Which republicans will vote for the "health care" bill?

[Questor]

There could be a couple of them. That would make it bipartisan.

[slim rem 7]

enough id guess ..but its christmas an im not gonna be negative ..if i can help it..slim

[Dee]

At this point what difference does it really make. I have long since lost any hope I held for either party. It is all about power, and has nothing to do with right and wrong.
It is simply:, What do I need to do to keep'em votin me in.
The answer is just as simple. All you have to do is BE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN AND, "YOU WILL GET YOUR TURN" AT SELLING US DOWN THE RIVER.
The American voter will not change out of fear of one party or the other, so there is no need for the politicians to change. SO THEY WON'T.

[Heather]

Bama's senators voted NO!

Heather

[KB21]

I wonder how much money the AMA got to voice their support of this bill?  This infuriates me!  I'm a physician, and the AMA has sold all of us out on this.  Needless to say, I will not be renewing my dues to this organization. 

[powderman]

Bama's senators voted NO!

Heather

KENTUCKY too, I believe.  POWDERMAN. 

[jjas]

At this point what difference does it really make. I have long since lost any hope I held for either party. It is all about power, and has nothing to do with right and wrong.
It is simply:, What do I need to do to keep'em votin me in.
The answer is just as simple. All you have to do is BE A DEMOCRAT OR A REPUBLICAN AND, "YOU WILL GET YOUR TURN" AT SELLING US DOWN THE RIVER.
The American voter will not change out of fear of one party or the other, so there is no need for the politicians to change. SO THEY WON'T.

You are exactly right.  It's been this way for as long as I can remember and it's only getting worse as the years go by.  There's no excuse for people to be in Congress as long as many of these people are, yet "we the people" keep sending them back because they bring home the pork.  

Fire them all.  Quit voting for incumbents to begin with and start looking @ candidates, not party and see where that takes us.  Will it change anything?  Maybe not, but man would it feel good to see these jerks sent home.

[alsaqr]

What Dee said.  While folks get on these political threads and argue the virtues of their prespecive congressional critters, those critters are taking most of their money from the same organizations.  The Repukes and Demonrats in DC put on this big partisan show in public.  They are laughing their silly butts off at us in private.  In these tables bold means that both Reid and McConnell took money from the same industries.  

Whose pockets is Harry Reid into.  This is 1904 re-election info.  

Lawyers/Law Firms $1,316,563 $1,120,776 $195,787
Casinos/Gambling $624,713 $507,614 $117,099
Lobbyists $385,649 $376,597 $9,052
Real Estate $377,450 $249,950 $127,500  
Securities & Investment $303,450 $168,950 $134,500
Health Professionals $271,549 $119,050 $152,499
Transportation Unions $205,000 $0 $205,000
TV/Movies/Music $185,500 $105,000 $80,500
Business Services $179,898 $147,689 $32,209
Retired $170,450 $170,450 $0
Public Sector Unions $158,500 $1,000 $157,500
Computers/Internet $158,025 $57,025 $101,000
Building Trade Unions $156,000 $0 $156,000
Commercial Banks $155,896 $60,500 $95,396
Insurance $151,660 $41,160 $110,500
Mining $141,849 $44,349 $97,500
General Contractors $137,700 $98,200 $39,500
Misc Finance $132,175 $124,675 $7,500
Leadership PACs $125,600 $0 $125,600
Air Transport $114,250 $24,750 $89,500


Whose pockets is Mitch McConnell into?  This is 1908 re-election info.  

Securities & Investment $1,272,274 $990,775 $281,499
Lawyers/Law Firms $1,026,233 $778,283 $247,950
Retired $911,430 $911,430 $0
Real Estate $858,105 $631,105 $227,000
Health Professionals $759,850 $499,950 $259,900
Lobbyists $643,043 $628,793 $14,250
Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $577,435 $159,450 $417,985
Republican/Conservative $503,583 $460,783 $42,800
Insurance $500,533 $248,833 $251,700
Oil & Gas $477,400 $262,400 $215,000
Commercial Banks $467,600 $272,100 $195,500
Pro-Israel $407,200 $304,200 $103,000
General Contractors $374,121 $283,121 $91,000
Leadership PACs $358,701 $0 $358,701  
Misc Finance $336,234 $301,734 $34,500
Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $333,150 $215,650 $117,500
TV/Movies/Music $327,850 $151,350 $176,500
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $323,050 $257,550 $65,500
Misc Business $308,650 $288,150 $20,500
Electric Utilities $287,250 $49,500 $237,750

[Dee]

Gosh alsaqr! I just don't know what to say! You mean the Republicans i.e.the LESSOR OF TWO EVILS, is JUST AS BAD AS the Democrats?
Too bad the PSEUDO CONSERVATIVES that "THINK" their TRUE CONSERVATIVES and vote for the "lessor of two evils" will never see this. They can't. They have blinders on.

