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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2010, 12:18:26 PM »
In the early 1980s a fellow in a bar in Pensacola was shot 17 times with a .22 rifle at close range.  He recovered.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2010, 12:48:44 PM »
And a magnanimous post it is, sacrificing himself for our pleasure, one could say almost Christ like. ;D
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2010, 12:48:57 PM »
A guy I used to know was killed with a single shot from a 22 rifle. Same guy survived multiple wounds from a 25 acp and drove himself to the hospital. Granted, neither of these rounds is extremely powerful. Guess it just depends on where you are hit.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2010, 01:07:20 PM »
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A guy I used to know was killed with a single shot from a 22 rifle. Same guy survived multiple wounds from a 25 acp and drove himself to the hospital. Granted, neither of these rounds is extremely powerful. Guess it just depends on where you are hit.
sounds like that guy had a habit of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.   

 atlaw....if'n your friends aint picking on ya, they probably dont like ya much.  lol.  oh yeah....and your a white man.   ;D
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2010, 01:11:07 PM »
Of course it depends on where your hit. It would depend on where your hit, if you were hit by a truck.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2010, 02:31:22 PM »
Anyone who has ever fired a cap and ball revolver realizes they are not tremendously powerful, but there are graveyards that owe their exhistence to them.  Suffice it to say a lot of men were killed by sticks with rocks on the end shot from a stick with a string across it.  We can argue effectiveness of various calibers until we are all blue in the face, but at any given time, any of them will kill, or perhaps none of them......
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2010, 04:18:06 PM »
I can for sure see the jest in this especially with it being a lawyer.
But coming from someone who has been shot at with .22s,
it didn't even register until afterwards that it was a small
caliber weapon being fired at me. 2 and possibly 3 men
were doing the shooting with .22 cal. rifles and after it was over
we collected 42 shell casings. I never got off a shot. If not for an associate
of mine tearing up the area with buckshot, I might not be here to type this.
2 of them were caught quickly and were severely intoxicated at the time but not
sure what happened to the 3rd. Caliber made no difference, my butt stayed in the
roadside ditch.
I would wager those bullets in the psychos gun in the video
were walmart specials and not something like stingers. Remember,
John Hinkley used a .22 also and look what carnage he caused.
And WW1 was started by a single bullet from a .32 automatic.
Killing an ArchDuke. Small calibers can sometimes do big things.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2010, 04:35:45 PM »
The Mossad had a perfect record with silenced 22 shorts to the back of the head. Shot placement is what it's all about.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2010, 02:14:47 AM »
Richard, we love u man.   Besides you're not a "normal" lawyer... you aren't rabidly anti-2A like most of them.   
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2010, 05:47:48 AM »
YIKES!!!!....better get Richard on BIG bear this fall if'n I know what's good for me!!!!
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #40 on: January 15, 2010, 07:58:25 AM »
 Evidently if you call them a "White man" that may work, nothing else said seemed to work!
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #41 on: January 15, 2010, 08:07:50 AM »
I can't believe no one here knows it takes a silver bullet to hurt a lawyer !
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #42 on: February 06, 2010, 12:53:56 PM »
Talking about lawyers....I just saw on the news about 5 minutes ago that terrorists out in California just hijacked a plane load of lawyers and were threatening to release one an hour until their demands were met.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #43 on: February 06, 2010, 03:01:51 PM »
Hello Atlaw
These previous posters seem to have forgotten that almost yearly an attourney has to step up, toe the line and without flinching tell the Supreme court of the United States that the Second Amendment to the Constitution is not a myth and will not be considered negotiable.  Atlaw I live in Arizona, send for my address, if you get out this way let me know.  I will serve you the finest dinner in the state, or just good coffee and cookies if that is what you want.  I am retired from the US Postal Service and all I heard for years was about people going "Postal"  To me it was 35 years of uniformed Civil Service following a pattern set up by George Washington for veterans before there was a constitution.  They can make fun of either of us but they can not claim we did not get the job done. Come to think of it from our point of view, jokes on the other guy.

