Author Topic: what would you do when the day comes that the come after our firearms (Read 1714 times)

beadlescomb · « **on:** December 25, 2009, 05:56:41 PM »

i mean come to our homes i know what i would do just wondering about everyone else

Spanky · « **Reply #1 on:** December 25, 2009, 06:01:27 PM »

I would do the best I could to defend what is mine.

Spanky

beadlescomb · « **Reply #2 on:** December 25, 2009, 06:05:51 PM »

i know that i would stand my guard and when the time came i'd rig the place to blow and have myfamily somewhere safe and far away i'd do my best to hold them off till the last second then i'd hit the plunger and destroy it all

Spanky · « **Reply #3 on:** December 25, 2009, 06:14:14 PM »

I hope we never see the day. With these bozo's in office now though... who knows? $:-\$

Spanky

Sourdough · « **Reply #4 on:** December 25, 2009, 08:50:41 PM »

I really can't see that happening here in Alaska, guns are a way of life for us. We all have them and none of us are going to give them up. Right down to Sarah and Todd Palin. If they started we would hear about it and have time to get out away from town. And woo be unto any one who tried to follow us.

Graybeard · « **Reply #5 on:** December 25, 2009, 09:23:02 PM »

I fully expect to die but figure or at least hope I take out more of them than the one of me they get. I do believe it is when and not IF they will come for our guns.

beerbelly · « **Reply #6 on:** December 26, 2009, 02:40:20 AM »

You are right about that GB, it is when not if.
Beerbelly

jimster · « **Reply #7 on:** December 26, 2009, 03:27:59 AM »

I would expect to die as well, but more than likely I'd die before they came into my home, from shooting them in the back for going into my neighbors home.
I think I'd rather die on the offensive then on the defensive. Give them something to think about while going into people's homes.
Better yet, once eveyone knows this is coming down, just pay their main office a visit, save them some gas. I never liked waiting around for what you know is going to happen.

beadlescomb · « **Reply #8 on:** December 26, 2009, 03:39:57 AM »

everyone that comments this is probably being added to the homeland security list of terrorists

magooch · « **Reply #9 on:** December 26, 2009, 03:46:11 AM »

So who keeps guns around anyway? I wouldn't have any of those things around if my life depended on it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Besides, if they hit my neighbor's place first, they'll be occupied there for a long time.

beadlescomb · « **Reply #10 on:** December 26, 2009, 03:52:15 AM »

one thing ive always wondered is would they only be able to find where to come get the guns that were bought in a store where a 4473 was filled out then all that needs to be said is i sold them or they were stolen then the goverment would probably proceed to destroy your home while searching for them

mechanic · « **Reply #11 on:** December 26, 2009, 03:54:21 AM »

Quote from: beadlescomb on December 26, 2009, 03:39:57 AM

everyone that comments this is probably being added to the homeland security list of terrorists

I will assure you that everyone on this site is in the eyes of the authorities part of a militia group. You have been on a list a while....As long as they spell my name correctly, thats ok by me....

bobg · « **Reply #12 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:35:06 AM »

They will start with people that are not at home. Are we suppose to stay home constantly to watch for this? Believe me i know it has already happen to me. It took me over six months to get my guns back. When i went to pick up my guns the idiots had twenty long guns of mine jammed in a garbage can. There wasn't a lawyer in this whole county that would help me file an unreasonal search and seizure charge.

searlock · « **Reply #13 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:40:06 AM »

the they, all are refering to is the police that everyone seems to love.

Hooker · « **Reply #14 on:** December 26, 2009, 04:53:40 AM »

They will not come for your guns they will tax them and ammo until most can't afford them. They will outlaw more and more types of weapons, until all are outlawed then they will require that you turn them in and many of us will.
Many of us will also hide our guns and they will not be easy to access. At this point we will be easy prey
for the gun grabbers our numbers reduced our weapons hidden away.

