Ontario Canada gun regulations

[teddy12b]

It's been a while since I've read through the gun regs for Ontario Canada and I was curious about something.

I know the Remington 7400/750 rifles are legal, but I'm curious about the new Remington R-25 in 308 if the magazine was a four round mag.  It's still a semi auto detachable magazine, but you can never double check enough when it comes to gun regulations.

I don't own either rifle, but I'd like to.    Do you see where this is going?? 

Anyone know if the R-25 in 308 is legal for bear hunting in Ontario?

[Redhawk1]

http://www.panda.com/canadaguns/

[workin man]

AR's and AR variants are considered restricted firearms in Canada. This means with the appropriate license a Canadian can possess one, but they are only legal for use at government approved ranges, not for hunting. The 740, 742, 7400 and 750 are all legal, but you can't have a magazine that will hold more than 5 rounds.

Jim

[teddy12b]

AR's and AR variants are considered restricted firearms in Canada. This means with the appropriate license a Canadian can possess one, but they are only legal for use at government approved ranges, not for hunting. The 740, 742, 7400 and 750 are all legal, but you can't have a magazine that will hold more than 5 rounds.

Jim

That's what I thought.  I was just wishing it wasn't so.  I've been thinking about buying a 7400/750 for years and just never did it.  I might just go ahead and do it soon.  They make it in the 22" & 18.5" barrels so they're both legal, but I'd probably go with the longer of the two just because I don't want to leave any doubt when they pull out their tape measure. 

I appreciate the help guys.

[Redhawk1]

teddy12b, in there regs, they state factory length barrels are OK. I had a Ruger Frontier that had a 16.5 inch barrel, and I had no problem getting it in Canada.

Also I was never actually checked by anyone that wanted to see the guns, only the paperwork.

A buddy took my Browning BAR 300 Win Mag to Canada last year with a detachable mag. Semi-Autos are fine as long as no more than 5 rounds is held, as stated above.

[teddy12b]

I've taken guns to Canada on two trips.  The first trip we had the full blown inspection with guns out on the tables.  They pulled out yard sticks to check barrel lengths and I had to explain to them where the barrel ended in my rifle so they could have the right measurement.  We were there for around on hour give or take a little.  This is what makes me nervous about buying the 18 1/2" barreled gun across the border.  The second trip across they just asked for the paperwork and we were on our way in 15 minutes max.  Two completely different experiences with crossing the border, but it always makes me nervous regardless.

I'm amazed that you got across with that Frontier, because that 16.5" barrel is definately not legal.  How long ago was that?

I've been talking about buying either a 7400 or a 750 for so many years now I think I just need to just do it and get it over with.

[Redhawk1]

I've taken guns to Canada on two trips.  The first trip we had the full blown inspection with guns out on the tables.  They pulled out yard sticks to check barrel lengths and I had to explain to them where the barrel ended in my rifle so they could have the right measurement.  We were there for around on hour give or take a little.  This is what makes me nervous about buying the 18 1/2" barreled gun across the border.  The second trip across they just asked for the paperwork and we were on our way in 15 minutes max.  Two completely different experiences with crossing the border, but it always makes me nervous regardless.

I'm amazed that you got across with that Frontier, because that 16.5" barrel is definately not legal.  How long ago was that?

I've been talking about buying either a 7400 or a 750 for so many years now I think I just need to just do it and get it over with.

Indeed it is legal, it there regulations it stated if the barrel is a factory offering in and comes for the factory with a short barrel it is legal. 2 years ago is when It went through.

I took my Marlin Guide gun with a 18.5 inch barrel over as well, not one problem.

[drdougrx]

Fun read...I used to go to New Bruswick twice a year for about 10 years in the 80s-90's.  Bear in Spring, deer in fall.  One time the guy that drove had a suburban, in a rear wheel well he had a suede, in pant pistol holster...been there forever.  The young lady at the border at Houlton, ME, on the Canadian side saw it through the back window and we spent the next 5 hours having all of our belongings searched and opened as they searched for the illeagal handgun.  They even undid our socks!!!

Funny now...not so much then....

[Redhawk1]

CLASSES OF FIREARMS

PROHIBITED FIREARMS, DEVICES, AND WEAPONS

Prohibited firearms, devices, and weapons are:
full-automatic firearms
sawed-off rifles or shotguns with barrel length less than 457mm (18 inches); this does not apply to firearms manufactured with short barrels
sawed-off rifles or shotguns with overall length less than 660mm (26 inches); this does not apply to firearms manufactured with short stocks or short barrels
handguns with a barrel less than 105mm (4.14 inches), except certain specifically listed competition handguns which are restricted
handguns in caliber .25 or .32, except certain specifically listed competition handguns which are restricted
silencers
large capacity magazines for a semi-automatic center-fire firearm. What constitutes "large capacity" varies; as a general rule, the maximum capacity is 5 rounds for long guns, 10 rounds for handguns "commonly found in Canada", and 5 rounds for handguns "not commonly found in Canada." Magazines for rimfire cartridges, the 8-round clips used in the M1 Garand, and 10 round Lee Enfield rifle magazines are exempted by name from this prohibition.
any of a long list of firearms specifically listed as prohibited. With few exceptions, if it has a remotely military appearance, it is prohibited.
replicas of firearms
any type of Taser or other firearm that discharges a dart or other object carrying an electrical current.
tear gas, Mace or other gas, or any liquid spray, power or other substance that is capable of injuring, immobilizing or otherwise incapacitating any person
any type of stun gun or other electrical charge device of length less than 480mm
a large additional class of prohibited weapons, such as nunchakus, switchblades, brass knuckles, etc. which are not discussed here. Read the list here if you care.
That's right, you're not allowed to use non-lethal means of self-defense in Canada. This would seem to ban pepper spray for use against bears, but apparently there are some forms of bear spray which are legal for use in Canada.

[workin man]

Redhawk is correct regarding the 16.5" barrel being legal, as long as it was built that way and not cut down afterwards. It's not an uncommon misconception though. When I took my hunters safety course back in the 1980's, the course instructor told us all that Win 94 trappers (with the 16" barrels) were restricted weapons and not legal for hunting. Of all the people who should know better, you'd have thought he would.

Jim

[slim rem 7]

way to many regulations for me to even think about it. jmo slim

[teddy12b]

way to many regulations for me to even think about it. jmo slim

That's exactly why my first bear was in Maine.  I didn't want to mess with the regs at the border crossing.  The idea of a hunt 15 driving hours closer forced me into to researching it more and having crossed the border twice with guns now I don't think of it as a big deal anymore.  I was just hopein they changed a rule that would allow the R-25 in 308, but that didn't happen.