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Offline Awf Hand

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Old Bayonet ID
« on: December 27, 2009, 10:39:18 AM »
I've got this old bayonet that I'm wanting to identify.

I know nothing of it's history and will eventually sell it.

Does anybody know what it is so I can begin to research it's value?

The scabbord says:
SMITH
MAKERS
HARTFORD, CONN

there is more, but it is unreadable.

Thanks in advance,

Dean
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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2009, 10:40:46 AM »
lug detail
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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2009, 10:41:58 AM »
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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2009, 10:45:45 AM »
The OAL is 20-3/4"  with the 'blade" being  17-1/2"

The profile is not a triangle, but is grooved on all sides.

A small letter "H" can be seen with another unidentifiable letter on the blade up near the lug.

That's about all that I know.

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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2009, 11:08:47 AM »
It's an old 1873 Springfield Trapdoor bayonet. Oooops, upon further examination, it's an 1855.http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/us1855sb.htm
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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2009, 08:54:26 AM »
That's the 3rd differing opinion I've gotten.

The Trapdoor bayonet has a much more blunt terminus to the groves, similar to a thumbnail.  Mine has a longer taper to this groove terminus.

The dimensions and scabbord style seem to fit a p-53 Enfield design.  Any thoughts on this ID??

http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/brit1853.htm

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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2009, 12:04:21 PM »
I once had a 1884 Trapdoor that had a slim 3 groove straight blade that resembled a long bladed phillips screwdriver.  That bayonet looks like something that would have come from a older Springfield pre or during Civil War years.  That is from extremely limited experience though.

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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2009, 01:46:30 PM »
That's the 3rd differing opinion I've gotten.

The Trapdoor bayonet has a much more blunt terminus to the groves, similar to a thumbnail.  Mine has a longer taper to this groove terminus.

The dimensions and scabbord style seem to fit a p-53 Enfield design.  Any thoughts on this ID??

http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/brit1853.htm

Thanks again.
I somehow don't think Enfields and their bayonets were made in Hartford Connecticut.
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Re: Old Bayonet ID
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2009, 01:50:26 PM »
Are you sure the bayonet belongs to the sheath?  It looks much like an Enfield bayonet, but as has been stated, they were not made in Conn.  The over the barrel bayonet is old, but could fit a bunch of weapons.  If it's Civil War era, could have some value. 
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