmith5 on December 19, 2009, 03:18:04 PM
Can you shoot 45LC out of the Casull?

YEP!
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2009, 04:18:06 PM »
Get a proprietary in a case designed for subsonic.

Got a hankering for something quiet.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2009, 05:13:32 PM »
Quote from: mrgd on December 17, 2009, 05:28:12 PM
Along the same lines as some of the other suggestions, I would like to see a substantially extended 22lr.  Extend it enough to get close to 22wmr speeds.  That would allow shorts, long, lr's, and the 22handimag.  I think that would pretty much surpass the 22 mag in usefullness and versetility. 

There used to be a 22 Extra long, but it was only about an 1/8 inch longer, about like the extended length high velocity 22 cases.

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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2009, 05:16:40 PM »


  I'd like one on the other end.

  How about a .223 necked up to .24 cal. That would make it legal in states where a .22 isn't.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2009, 10:12:11 AM »
Quote from: PHATINJUN on December 19, 2009, 04:52:53 AM
I just think it's sad they haven't made a factory .32 H&R mag and they have had that around a long time so these others are truly pipe dreams. Kurt
I would love a 32 H&R in an affordable rifle.  A Handi-rifle would fit the bill.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2009, 02:23:38 PM »
Quote from: mogwai on December 20, 2009, 10:12:11 AM
Quote from: PHATINJUN on December 19, 2009, 04:52:53 AM
I just think it's sad they haven't made a factory .32 H&R mag and they have had that around a long time so these others are truly pipe dreams. Kurt
I would love a 32 H&R in an affordable rifle.  A Handi-rifle would fit the bill.

If they made a 327 Federal Magnum, you could shoot 32 S&W Long and 32 H&R Mags as well, making it a very versatile rifle. :)
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2009, 01:58:48 PM »
While we're all dreaming why not resurect the 400 whelen ?
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2010, 03:09:30 AM »
Quote from: kevinsmith5 on December 17, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
How about a 45 Longer Colt? Shoot long colt and longer, say a 1/4" longer cartridge?

.454 Cas. ???
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2010, 03:15:38 AM »
Quote from: Ole Man Dan on January 26, 2010, 03:09:30 AM
Quote from: kevinsmith5 on December 17, 2009, 02:56:21 PM
How about a 45 Longer Colt? Shoot long colt and longer, say a 1/4" longer cartridge?

.454 Cas. ???

is  called  the  460 S&W magnum

but then  455 handi mag

add 1/4 inch  to 460S&W  that  shoots  45lc, 454 cassul, 460 S&W.  PLUS  the 455 handi mag
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2010, 07:14:43 AM »
I would be intriged by a .35 rem 'improved'.  A little less body taper with a sharper shoulder so they could not be used in some of the older lever actions, but loaded to a higher pressure than the Rem.  I know it still can be duplicated by a good .357 max, but it would be a new 'factory' loading out there that is not otherwise available.  And it would not quite be a 'whelen' and would be without the problems of that round.  Or make it a .35 whelen with a rim!!!  :)  44 Man
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2010, 07:23:25 AM »
Blowing the .338 Marlin Express out to .35 caliber might be cool.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2010, 07:25:52 AM »
Sounds like a 356 Win to me.

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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2010, 07:28:34 AM »
Quote from: quickdtoo on January 26, 2010, 07:25:52 AM
Sounds like a 356 Win to me.

Tim

Since Hornady/Marlin reinvented the .307 they may as well claim the .356 too.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2010, 10:55:14 AM »
30-120 looks interesting  should vaporize a possum ;D
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2010, 12:29:36 PM »
Quote from: Lazermule on December 19, 2009, 07:35:23 AM
Quote from: Dinny on December 18, 2009, 05:50:48 AM
Quote from: BrianB on December 18, 2009, 05:49:44 AM
I've been hoping for a 45-70 necked down to a .17...should be a good squirrel gun. ;D

A 17-70??  Interesting.......

Heck, go right to a 17 / 120..... ;D

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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2010, 01:36:01 PM »
250 Savage AI rimmed.

