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Offline john keyes

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6.5 Remington Magnum
« on: December 30, 2009, 05:27:38 PM »
okay...
-brass and rifles impossible to find (besides the 673 which I understand is impossible to mount a scope on)
-magazine too short to reap benefits of longer COL's

besides all that, seems like a cool round to me

anybody got any stories about em?
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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2009, 05:35:34 PM »
Brother was just bragging about his.  He just got his back from the gunsmith and made a trip to the range.  Says he was shooting Hornady SST bullets.  He thought he had a problem so he started spacing rounds to the right.  No problem first rounds very tight group.  Says it is one of the most accurate rifles he has.  I believe he bought a bunch of brass from Huntington for it.

He does not bother to use his Chrony so no real velocity data.
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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2009, 02:08:20 AM »
i bought the 6.5 in the 673 and it is a very pleasant shooting rifle. i had no problems mounting the scope. i beleive i got remington brass from midway u.s.a. i am shooting 120 sierras and 120 barnes x bullets. the sierras shoot under an inch at 100 at about 3000fps. the barnes at 3100 for deer. my gun doesnt seem to like the 140 grain but i never tried to hard to find a load. ed k

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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 06:32:16 AM »
Okay I am a .270 Winchester guy, but the 6.5 Remington Magnum has been on my wish list.  I passed on some good deals back in the 1970's because I want a rifle with a 22 or 24-inch barrel, not a carbine.

I am a little jealous of my brother's rifle.  But to play one must pay.

I just passed my 6.5x55 on.  I was very impressed with the accuracy of the .264 diameter bullet.  The 140-grain Nosler PT proved to be a slam, bang, knock-em down item on deer.  Knowing what it did at 2550 f.p.s. second out of that rifle has me thinking it would be a deadly long range item at 2800-2900 f.p.s.

A short barrel rifle puts the 6.5 Remington Magnum back in the 6.5x55 and 260 Remington neighborhood.  I had what I believe was a 660 Magnum in my hands at a sell-off price and I passed.  Good, but not at its best for the cost; Just my opinion.  I passed on the Model 660, but the 673 with a 22-inch barrel is a fit. 
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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2010, 09:34:24 AM »
I don't know much about the 6.5 Rem Mag, but everyone who uses it claims that it kills like Thor's hammer on deer.  Personally I see no improvement over the .270 WCF.  But for someone who's hooked on .264" bullets it's an interesting round.  I like the idea in a medium length mil surp '98 mauser so you can seat the bullets out and have a long OAL.  Would this be any better than a 6.5-06?  Probably not, but fun to contemplate.   

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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2010, 09:36:13 AM »
Okay I am a .270 Winchester guy, but the 6.5 Remington Magnum has been on my wish list.  I passed on some good deals back in the 1970's because I want a rifle with a 22 or 24-inch barrel, not a carbine.

I just passed my 6.5x55 on.  I was very impressed with the accuracy of the .264 diameter bullet.  The 140-grain Nosler PT proved to be a slam, bang, knock-em down item on deer.  Knowing what it did at 2550 f.p.s. second out of that rifle has me thinking it would be a deadly long range item at 2800-2900 f.p.s.


Siskoyu:  Was the 6.5x55 /150 Nos. Part. any better than the .270?  Was its performance any different?  Please elaborate. I enjoy your posts and experiences and would value your observations and opinions on this issue.  BTW, Happy New Year!

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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2010, 12:33:57 PM »
I don't know about the 6,5 Rem Mag but I shoot the 6.5X55 Swede and the 264 Win mag. The 6,5X55 is a sported 96 Swede Mauser with the 29" barrel and I get 3000 fps with 120 gr Nos BT and 2800 fps with 140 Sierra SP's and they will thump a deer waaaaaay out there. The 264 Mag is a 700 Rem with a 27 3/4" Shilen barrel and it will send a 130 Nos AB 3350 fps and it shoots like a laser beam out to 400 yards and really thumps a deer.

The 6.5 Rem Mag has about the same case capacity as the 6.5-06 but will work through a short action. I would not go with a barrel less than 24". A 6.5-284 makes a lot more since. Better brass and no belt to fool with.

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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2010, 05:56:53 PM »

Igm270 your question is as tough as one being asked by a father having just caught you dating his twin daughters.  Well boy which one do you like best?

While the 6.5 cartridges with 30-06 case capacity are paternal twins to the .270 Winchester at reasonable deer hunting ranges, the 6.5x55 as I know it has a couple different faces.  The original model is rated at a lower pressure.  The new rifles such as the Model 70 Winchester, M98 actions, and Ruger 77 can take advantage of the case capacity.  I loaded my Model 96 Swede at the maximum published data.  But my deer hunting load consisted of military ammunition which the FMJ was pulled and replaced.  These averaged 2550 fps over the Chrony.  My full handload consisted of new Winchester Brass, WW primers, and H4831.  Velocity average 2600 fps at 15-feet over my Chrony at 6700 foot elevation. 

