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Offline Steve Ruchala

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221 fire ball
« on: October 27, 2003, 12:22:40 PM »
I am looking for load data for the fire ball.  If any one has information using lil' gun it would be great.  I tried going directly to the hodgen  site but i am blocked.  Thanks
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Straight from Hodgdon's site
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2003, 03:07:48 PM »
This should do it:


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BULLET POWDER GR VEL PRESSURE

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221 FIREBALL
 CASE: REMINGTON
 
BBL: 24"
 PR: REMINGTON 7 1/2
 
TWIST: 1:14" TRIM: 1.390"
 
 
 
35 GR. HDY V-MAX (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.745"
 
 H4198 18.0 3056 31,900 CUP
 
 H4227 14.8 3110 37,500 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.0 3354 47,200 CUP
 
35 GR. HDY V-MAX (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.745"
 
 H4198 20.0C 3423 44,700 CUP
 
 H4227 16.5 3403 50,600 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 16.0 3535 49,900 CUP
 
 
 
40 GR. NOS BT (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 20.0 2782 31,500 CUP
 
 H322 19.7 2883 33,200 CUP  
 H4198 17.0 2851 30,000 CUP  
 H4227 14.5 3042 43,100 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.5 3172 42,100 CUP
 
40 GR. NOS BT (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 22.0 3048 41,200 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 3087 39,100 CUP  
 H4198 19.0C 3195 40,300 CUP  
 H4227 16.0 3251 50,200 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 16.0 3384 48,900 CUP
 
 
 
45 GR. BAR X (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.8 2783 36,300 CUP  
 H322 19.0 2762 31,600 CUP  
 H4198 17.6 2934 37,200 CUP
 
 H4227 13.8 2848 43,500 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.4 2944 41,400 CUP
 
45 GR. BAR X (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 22.0 3077 50,000 CUP  
 H322 20.5C 2978 39,900 CUP  
 H4198 19.5C 3184 46,500 CUP
 
 H4227 15.3 3015 48,600 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.9 3155 49,400 CUP
 
 
 
45 GR. SIE SPT (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.800"
 
 H335 20.0 2740 32,600 CUP
 
 H322 19.0 2767 31,400 CUP  
 H4198 17.5 2851 31,700 CUP  
 H4227 14.0 2872 40,900 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.8 2964 39,300 CUP
 
45 GR. SIE SPT (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.800"
 
 H335 22.0 3030 44,300 CUP
 
 H322 20.5C 2955 37,000 CUP  
 H4198 19.5C 3178 43,700 CUP  
 H4227 15.7 3078 49,100 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 15.3 3202 49,000 CUP
 
 
 
50 GR. SPR TNT HP (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.8 2674 33,100 CUP
 
 H322 19.0 2703 31,600 CUP  
 H4198 16.5 2661 27,800 CUP
 
 H4227 13.0 2629 36,500 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.0 2835 43,400 CUP
 
50 GR. SPR TNT HP (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 22.0 3041 48,600 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 2968 40,100 CUP  
 H4198 18.5C 2996 40,800 CUP
 
 H4227 14.8 2901 51,200 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.6 2994 48,200 CUP
 
 
 
52 GR. SIE HPBT (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.6 2662 35,500 CUP
 
 H322 18.9 2693 35,100 CUP  
 H4198 16.7 2692 33,700 CUP
 
 H4227 13.0 2612 40,900 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.0 2768 43,200 CUP
 
52 GR. SIE HPBT (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 21.8 2958 48,200 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 2987 46,800 CUP  
 H4198 18.5C 2967 45,300 CUP
 
 H4227 14.5 2798 48,100 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.5 2951 48,800 CUP
 
 
 
55 GR. HDY SPSX (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.3 2602 36,700 CUP
 
 H322 18.9 2681 36,000 CUP  
 H4198 16.7 2655 34,100 CUP  
 H4227 13.5 2643 48,100 CUP  
 LIL'GUN 13.0 2714 45,200 CUP
 
55 GR. HDY SPSX (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 21.5 2891 49,400 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 2944 48,200 CUP  
 H4198 18.5 2922 46,800 CUP  
 H4227 14.5 2742 49,300 CUP  
 LIL'GUN 14.5 2877 49,800 CUP
 
 
 