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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #44 on: February 06, 2010, 05:56:49 PM »
blindhari, that lawyer before the supreme court is there because a bunch of other lawyers made some unConstitutional laws concerning our 2nd Amendment.
And your stamps cost too damn much. ;) ;D
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #45 on: February 06, 2010, 06:27:02 PM »
Dee you are a joy,

Since 1964 1 ounce 1st class postage has gone from $.10 to $.43.  In the meantime we have stock market that has gone from 2000 (approx) to over 10000.  I could by a new mustang for $6000 and top end now can go over $40000, trucks have gone from 4-6000 to over 60000 top end.  If you really think postage is too high why don't you walk the next letter up to Chicago from Texas?  I started work for the USPS at a time when it did not pay a living wage to full time employees.  I did that so I could go to school days after the Army and work nights.  Military surplus rifles were in the $50- 150 range.  Try to buy a Mauser or Springfield for that now.  And lastly I will stand my ground on this, I performed a service set down by the Continental Congress before there was a Constitution, "to bind the nation together".  While doing that service I worked under one way glass and microphones at all times and was forced to give up my rights to political expression. There was never a mandate from the Continental Congress or the Government of the United States of America to sell you stamps at a price that pleased you.  But the basic premise of a Department of the United States engaged in binding the nation together is still in existence.  I started my federal career in Army uniform and finished to retire in Postal uniform, I am proud of all of my service to my country, and fulfilled my sworn Oath to both.

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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #46 on: February 06, 2010, 06:40:09 PM »
Dee
My apology to you and the membership for my last post.  I seem to have reached an age when I respond  with greater vitrol than is warranted.  I could and should have offered explanation instead of bombast. My choice in employ and service were mine to make.  If I have to justify them now, to anyone, it is only to my family and myself.  As to Atlaw and lawyers on both sides of any question that was a choice made by our founding fathers.  Atlaw is by profession a lawyer.  After going over his posts I would probably call him friend.  As I would address you.  Dee anytime you get to Az coffee and cookies on me at my place.  It's time to bring in the dogs.

Once Again I apologise for my ranting,

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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2010, 12:47:34 AM »
blindhari:  cookies?
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2010, 02:09:46 AM »
blindhari, I have listened to so many insults about bad cops, lazy cops, stupid cops, dishonest cops, donut eatin cops :P, and politically appointed cops, I can't keep track.
99.9% of all the GOOD cop jokes I ever heard I heard from other cops. Most all of the GOOD lawyer joke I heard were from COPS! AtlLaw, you thought I was gonna say lawyers didn't you? ;D
AtlLaw I am sure has heard them all, and if you'll notice he rolls with the punches. When you look like that you have to. ;D AtlLaw and I, I think are friends. He occasionally pms me with questions, and I answer him with seemingly knowledgeable BS. He's a good guy. Something rare when you realize he has a law degree.
Seriously though. I have some very definite opinions about a certain type of lawyer, but blindhari, if you were to scan thru my many posts, you would find I have a very definite opinion about certain types of cops.
SADLY though. I don't have an opinion about postal workers. I just don't know many. But .43 cents is too high. ;D

blindhari. No need to apologize. My sense of humor is as dry as Arizona, and much misunderstood. Your anger was so mild I didn't even notice. You should see 2 or 3 of the these guys tear into me. I keep bandages and a tourniquet by the key board.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2010, 02:42:53 AM »
Blindhari   Nice to hear from someone who takes pride in what he did, if there is anything wrong with the postal service today it is because nobody has any pride in their work these days. My wife subs at the local post office and the stories she brings home makes me wonder if the institution can survive or not.

