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Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« on: December 23, 2009, 11:59:08 AM »
We heard how the State Capital was packed with angry hunters and mad legislators like Russ Decker of Weston and Scott Gunderson of Waterford, telling the DNR off and calling for heads to roll because of low herd numbers. Well, here's a view point from the opposite side of the spectrum that basically says those who do not see it like the DNR, are alarmists that don't understand the facts. Just thought you might like to see a comparison.

Deer Alarmists React Without Facts

by Pat Durkin, the Green Bay Press Gazette

December 17, 2009


Judging by their press releases on November's deer season, be prepared to pat the hands of state Sen. Russ Decker, D-Weston, and Rep. Scott Gunderson, R-Waterford, if you ever sit by them on an airplane bounced by turbulence.

If gentle reassurance doesn't stop their shrieking, suggest the flight attendant slap them.

Decker's hysterical demand on Dec. 3 to fire the state's top deer managers and Gundy's panicky call Dec. 4 to cancel December's four-day antlerless gun season show these lawmakers can't control their emotions.

"It is absolutely imperative the (Natural Resources) Board takes swift action to protect Wisconsin's deer heard (sic) from further harm that may take generations to recover from," Gundy declared.

The Board ignored him, and the low-impact season was held as scheduled. And what about Gundy's nonsense that deer might need "generations" to recover? Even if he meant deer generations, not human generations, he needs schooling in deer biology.

Researchers at Michigan's George Reserve twice showed deer herds capable of 50 percent annual growth. Starting with six whitetails in 1928, the reserve's herd boomed to 222 in seven years. And in 1975, after reducing the herd to 10 deer, most of which were fawns, researchers reported the herd at 212 after six breeding seasons.

But Gundy's outburst was nothing compared to that of Decker, majority leader of our Senate. Does that "D" in "D-Weston" after Decker's name stand for Democrat or Demagogue?

Granted, the DNR should stick to its harvest data and let others suggest wet, warm conditions and uncut corn helped lower the kill. By discussing factors beyond its control, the DNR sounds like it's making excuses.

Likewise, Decker shouldn't use his personal experience in Lincoln County to make statewide generalizations about hunting conditions.

"The swamps were pretty dry where our crew was hunting," he claimed. "We don't let a little water stop us from going after deer."

Bravo, sir! Give yourself another attaboy!

For the record, the National Agricultural Statistics Service reported 41 percent of the state's corn remained uncut because of wet soils as of Nov. 23 (the Monday of deer season). The five-year average is 19 percent uncut. That's a lot of extra hiding room.

The NASS also reported average temperatures were 7 to 11 degrees above normal during deer season, with average daily highs of 46 to 48 degrees. Research shows deer activity basically ceases in late autumn when temperatures hit 45 degrees.

But Decker went beyond weather with his pandering. He pleased barbershop biologists with this gem:

"The DNR has mismanaged the deer herd and a new team needs to be brought in that can do the job."

Unfortunately for Sen. Decker, the candidate pool appears thin. The Minnesota DNR reported a statewide kill of about 200,000 deer, the state's lowest figure in about 10 years. The agency also reported standing corn in 80 percent of Minnesota's fields.

Meanwhile, the Michigan DNR reported the deer kill fell 20 to 30 percent in the Upper Peninsula, 15 to 25 percent in the northern Lower Peninsula, and 5 to 10 percent in southern Michigan. Agency biologists said the main reasons for the slump were "unseasonably hot weather" during hunting season and harsh winter a year ago.

In addition, Michigan's corn harvest was 35 percent by Nov. 16, the second day of its 16-day season. "In an average year, it's 80 percent, " said Brent Rudolph, Michigan DNR deer program leader. "It's likely some deer never left the standing corn."

How about Illinois? Even though Illinois lacks northern forests and severe winters, its gun-hunters failed to kill 100,000 deer for the first time since 1999. The reasons cited? Warm weather and a 33 percent harvest of its corn crop.

Despite these declines in herd sizes and harvest figures across the Great Lakes, the bigger question remains: Why is anyone surprised?