Pat

yellowtail3 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:14:36 AM »

Quote from: Hooker on December 26, 2009, 04:53:40 AM

They will not come for your guns they will tax them and ammo until most can't afford them. They will outlaw more and more types of weapons, until all are outlawed then they will require that you turn them in and many of us will.

quite likely.

additionally.. continue to add to the list of 'crimes' that constitute 'felonies' or otherwise disqualify one from owning a firearm. Example: 'domestic violence' law. In many states... a woman (usually a wife, ready to divorce) can go to a judge and ask for a 'restraining order' and get non-parte order - all she has to do, is say she's scared. The police can come to your house, kick you out, and take your firearms. Ten days later you go to a hearing where the decision is made on whether or not to continue the order for a year. The inclincation of judges is to leave the order in place.

OR... let's say you have a fight with your wife. She goes hysterical, slapping. You lose your cool and slap back. She calls the police. THEN SHE presses charges, and you get convicted. Doesn't have to be a felony - and you've just lost the right to bear arms.

These are favorite tools of the gun-grabbers. thank JOE BIDEN

Black Eagle · « **Reply #16 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:17:42 AM »

I'm not willing to die for my guns and I'm not willing to hide them either. I'd give them up and, perhaps, leave the country for a friendlier place. I've been all over the world and there are lots of places where I can keep my guns and live happily. My wife and I have already been looking for a second home in a secret place [we don't mention it because we don't want a whole bunch of people moving there

] where I can keep all the guns I want. I served this country 40 years ago as an Infantry Officer, I've paid enough taxes to support a couple leper colonies, I've spent 35 years battling constitutional rights in one courtroom or another, and I figure I don't owe the USA anything more.

Brett · « **Reply #17 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:32:54 AM »

Quote from: yellowtail3 on December 26, 2009, 05:14:36 AM

Quote from: Hooker on December 26, 2009, 04:53:40 AM
They will not come for your guns they will tax them and ammo until most can't afford them. They will outlaw more and more types of weapons, until all are outlawed then they will require that you turn them in and many of us will.
quite likely.

additionally.. continue to add to the list of 'crimes' that constitute 'felonies' or otherwise disqualify one from owning a firearm. Example: 'domestic violence' law. In many states... a woman (usually a wife, ready to divorce) can go to a judge and ask for a 'restraining order' and get non-parte order - all she has to do, is say she's scared. The police can come to your house, kick you out, and take your firearms.

These are favorite tools of the gun-grabbers. thank JOE BIDEN

I agree. This scenario is more likely than a military type door to door sweep to collect guns. The government will simply create more and more 'legal' reasons to ban them or take them from us one individual at a time. Soon simple traffic violations, or taking certain prescription medications will be reason enough to ban someone from owning a firearm.

Ever get into a verbal confrontation with someone, a store clerk/manager, another driver, whoever, and the cops were called? This could be deemed reason enough to confiscate your guns, doesn't mater that no physical contact was made or no charges were filed.

I'm sure you have all heard the old adage "Q: How do you eat an Elephant?... A: One bite at a time." Private gun ownership in this country is an elephant to those who want power over us. They will simply find ways to eat the elephant one bite at a time.

A mass military collection effort would in all likelihood meet with a strong resistance from the populous but who here would die for your neighbors guns if a new law were passed that made his guns illegal?

Look at history. There were no mass confiscations of guns in the UK or OZ. They just slowly but surely chipped away at them thru the legal system until gun ownership for all but the elite is non existent in those countries. Even the Nazis did not start out conducting mass raids they started slowly and only after they had already comfiscated the majority of weapons did they begin to raid homes in mass.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 26, 2009, 05:43:09 AM »

That day cannot come in this country legally under our constitution. If law breaking usurpers attempt this, they would be violating our constitution and our rights which is treason and a crime against the people. It is our obligation, as Americans to fight off these foreign usurping invaders to preserve the laws of this land and help support our government restore legal constitutional law.

Spanky · « **Reply #19 on:** December 26, 2009, 06:11:45 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on December 26, 2009, 05:43:09 AM

That day cannot come in this country legally under our constitution.

Sounds alot like our last presidential election. See what happened there don't you. $:-\$
Nowadays it seems to be a "make it up as you go" government.

