Author Topic: Lure's (Read 1714 times)

Northwoods · « **on:** December 30, 2009, 12:37:58 PM »

I know there has been a lot of talk about good lures. I thought I would mention what I think are some great lures I came across a few years ago. Stef Forget scents such as Cachottier and pikauba to name a few are top of the line. I do make my own and have tried many other brands but his stuff is hard to beat. Give it try if you're looking for something different.

mtbadger · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:20:58 PM »

Northwoods I am going out tomorrow to put in some cat sets....... I have some of Stefs lures (Pikauba, Cachottier, XLDC) I have heard good stuff about Stefs products so that is what I am going to use.... Hopefully I will have some bobs come the new year...

Northwoods · « **Reply #2 on:** December 31, 2009, 12:35:37 PM »

mtbadger, I think you'll be happy with the results. Another good thing about Stefs products is they are freeze proof which is a good thing here in Alaska.
Good luck and have a Happy New Year.

Bogmaster · « **Reply #3 on:** December 31, 2009, 04:13:28 PM »

Most lure makers I know--freezeproof their lures.Steff is not the only one that does it.
Tom

fishdaddy · « **Reply #4 on:** January 01, 2010, 05:45:20 PM »

i tried the Cachottier and the other one it was sposed to be a coon lure i had 2 set one lured with his coon lure and one baited with lennons fox all call and i could see the tracks in the snow where the coon walked right by stefs lure and went to the lennons more than once.you cant go wrong with lennons lure

Northwoods · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2010, 06:08:49 PM »

I can tell you most lure that is supposed to be freeze proof will freeze solid here in Alaska in my experience. We don't have any coon up here but Pikauba for lynx and Cachottier as a call for just about everything else work pretty darn good. I do agree you cant go wrong Lennons lure's I use it. For one reason or another an animal might not work a set but that doesen't necessarily mean it's the lure.

Bogmaster · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2010, 07:26:57 PM »

Just brought in some of lenons weasel lure and some of my beaver lures.-27 degrees and they were not frozen.
Being from Minnesota I know about cold temps, so when I make my beaver lures(which are also used for cats and canines by a lot of my customers)I make sure they can stand up to cold.Now I can't say about 40 below--as we haven't been that cold for a while--but it seems like I have -30 covered.
Tom

fishdaddy · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2010, 04:57:43 AM »

Quote from: northwoods on January 03, 2010, 06:08:49 PM

I can tell you most lure that is supposed to be freeze proof will freeze solid here in Alaska in my experience. We don't have any coon up here but Pikauba for lynx and Cachottier as a call for just about everything else work pretty darn good. I do agree you cant go wrong Lennons lure's I use it. For one reason or another an animal might not work a set but that doesen't necessarily mean it's the lure.

i would agree with you if it had not happened more than once

trappnman · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2010, 06:11:24 AM »

Stefs ProCoon, just was used on a program for rabies the past two summers, in cage traps, In Quebec. 25,000 coon later- i'd say it works.

agreed northwoods- pikubua and cachottier, are two of the better lures out there. I've used Toms beaver lures, and they work pretty darn good as well.

There are 2 cat programs ongoing in CO, and both use pikubua as their #1 lure, and have for past 4 years.

Northwoods · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2010, 06:56:21 PM »

Tom, sounds like you have a good lure there I'd Like to give them a try. I am aware that other brands say they are freeze proof but I've come across damn few I didn't have to doctor up with glycol to use. It can and does get colder then -40 here. I've seen it never warm up past -30 or -40 for weeks at a time. Coldest so far at my place -65. Pain in the but to tell you truth but we deal with it.

fishdaddy · « **Reply #10 on:** January 04, 2010, 07:18:41 PM »

Quote from: trappnman on January 04, 2010, 06:11:24 AM

Stefs ProCoon, just was used on a program for rabies the past two summers, in cage traps, In Quebec. 25,000 coon later- i'd say it works.

agreed northwoods- pikubua and cachottier, are two of the better lures out there. I've used Toms beaver lures, and they work pretty darn good as well.

There are 2 cat programs ongoing in CO, and both use pikubua as their #1 lure, and have for past 4 years.

your saying 25.000 coon in two summers? in cages? this coming from a guy that sells the lure.i would have to see some proof of that.