C = Compressed Charge
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221 fire ball
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2003, 03:45:56 AM »
Thanks,  that will be very helpful.
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221 fire ball
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2003, 04:31:26 AM »
I don't know what you're shooting it in, but my contender has a 1:14 twist and likes the lighter bullets. Favorite though is Speer 50 grain TNT with IMR 4198.  (Not H4198).
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Re: Straight from Hodgdon's site
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2003, 05:14:15 AM »
Quote from: Varmint Hunter
This should do it:
 :D was wandering if you have ever tryed N-130 or AA-2015 in your FB. Rod

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BULLET POWDER GR VEL PRESSURE

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221 FIREBALL
 CASE: REMINGTON
 
BBL: 24"
 PR: REMINGTON 7 1/2
 
TWIST: 1:14" TRIM: 1.390"
 
 
 
35 GR. HDY V-MAX (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.745"
 
 H4198 18.0 3056 31,900 CUP
 
 H4227 14.8 3110 37,500 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.0 3354 47,200 CUP
 
35 GR. HDY V-MAX (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.745"
 
 H4198 20.0C 3423 44,700 CUP
 
 H4227 16.5 3403 50,600 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 16.0 3535 49,900 CUP
 
 
 
40 GR. NOS BT (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 20.0 2782 31,500 CUP
 
 H322 19.7 2883 33,200 CUP  
 H4198 17.0 2851 30,000 CUP  
 H4227 14.5 3042 43,100 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.5 3172 42,100 CUP
 
40 GR. NOS BT (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 22.0 3048 41,200 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 3087 39,100 CUP  
 H4198 19.0C 3195 40,300 CUP  
 H4227 16.0 3251 50,200 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 16.0 3384 48,900 CUP
 
 
 
45 GR. BAR X (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.8 2783 36,300 CUP  
 H322 19.0 2762 31,600 CUP  
 H4198 17.6 2934 37,200 CUP
 
 H4227 13.8 2848 43,500 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.4 2944 41,400 CUP
 
45 GR. BAR X (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 22.0 3077 50,000 CUP  
 H322 20.5C 2978 39,900 CUP  
 H4198 19.5C 3184 46,500 CUP
 
 H4227 15.3 3015 48,600 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.9 3155 49,400 CUP
 
 
 
45 GR. SIE SPT (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.800"
 
 H335 20.0 2740 32,600 CUP
 
 H322 19.0 2767 31,400 CUP  
 H4198 17.5 2851 31,700 CUP  
 H4227 14.0 2872 40,900 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.8 2964 39,300 CUP
 
45 GR. SIE SPT (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.800"
 
 H335 22.0 3030 44,300 CUP
 
 H322 20.5C 2955 37,000 CUP  
 H4198 19.5C 3178 43,700 CUP  
 H4227 15.7 3078 49,100 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 15.3 3202 49,000 CUP
 
 
 
50 GR. SPR TNT HP (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.8 2674 33,100 CUP
 
 H322 19.0 2703 31,600 CUP  
 H4198 16.5 2661 27,800 CUP
 
 H4227 13.0 2629 36,500 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.0 2835 43,400 CUP
 
50 GR. SPR TNT HP (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 22.0 3041 48,600 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 2968 40,100 CUP  
 H4198 18.5C 2996 40,800 CUP
 
 H4227 14.8 2901 51,200 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.6 2994 48,200 CUP
 
 
 
52 GR. SIE HPBT (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.6 2662 35,500 CUP
 
 H322 18.9 2693 35,100 CUP  
 H4198 16.7 2692 33,700 CUP
 
 H4227 13.0 2612 40,900 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 13.0 2768 43,200 CUP
 
52 GR. SIE HPBT (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 21.8 2958 48,200 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 2987 46,800 CUP  
 H4198 18.5C 2967 45,300 CUP
 
 H4227 14.5 2798 48,100 CUP
 
 LIL'GUN 14.5 2951 48,800 CUP
 
 
 
55 GR. HDY SPSX (Starting Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 19.3 2602 36,700 CUP
 
 H322 18.9 2681 36,000 CUP  
 H4198 16.7 2655 34,100 CUP  
 H4227 13.5 2643 48,100 CUP  
 LIL'GUN 13.0 2714 45,200 CUP
 
55 GR. HDY SPSX (Maximum Loads)
 DIA. .224
 COL: 1.830"
 
 H335 21.5 2891 49,400 CUP
 
 H322 21.0C 2944 48,200 CUP  
 H4198 18.5 2922 46,800 CUP  
 H4227 14.5 2742 49,300 CUP  
 LIL'GUN 14.5 2877 49,800 CUP
 
 
 
C = Compressed Charge
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