[alsaqr]

Yep, Dee, the Repubilicans in congress are just as bad as the Democrats.  Ever wonder why tort reform goes nowhere in congress?  It is because the movers and shakers on both sides of the aisle are in the pockets of the lawyers.  The Republicans whine about tort reform, but there is a tacit agreement between the lawyers and the Republicans that nothing will be done to reform tort and the money just keeps pouring in.

Republicans make a lot of noise about dirty movies and dirty shows on TV.   All the while they are in the pockets of the Movie and TV moguls.  It goes without saying how the putrid decision to bail out Wall St. happened.  Both Democrats and Republicans are in the pockets of the Wall St. fat cats. 

I like the term "pseudo-conservative".  Sometimes I use "quasi-conservative".

[Dee]

When I was in the dog training business, some of my colleagues used pseudo drugs, designed to "smell like drugs" but weren't really drugs or narcotics and were actually Asprin based. They had a lot of trouble in court because the first question the lawyers for the defense would ask was: So there are other things that smell like drugs but aren't really drugs? Answer had to be: YES! Thus the term PSEUDO Drugs or PSEUDO Narcotics.
The term also fits PSEUDO CONSERVATIVES. They claim to be conservative but actually vote for what is laughingly called a "moderate conservative" candidate.
A TRUE Conservative would NEVER vote for anyone that doesn't vote 100% Constitution and Bill of Rights. That is why we are in the trouble we're in right now. Pseudo Conservatives THINK their something they are not, which is a True Conservative. You cannot be one thing and vote another. You have to make a choice, win or lose.

[powderman]

Mcconnel says he's definitely AGAINST the health care farce and will vote so. He's had several speaking engagements campaigning AGAINST osamas plan. POWDERMAN. 

[KB21]

When I was in the dog training business, some of my colleagues used pseudo drugs, designed to "smell like drugs" but weren't really drugs or narcotics and were actually Asprin based. They had a lot of trouble in court because the first question the lawyers for the defense would ask was: So there are other things that smell like drugs but aren't really drugs? Answer had to be: YES! Thus the term PSEUDO Drugs or PSEUDO Narcotics.
The term also fits PSEUDO CONSERVATIVES. They claim to be conservative but actually vote for what is laughingly called a "moderate conservative" candidate.
A TRUE Conservative would NEVER vote for anyone that doesn't vote 100% Constitution and Bill of Rights. That is why we are in the trouble we're in right now. Pseudo Conservatives THINK their something they are not, which is a True Conservative. You cannot be one thing and vote another. You have to make a choice, win or lose.

Exactly.  Even the republicans think that some sort of federal legislation is needed to fix health care, even though they oppose this bill and government controlled health care.  What they don't oppose is the federal regulation of the industry, and that is what causes the price of health care to rise significantly.  What's funny is that when the tort reform issue comes up, they say that those cases are filed at the state level and should be left up to each state.  I would agree with them if they would take this stance with all the other stuff they do that should be done at the state level......like any form of health care regulation and health care reform. 

[torpedoman]

straight party line vote split.

[nw_hunter]

I wonder how much money the AMA got to voice their support of this bill?  This infuriates me!  I'm a physician, and the AMA has sold all of us out on this.  Needless to say, I will not be renewing my dues to this organization. 

Good for you KB21!

[Sourdough]

The Kangaroo court that convicted Stevens announced his conviction the day before the election, caused him to be beaten, just barely by Begich(D).  Now Begich is toeing the line and voting how he is told by the Democrats.  Our other Senator Lisa Murkowski (R) is waffeling, she just might vote yes with Begich.

We are hoping Sarah knocks her out of office next year.  Then we are planning on replacing Begich two years later.

[Graybeard]

Not all Republican have forgotten their conservative roots. Both of Alabama's Senators and generally speaking my Congressman vote the way I'd want them to and do so well over 90% of the time I'd say. The Congressman somewhat less so than the Senators.

I'd love to replace the Congressman with someone better but to be honest in the time he's been there no one has run to oppose him that would do as well much less better. Last time I didn't vote for him but wasn't able to vote against him either as the opposition would have been FAR worse.

Same can be said for our Senators. Because they are part of the DC crowd and I'd kinda like a clean sweep I'd vote against them IF there was a better choice to vote for. So far there has not been. Besides it's darn rare either votes differently than I'd have them vote at least not on roll call votes when we can know what our representatives really are doing. Both have introduced some good worthwhile bills tho they don't always get them passed. I have to say that altogether their records stand as some of the best up there in DC. Until a better choice is presented to me I can sure live with them. Sure I'd like to see better to vote for but I've yet to see it.

[nomosendero]

The Kangaroo court that convicted Stevens announced his conviction the day before the election, caused him to be beaten, just barely by Begich(D).  Now Begich is toeing the line and voting how he is told by the Democrats.  Our other Senator Lisa Murkowski (R) is waffeling, she just might vote yes with Begich.

We are hoping Sarah knocks her out of office next year.  Then we are planning on replacing Begich two years later.

Good plan, but I am not sure we have that much time.