I have read a lot of arguments about loading hotter for the Model 96 but I was happy at that point.  Had I been loading for a Winchester Model 70 or a Mark X I would have pushed on.

6.5 fever is one of those things that a doctor cannot cure, unless he gives you money to buy the next 6.5.  My brother has it bad and I can only remember some of his 6.5 rifles, 6.5-250-3000, 6.5 x 55, 256 Newton, 6.5-284 Winchester.  He also has a couple of 270 rifles.


It was not until late in my deer hunting career that I used Nosler Partitions on deer.  I think the focus has always been on the dependable penetration they provide.  Two older calibers that I have had satisfaction when using the Nosler Partition is the 6.5x55, 140-grain and the 165-grain in the 300 Savage.  It has been my observation that the rapidly opening Nosler Partition creates a lot of damage on entering and then penetrates deep or exits.  I like it.



I have played the bullet game with .264 and .277 bullets on the computer.  When launched at the same velocity with bullet “A” the .277 wins, with bullet “B” the .264 wins.  When the .264 and the same .277 bullet are launch at the same velocity they are next to each other on a shoestring.  If I plug the 6.5x55 in at 2550 fps on the same screen it’s performance does not come close to a 6.5 in a -06 capacity case or the 270 Winchester.

When it comes to the care and feeding of the 6.5x55, the 6.5-06, the 6.5 Remington Magnum and the 6.5-284 the bullets cost more, and new brass cost more.  You will save some money using -06 brass to make 6.5-06 brass.

Does the 140-grain Nosler PT at 2550 outperform a 150-grain Hornady or a 140-grain Hornady BT out of my rifle.  I do not have a good answer based on field trails.  I need to shoot a few hundred deer this winter.  I have published this before; I shot a buck a couple years ago right behind the front shoulder with one of my .270’s.  The bullet hit a rib and created a 3” inch shape entrance hole inside the rib cage, took out a lung, damage another lung, and put a two inch exit hole going out the opposite shoulder.  On impact I watched hide ripple along the deer.  The deer took off like a bolt of lightning and was quickly out of sight.  After looking at the damage I was amazed the deer did not drop on impact.



Defining the deference between two different calibers is an interesting task, at the same time I am playing with paternal triplets.  That is three different .270 Winchesters and use different loads in two of the three.  One has a slow barrel but has proven itself on deer, or is that why the buck ran after being hit.  I keep thinking about buying a 24-inch take off barrel for it to gain back the lose velocity, but why?

The physiology of the critter shot is a major factor in the outcome.

I delivered the 6.5X55 to the son-in-law there are some young granddaughters that have an interest in shooting.  Along with it were a few hundred rounds of ammunition.  The recoil is lighter than my .270 rifles and they know it is effective because they have seen the buck in the bed of the pickup.  They will have to wait for a 270 until I can no longer hunt, or I am pushing up daisies!

Given equal case capacity which one do you think is better?
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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2010, 12:19:40 AM »
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When it comes to the care and feeding of the 6.5x55, the 6.5-06, the 6.5 Remington Magnum and the 6.5-284 the bullets cost more, and new brass cost more.  You will save some money using -06 brass to make 6.5-06 brass.
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Making 6.5-06 brass from .25-06 brass is as simple as running it through a sizing die.  Use larger -06 cases and you might need to ream the necks.

My 6.5-06 is an Ackley configuration which requires fire-forming, for which I use Hornady’s max 140g A-MAX 6.5-06 load for H4831 over CCI 250 primers in WW .25-06 cases.   This load, while slower than the standard 6.5-06, is very accurate  (I am 2 for 5 at clay pigeons on the 600-yard berm using these fire form loads). 

Haven’t had a chance to shoot any of the loads I intend to use for hunting (130g Scirocco, BC .571), but I am expecting over 3200fps with them using 7828SSC.  IF I get there the 6.5-06AI will be right with my 7mm RM at extended ranges (800 yrds) but with less recoil and powder.
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Re: 6.5 Remington Magnum
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2010, 06:18:08 AM »
I have a 6.5-06 AI as well and it's my antelope rifle. [It's a heavy barreled rifle and I set it up with a Harris bi-pod when I hunt antelope.] I neck down .30-06 brass in two steps.  I do this because I have to turn necks but it allows me to control neck wall thickness. I don't think I really gain anything by controlling neck wall thickness but it makes me feel better. My only objection to the 6.5-06 AI, and the .264 WM, is that they require a 26" barrel whereas I can get the same, or better velocities with bullets of equal weight out of a shorter barreled .270 Win. But, the accuracy of my .270s, although sub-MOA, is not as good as the 6.5-06 AI and that little difference can be a big difference when the antelope are way out there.