The Wisconsin DNR issued a reminder before the season — Nov. 10, to be exact — that this year's deer kill would be lower than in 2008.

In addition, the mission of wildlife agencies isn't to match previous kills or produce records annually. Their task is to manage the herd to publicly approved biological and sociological goals. For much of the past three decades, that meant reducing herds.

That the Wisconsin DNR might finally be succeeding is hardly a firing offense. The same can't be said of Sen. Decker's childish tantrum.

Patrick Durkin is a freelance writer who covers outdoors for the Press-Gazette. E-mail him at patrickdurkin@charter.net

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20091217/GPG0702/912170579/1233/GPG0204/Pat-Durkin-column--Deer-alarmists-react-without-facts
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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 03:40:49 PM »
Now if that aint good ol DNR counting again.  A deer herd can rebound 50% in one year, with the average doe maybe having two surviving fawns in the north. A wolf, or coyote, like dogs have a couple of litters a year and number 6-8 per litter, but yet there are only under 700 of them.  If nothing else, they should be canned for not passing math class!

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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2009, 05:24:53 AM »
<Likewise, Decker shouldn't use his personal experience in Lincoln County to make statewide generalizations about hunting conditions.

"The swamps were pretty dry where our crew was hunting," he claimed. "We don't let a little water stop us from going after deer."> End of Quoted Text

Is Durkin suggesting that the deer were hiding in the corn in Lincoln County? If I remember rightly, there is not a lot of acres of farmground (corn) in Lincoln county, but I might be wrong. Anyone know?


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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2009, 09:51:33 AM »
What gives a newspaper writer any more credibility than a politician when it comes to deer management? Deer kill numbers don't lie (except when hunters fail to register them).  He uses a deer herd in a reserve in michigan for his stats, I wonder if those deer get fed over the winter? Were there wolves and cougars in michigan in 1975? For a deer herd to go from 10 to 212 in six years is voodoo math, if that was the case there we would be over-ran with them.

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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 10:56:21 AM »
I've only been hunting in Wisconsin for four years now but I saw more deer this year than all the others combined. We did finally get on private land though, I'm sure that was the cause.
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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 12:30:46 PM »
What gives a newspaper writer any more credibility than a politician when it comes to deer management? Deer kill numbers don't lie (except when hunters fail to register them).  He uses a deer herd in a reserve in michigan for his stats, I wonder if those deer get fed over the winter? Were there wolves and cougars in michigan in 1975? For a deer herd to go from 10 to 212 in six years is voodoo math, if that was the case there we would be over-ran with them.
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Also let us not forget a newspaper writer from the "adgenda driven criminal news media" the Green Bay Press Gazette, along with all the rest, liberal viewpoints for the want of hearing their voices through print, It's no wonder ALL newspapers readership is down. They blame the internet, LOL, typical denial traits coming from those who aren't really in the know or more like, don't want to know. People or should I say ex-readership have gotten them figured out. You cannot squew the facts or take the numbers out of contects anymore, your gonna get called on it.  CRASH87

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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2009, 02:00:47 PM »
What gives a newspaper writer any more credibility than a politician when it comes to deer management?

Nothing Mirage. He doesn't have any more credibility. He just happened to luck out and get a newspaper that would print his propaganda.
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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2009, 02:05:29 PM »
Also let us not forget a newspaper writer from the "agenda driven criminal news media" the Green Bay Press Gazette, along with all the rest, liberal viewpoints for the want of hearing their voices through print, It's no wonder ALL newspapers readership is down.

Crash,

I understand your take on Wisconsin Newspapers. I wish someone could point me in the direction of a more suitable news outlet when it comes to Wisconsin Outdoor News. It seems they are all the same.
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Re: Wisconsin Deer Alarmists React Without Facts
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2009, 05:38:50 PM »
Now if that aint good ol DNR counting again.  A deer herd can rebound 50% in one year, with the average doe maybe having two surviving fawns in the north. A wolf, or coyote, like dogs have a couple of litters a year and number 6-8 per litter, but yet there are only under 700 of them.  If nothing else, they should be canned for not passing math class!

Absolutely an excellent observation!