Spanky

Cabin4 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 26, 2009, 06:44:51 AM »

A foriegn invasion is already underway. Usurpers are in control in many places of our government. The invasion and usurpers actions are slow but sure. In response, the people reaction will also be slow but sure once it begins.

beadlescomb · « **Reply #21 on:** December 26, 2009, 06:58:03 AM »

and everyone around here thinks im a nut because i have an entire gun safe slap full of assorted ammo and more in the closet but once the goverment tightens down who are they gonna be coming to when they start to run out

Black Eagle · « **Reply #22 on:** December 26, 2009, 07:15:10 AM »

A gun grab isn't going to happen in the forseeable future. There are 65 pro-gun democrats in the House and 8 in the Senate. It's pretty hard for a Democrat to be elected in most of the real West [California is not the real West] or in the South unless they are pro-gun. A heavy tax on gun ownership won't fly either. Even if SCOTUS hadn't decided Heller, confiscatory taxes generally won't withstand constitutional scrutiny. That especially won't happen if the taxes infringe on a constitutionally protected right. The biggest worry you have, at this point in time, is if SCOTUS refuses to incorporate the 2nd amendment into the due process clause of the 14th amendment. That would give local governments a free hand in regulating guns. If that happens, you can quit worrying about your gun rights from the federal government level and you'd better worry about them at the local and state level.

Sorry if I sound like some dirtbag constitutional lawyer but that's what I have been for 35 years and I can't change that.

Nevertheless, gear up for a gun rights fight at your state and local levels in case SCOTUS doesn't apply the doctrine of selective incorporation in our favor. This is interesting from a legal standpoint because conservative justices have never liked incorporating the amendments to the states and liberal justices, before Heller, wanted them all incorporated. I can't wait to watch these hairballs scramble to change horses in mid-stream.

MGMorden · « **Reply #23 on:** December 26, 2009, 10:02:00 AM »

Quote from: Cabin4 on December 26, 2009, 05:43:09 AM

That day cannot come in this country legally under our constitution. If law breaking usurpers attempt this, they would be violating our constitution and our rights which is treason and a crime against the people. It is our obligation, as Americans to fight off these foreign usurping invaders to preserve the laws of this land and help support our government restore legal constitutional law.

That won't stop them if they become determined enough. Constitutional amendments can be repealed by the act of an additional amendment.

The 21st Amendment to the constitution:

"The eighteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed."

If they get the public support they'll simply repeal the 2nd amendment with an additional one.

gypsyman · « **Reply #24 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:00:20 AM »

I have to agree with what was already posted. Very unlikely that there would be all out gun confiscation. If it would ever come to that, I'll give them one bullet at a time. gypsyman

Graybeard · « **Reply #25 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:02:12 AM »

Quote

If they get the public support they'll simply repeal the 2nd amendment with an additional one.

I believe that takes the approval of 37 states. That would NOT be easy to come by.

Black Eagle · « **Reply #26 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:25:13 AM »

It takes the approval of 37.5 states so that is, effectively, 38 states. [Article V]. It also takes the approval of 3/4 of the Senate and 3/4 of the House to send it to the states for approval. I can list 20 states off the top of my head, without even thinking hard, where it wouldn't have a snowman's chance of passing. At the moment, they couldn't get 40% of the members of Congress to go for it let alone 75%. I really doubt that they could muster more than 30% in Congress and probably less than 30% of the states.

beadlescomb · « **Reply #27 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:38:42 AM »

i believe a few years back they had a voluntary thing where you could bring in a gun and they would destroy it and maybe you got a tax credit or something along those lines just remembering seeing alot of guns melted down

Sourdough · « **Reply #28 on:** December 26, 2009, 11:53:20 AM »

Those folks in New Orleans did not think troops would take their guns either. Yes they eventually got them back, but at the time, and for months afterwards, they were defenseless.

We never expected an Illegal Alien to be president either. He can not, but he is.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #29 on:** December 26, 2009, 12:19:37 PM »

I don't think local police will come to try to take our guns. I think it will be feds of some sort, perhaps with an acorn affliation. obama has spoken of a civilian corps, stronger and better equipped than the military, does the term "Brownshirts" ring a bell?....<><....