Northwoods · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2010, 08:14:55 PM »

Fishdaddy, Do you just like to argue or do you have nothing better to do? Look this isn't just hear say I've done pretty darn good on Stef's lure's. I never used Procoon I will say. Use it don't use it I really don't give a damn. You come on a thread that I started and tell people that these lure's are no good and to use something else. You can have your opinions but I sure don't remember asking you for it or you're advice..

fishdaddy · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2010, 05:02:40 AM »

you posted your opinion i posted mine from experience so if you think thats arguing then believe what you want its a free country if you dont like my posts dont read them.seems like your wanting to argue tsk tsk.
and 25 thousand coon in 2 summers in cages come on

fishdaddy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2010, 05:05:54 AM »

and i reread my posts and i cant seem to find anywheres that i told people not to use them..

trappnman · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2010, 03:23:13 AM »

rabies program by a bunch of Quebec trappers- lots of them- working full time for months on end, doing nothing but cage trapping raccoons over a 2 year period. if you have no knowledge of this, thats too bad, but your lack of knowledge means little to the actual occurrance.

as far as your having little success- one then wonders- whats your total success for a year? a decade? a lifetime?

northwoods- you need to remember, those that can't dance, often blame the dance floor............

Bogmaster · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:08:46 AM »

From what I have gathered over the years, not all lures work as well in certain parts of the country as in others.
Before I came out with my MoundMaster beaver lures, I used dozens of those by other makers,and some of the most talked about beaver lures did not work well for me.And some that did,I burned out in very short order
One of the reasons I make my own--I can do what I think needs to be done to them--to keep them working effecively.I make mine a gallon at a time, this process,while time consuming--has served me well.
So when a trapper says some lures do not work well in their area, you have to take them at their word.
Tom

fishdaddy · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:28:51 AM »

Quote from: trappnman on January 06, 2010, 03:23:13 AM

rabies program by a bunch of Quebec trappers- lots of them- working full time for months on end, doing nothing but cage trapping raccoons over a 2 year period. if you have no knowledge of this, thats too bad, but your lack of knowledge means little to the actual occurrance.

as far as your having little success- one then wonders- whats your total success for a year? a decade? a lifetime?

northwoods- you need to remember, those that can't dance, often blame the dance floor............

now your back peddling 2 year peroid or 2 summers? how many trappers i look on the web and all i could find was where they droped the oral vaccines in the late 90s..and i ment that the procoon didnt work for me and no im not the greatest trapper my best year for coon was 92 in ohio mostly all on lennons lure none on procoon..a 1 night catch on lennons with 2 doz. traps had one pull out.this was in ohio not many coon where im at now.

trappnman · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:06:36 AM »

you didn't USE procoon in Ohio, now did you?

from april to october- all full time trappers working on the project-call it 2 summers, call it 2 years call it whatever floats your boat-

fishdaddy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:43:42 AM »

yes in ohio only place i ever used it bought some of that catchottier stuff to its a decent lure got a real strong oder to it even know another trapper that used the procoon in ohio and had the same results as me..seen tracks in the snow passed up the procoon more than once for lennons.me and the other trapper posted the results on your forum a long time ago.im sure you could find the post.

fishdaddy · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:44:14 AM »

Quote from: trappnman on January 06, 2010, 09:06:36 AM

you didn't USE procoon in Ohio, now did you?

from april to october- all full time trappers working on the project-call it 2 summers, call it 2 years call it whatever floats your boat-

your a good dancer i see

trappnman · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2010, 10:48:39 AM »

whatever-

over past 2 years, past 2 summers, past two seaosns- call it whatever you want-the point, since you need to be told it over and over- is that the entire program, used procoon in cages, and all the trappers in that program, caught that many coon-

you calling ME a liar? or stef?

fishdaddy · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2010, 11:14:33 AM »

not calling anyone a lier just saying i couldnt find it on the web just going by what you say..but you did see my post to you here a while back

mtbadger · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2010, 05:31:11 PM »

So if its not on the web its a lie?

Bogmaster · « **Reply #23 on:** January 06, 2010, 06:40:40 PM »

Thats as far as this post is going to go. Always liked how few real disagreements we have had on here. Time to get on to other things and quit the squabbling.
Tom