As a former Fed. I have my own stories of stereotyping. Likewise the outfit I worked for, National Wildlife Refuges, had a LOT of team pride. We took a lot of pride in getting a lot of good done with every thin dime in our budgets, and I frankly think we did better when our budgets were very small. That was the good old days. Today I see the outfit becoming another target of liberal social engineering. The liberals threw out the old civil service rules that tried to guarantee that the best qualified person was selected for every job. Now they are starting to fill jobs in the Service with people who meet their ideas of fairness. This is bullcrap and will be the death of the Refuge System, and probably the whole Federal Civil Service System if it continues.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #50 on: February 07, 2010, 03:24:54 AM »
Mikey
I have had the privlege of working beside a Louisiana man for 8 years.  In korea with the Army he was first cook in a company.  Going to the mess tent one night to light stoves he found a Korean spiking thier supplies. korean grabbed a knife and the two of them wound up in the bottom of a draw.  He was cut pretty bad but he crushed the Koreans throat.  He retired Chief Warrant Army food services.  I am in possesion of Grandpa Jones all time best oatmeal cookie recipe among others. He developed it to give the most taste, value and nutrition possible for the money.  His wife was dietician/nutritionist for a poor school district and he worked with her to stretch the school budget. I would be proud to send it along to you.  I have used it to fill hollow legs on Boy Scouts/Explorer Scouts/Sheriffs search and rescue, family reunions.  It makes a whole bunch of cookies.  Jones saved vacation time every year and went back to louisiana.  They dropped a whole beef and 2 hogs into pits for cooking and he stored 85 dutch ovens to plant and make beans in, on the last few hours he made soda bread on the lids.  Jones was all Louisiana man, soft spoken and polite with a steel core that would ask why you were being impolite before he handed you your head.  I have other recipes as I was raised in Mom's restraunt and have worked various places including casino.  The only thing better than the smell of cookies in the kitchen was the the divine fragrance coming off full sheet pans of Mom and Grandmas Parker House rolls.

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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #51 on: February 07, 2010, 05:44:18 AM »
Blindhari,  No need to appologise - you brought out some good points.  No, I don't work for the Postal Service.  Just nice to see someone who takes pride in what they do speak up. 
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #52 on: February 07, 2010, 07:08:28 AM »
HEY! I'm up for the oatmeal cookie recipe. Their my all time favorite. Especially if ya dump raisins in'em.
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #53 on: February 07, 2010, 09:36:52 AM »
Any one who wants a recipe, send me a PM with an address and I will reply utilising those expensive stamps.  I have a bunch all printed.(recipes not stamps)  Raisins work well in these as do walnuts.  We go to California every CHRISTmas (Delta Country) and pick up about 120 lbs of Chandler walnuts in shell.  My sister and brother in law pitch in to hlp crack nuts and there is nothing but shells in the air, surprising how much fun that is.  These also fit right into an oatmeal cookie.  The recipe makes a bunch (fills up about 15 boy scouts easy) but they freeze well in a plastic bag and are good reheated in a toaster oven.  Now if I could only figure out how to get cod done exactly right when baking, that one still eludes me.

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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #54 on: February 07, 2010, 10:18:08 AM »
Well, we started by disrespecting
"MOST" lawyers, and now we are baking cookies.
All is good at Graybeards............ ;)
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #55 on: February 07, 2010, 04:16:53 PM »
Quote from: S.S. on February 07, 2010, 10:18:08 AM
Well, we started by disrespecting
"MOST" lawyers, and now we are baking cookies.
All is good at Graybeards............ ;)

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All I got to do is keep my aggravatin' mouth shut and everbody be singin "kum-by-ya" in just a few posts!   ;D
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #56 on: February 07, 2010, 04:18:50 PM »
99% of the lawyers make the 1% like Richard look bad.  ;)
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2010, 05:50:14 PM »
Quote from: AtlLaw on February 07, 2010, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: S.S. on February 07, 2010, 10:18:08 AM
Well, we started by disrespecting
"MOST" lawyers, and now we are baking cookies.
All is good at Graybeards............ ;)

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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2010, 12:56:33 PM »
Forgive me for going off pst ,,,but I have to share this
   Lawyer to doctor on witness stand: Did you check the man to see if he was dead?
   Doctor to lawyer: No I did not...
   Lawyer to doctor on witness stand... How do you know the man was dead then???
   Doctor to lawyer: His brain was on my desk in a jar of formaldehyde...
   Lawyer to doctor on witness stand:  Isn't it possible he could have still been alive???
   Doctor to lawyer: I guess it's possible he could still be a lawyer....
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Re: Why I would not take a .22 to a gunfight
« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2010, 01:23:27 PM »
yes yes... very humerous... quite original... <yawn>   ::)

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