Author Topic: 17 mach2 $$ ?? (Read 1780 times)

handirandy · « **on:** January 01, 2010, 06:22:32 AM »

Was in a gun shop in AR last week. They had a used Sportster in a 17 HM2 with a 4x Tasco scope for $189. What you think?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2010, 08:20:49 AM »

I paid $130 new for mine when they were in production, but considering they don't make it any more, it's worth what ever someone is willing to pay for it, that doesn't sound unreasonable to me for a discontinued H&R.

Tim

preventec47 · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2010, 02:43:38 AM »

Its a shame but I was just looking in a vendor encyclopedia catalog
the other day and I searched for any rifle or pistol in current production
in HM2 and there were not any. There is no HM2 ammo being produced
either. I think the only reason it failed is the ammo makers tried
to gouge the public and they said no way. I'm kinda sorry about that
as I would have liked to play with one some day. Now, due to scaricity
the ammo price of what ever is out there is going to be more than
the HMR or 22mag.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2010, 02:48:39 AM »

Quote from: preventec47 link=topic=194157.msg 1098985232#msg 1098985232 date=1262526218

Its a shame but I was just looking in a vendor encyclopedia catalog
the other day and I searched for any rifle or pistol in current production
in HM2 and there were not any. There is no HM2 ammo being produced
either. I think the only reason it failed is the ammo makers tried
to gouge the public and they said no way. I'm kinda sorry about that
as I would have liked to play with one some day. Now, due to scarcity
the ammo price of what ever is out there is going to be more than
the HMR or 22mag.

Your saying that the ammo has been discontinued???
I had the last week off from work and I can honestly tell you that EVERY SINGLE store I went in, (at least a dozen) had it in stock. Some many layers deep of 17M2 ammo... Even Cabelas who is VERY picked over. As for price, its ranging from $5.99 to $9.99 for 50, right in line with ALL RF ammo... (I don't buy the junk Walmart sells in milk cartons. I have cleaned too many guns ruined with this junk.)

Now I know H&R discontinued the caliber. But AMMO discontinuation by at least three different MAJOR manufacturers is another story entirely...

quickdtoo · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2010, 05:03:18 AM »

It appears Remington and Federal no long offer 17M2 ammo, but CCI, Hornady and Eley still do.

Tim

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/varmint.aspx

http://www.hornady.com/store/17-Mach-2/

http://www.eley.co.uk/ammunition/products/17-mach-2.aspx

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=134258

preventec47 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2010, 05:44:06 AM »

Thanks for the correction. I guess you cant believe everything you hear.

wreckhog · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2010, 06:57:34 AM »

Quote from: preventec47 on January 03, 2010, 02:43:38 AM

Its a shame but I was just looking in a vendor encyclopedia catalog
the other day and I searched for any rifle or pistol in current production
in HM2 and there were not any. There is no HM2 ammo being produced
either. I think the only reason it failed is the ammo makers tried
to gouge the public and they said no way. I'm kinda sorry about that
as I would have liked to play with one some day. Now, due to scaricity
the ammo price of what ever is out there is going to be more than
the HMR or 22mag.

SportSouth has the pencil barrel MkII in stock.

http://www.internetguncatalog.com/Default.aspx?tabid=179

cwlongshot · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2010, 09:00:27 AM »

Quote from: quickdtoo on January 03, 2010, 05:03:18 AM

It appears Remington and Federal no long offer 17M2 ammo, but CCI, Hornady and Eley still do.

Tim

http://www.cci-ammunition.com/products/varmint.aspx

http://www.hornady.com/store/17-Mach-2/

http://www.eley.co.uk/ammunition/products/17-mach-2.aspx

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=134258

Remington NO but ELEY Yes?? Dosen't Remington own ELEY?

quickdtoo · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2010, 11:12:06 AM »

I dunno, it's been a long time since I was up on Eley and Rem tech, I think Rem only owns or uses the Eley priming technology. I also have a sneaking suspicion that Eley 17M2 ammo may be the next one to disappear, it's not listed in their 2010 product catalog, and the date of their 17M2 page is going on 2 years old, they may just be listing it to promote the sale of the existing inventory. $:-\$

Tim

wreckhog · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2010, 11:50:24 AM »

Hornady has new ammo coming out.

http://www.hornady.com/store/NTX-newammo/

Otherwise the 17 grain V-Max is the same bullet (with different color tips) in every manufacturer's cartridge. Remington/Eley are supposed to be the same stuff (with typical lot number differences) and hotter relative to the rest. Hornady and CCI where supposed to be so so after the first few lots. Peoiple pay tiny premium for those lots.

At the 8 cents a round (and sometime 6 cents) I was paying a couple of months ago for Remingtion or Eley, that was not too bad just for a quality V-Max bullet.

PHATINJUN · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2010, 02:45:06 PM »

So Wreckhog are you saying the first stuff from Hornady may be a little better ammo? Reason I ask is when it first came out and I got my first MII I bought 5K rounds for a very good price shipped to my house and after it got there I noticed that all the boxes are stamped "first run" ammo have had no issues with it just had never seen that stamped on the box before and compared to what it runs these day I got a hell of a deal. Kurt

navylawdog · « **Reply #11 on:** January 04, 2010, 08:03:53 AM »

Darn! Looks like I will have to do some stocking up on M2 rounds. The supply is getting a little bit low. I just hate it when that happens.