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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2010, 03:00:30 PM »
Don't think it will fly, Otony and our poll on special production runs took care of my optimism there LOL. However..........perhaps we could get a "classic" run, in one caliber a year, like the rem 700 did back in the 80s/90s. Say start with a 22 savage high power and go up... or with the 405 win and go down.......OK , Hell, start with the 32-40 winchester and go BOTH ways....
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2010, 03:48:48 PM »
32 H&R Mag. They already have H&R in the name. I think it would sell like hotcakes.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2010, 02:01:28 AM »
Quote from: Rustyinfla on December 19, 2009, 05:16:40 PM


  I'd like one on the other end.

  How about a .223 necked up to .24 cal. That would make it legal in states where a .22 isn't.

They call that a 6mm TCU.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2010, 06:56:26 AM »
Quote from: rockrat on December 19, 2009, 12:55:02 PM
41caliber, then the 414 supermag.   This should be a good handi caliber.

Krag improved in 375 caliber , then you have the 38-72Win.  Use a necked down 405win case for the thicker rim.  280gr @ 2,400fps is easy. 

Rimmed 35 cal, then 356 win or 35winchester

Rockrat,

I am with you on the .41 and .414! I even have the brass for it too  ;D ;D and before anyone asks nope it aint for sale!!

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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2010, 01:04:51 PM »
Quote from: RangerJ on December 17, 2009, 03:12:37 PM
How about a proprietery magnum rifle cartridge. They could design a frame for the round that would handle the pressure of magnum loadings.

You already have a Magnum frame.  The .270 is   65000 psi and same
as magnum cartridges.   BUT then again the magnum cartridges
have larger case head areas and that results in more rearward
thrust.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2010, 01:47:00 PM »

[/quote]
i  did  like the suggestion
and  never  thought about  the   .22  super long H&R rim fire
that also  handles  shorts longs  andlong rifles
[/quote]

It works. I have done it.   I take a 22bolt action and shove the
bullet into the rifling by a measured small amount
With the barrel pointed down I pour the amount of powder
into the barrel that is desired that is more than normal
22 LR and try to make the powder a little slower burning.
Then put an empty stinger case into the chamber all while
the barrel is pointed down.  The Stinger case is stronger
than the other rimfire cases and will not blow the rims
off at pressures that regular LR cases will.  I use an inertial
bullet puller to get the empty cases.
I cannot remember now but I had an article that explained
how CCI was able to get the extra velocity and it was
by using a slower powder that they mentioned the name
of.  That is how I knew to pick my powder to be just
a bit slower.
IF screwing around with 22s like this, be sure to wear
goggles, remove the extractor from the bolt so it doesnt
break when the rim blows off and be sure to remove your
magazine before you shoot.   BTW, the rims alway blow
off far before the action or receiver would fail.

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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2010, 01:53:56 PM »
off subject  but when  i was young  and STUPIDER

i loaded 55grain  223 slugs in my ruger single 6
followed  by concrete nail gun charges

they  tumbled and were inaccurate
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2010, 02:15:37 PM »
I have a NIB 500 S&W, I may just wait for a 327 (or 375 win) to come out and trade. If I keep saying 32....32.....32..like Dorothy and "there's no place like home", maybe they will do so.
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2010, 01:28:55 PM »
Quote from: mrgd on December 17, 2009, 05:28:12 PM
Along the same lines as some of the other suggestions, I would like to see a substantially extended 22lr.  Extend it enough to get close to 22wmr speeds.  That would allow shorts, long, lr's, and the 22handimag.  I think that would pretty much surpass the 22 mag in usefullness and versetility. 


.22 HandiMag! I want one!
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #58 on: January 31, 2010, 10:12:21 PM »
While there will never be any shortage of cartridges that we all want chambered in the Handi platform , I think realisticly that the 327 Fed would be a dandy addition to the line up.. Specially for those of us that like matching calibered long/short arms set-ups..

 I have considered the 327 Fed due to its versitility of multiple cartridge ( 32, 32 long, 32 H&R and the 327 Fed) abilities , just havent found the one i want when the funds were there... Yet!
 http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=108473       This one comes to mind  ;D

 And a Handi in that caliber would sell me on getting both .

 Me having 900+ .312 110gr projectiles doesnt make bias does it ?  ;)
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Re: new propriatory H&R handi round
« Reply #59 on: February 01, 2010, 03:14:56 AM »
Don't like Propriatory cartridges, too hard to get hold of when you lose your ammo and need replacement.
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