Navylawdog

cwlongshot · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2010, 11:18:00 AM »

Quote from: navylawdog link=topic=194157.msg 1098986622#msg 1098986622 date=1262631833

Darn! Looks like I will have to do some stocking up on M2 rounds. The supply is getting a little bit low. I just hate it when that happens.

Navy Lawdog

Same here... I have about brick and a half, but if its not gonna be available, I'll need ALLOT MORE!!!

CW

trotterlg · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2010, 04:15:16 PM »

I think one of the killers of this ammo is the recall of simiauto rifles that are chambered for it. I don't know if you have followed this, but they are saying don't shoot these things no matter whose ammo you use. Seems they are getting a lot of the ammo fireing when it is being chambered and bofore the bolt closes. Larry

wreckhog · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2010, 04:36:46 PM »

Quote from: trotterlg on January 04, 2010, 04:15:16 PM

I think one of the killers of this ammo is the recall of simiauto rifles that are chambered for it. I don't know if you have followed this, but they are saying don't shoot these things no matter whose ammo you use. Seems they are getting a lot of the ammo fireing when it is being chambered and bofore the bolt closes. Larry

They recalled semis in .17HMR, not .17M2. I think that any factory .17M2 semis died a natural death some time ago.

navylawdog · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:59:21 AM »

I wonder why that is? The rounds weren't all that expensive to start out with and I know mine is a heck of a shooter for a cheap savage MKII I bought on a whim at Dick's.

Navylawdog

notnodak · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2010, 08:16:25 PM »

The .17HM2 is alive and running in my house. I have a custom Savage FV and about 4000rnds of Eley. I'll be good for many years to come, especially when you only need one shot with this "little puprle pill". People have been trying to predict this little rounds demise for years but it just keeps going. I firmly believe that if the HM2 came out before the HMR we would all be using it and have many many many semi's out their. Just look at a few converted 10/22's. Rimfire Technologies just released a new High end barrel for it that claims outstanding accuracy. Put all of that on top of getting very similar performance to a HMR at 1/2 the cost still today, It'll be here next year, the year after, etc

Oldshooter · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2010, 11:01:18 PM »

You guys are hurting my feelings!

All this talk of the demise of mach II, Is scaring me. I love my little converted 10-22, I was shooting it yesterday at 100 yards and it is a great lil rifle. I rarely take out my 39 A or browning 22's anymore. Been scared for the ammo thing tho cause it just costs to much, Hope it does. Gotta go order some more,asap !

navylawdog · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:36:04 AM »

I think if I had a 39A I would still be taking it out quite a bit. I love those things but they are anything but affordable these days.

Navylawdog

Oldshooter · « **Reply #19 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:47:50 AM »

Quote from: navylawdog on January 06, 2010, 08:36:04 AM

I think if I had a 39A I would still be taking it out quite a bit. I love those things but they are anything but affordable these days.

Navylawdog

Yep mine's a closet queen now! I do still shoot it at times, especially when a son comes over to test my skills. We stack up 223 brass(steel) and "shoot till ya miss" this is at 25 to 30 yards, my eyes are failing but my peep keeps me competitive! But the Mach II with the 3 to 9 scope will head shoot varmits out past 100 yds with deadly consistancy!

ironglow · « **Reply #20 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:52:06 AM »

  It does concern me that the .17 M2 may be coming to a close, but rather than the problems faced by the old 5mm Rem owners, there should be some answers .
   If you have a 10/22 and the .17 M2 ammo peters out..why can't a fellow just use that opportunity to install either one of the stock .22 LR barrels floating around or go to a .920 barrel ?

   If you have a Rossi, H&R or other single shot model, surely some smart supplier will furnish a reamer to convert to .17 HMR. Same could hold true for those bolt guns which are strong enough to handle the HMR.

Oldshooter · « **Reply #21 on:** January 06, 2010, 08:55:13 AM »

Lucky for me Pete, I still have my 10/22 stock and barrel, but if mach 2 goes away I'll really miss it! So I am gonna go order more of it to last me until I leave!

ironglow · « **Reply #22 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:59:44 PM »

I'm sure you will Oldshooter, I never happened to acquire a .17 M2, but I understand they are a lot of fun... Sometimes I wish I had gotten one.

1 farmer · « **Reply #23 on:** January 07, 2010, 08:10:02 AM »

I paid $170 for my NEF 17M2 new. But I would've give $200 for it I like it that much. I also have a NEF HMR but I realy like shooting the M2 plus ammo is cheaper. Its been going up in price but so has the HMR. Its a very accurate gun. I would by it.
I got a sale flyer today from Cabelas they have CCI 17M2 on sale for $5.99. I looked on the web and it doesnt show its on sale so I made a phone call and with the flyer item number it is. I have never shot CCI ammo but I bought a few boxes to try. Plus they have $20 off $100 purchase available wich helps on the price. Localy Ammo is $9 a box plus 6% tax.