dogs running off deer

[billd]

any members had any problems with stray dogs  running deer off property? i had 3 different ocasions this season when 2 dogs strayed into hunting area possibly spooking any deer around.i dont want to shoot them  but would like to scare them away, any thoughts welcome.

[JW/OK]

I usually frown on dogs running deer too, but this year near Silt Colorado we watched some dogs chase two mule deer bucks off private property onto BLM land where we were lying in wait!
But seriously here in Oklahoma dogs running wild and unattended are generally not running wild for long. The exception would be someone's hunting dogs that are lost.

[Swampman]

SSS

[Land_Owner]

billd...your problem is shared by many.  Stray dogs that run deer should be shown no courtesy and are varments just like their cousins - the Yotes.  

For stray dogs, [Swampman beat me to it] consider the 3 S's...

[Swampman]

On the other hand I've had dogs push deer by me which I killed (deer not the dogs).  They can do as much good as harm.

[kansasj]

Wild dogs in parts of Kansas are a real problem.   There is only one way to deal with them but that is up to each individual.   If you want a challenge try and "scare" them off.   It won't work!   People say "Oh my dog would never chase deer, he sleeps under the porch all day"  Well of course he does---he chased deer all night!!   The rear problem is when two or more than three dogs get together.  It reverts back to the "wolf pack" thing and they can ruin a area for deer hunting.
Suggestions:  If you don't want to shoot them or dispose of them in a quite manner of your choice you can always get a furharvester permit and set traps for yotes and when you catch a dog you cannot be prosecuted.  You will need a good device to hold the dog while you remove the steel trap from his leg but I assure you he will never chase deer again.  This takes diligence and patience but is a sure way to deal with the problem.
As more and more people move to the country this will become a common problem.  They buy 5 acres and of course get a horse and two or three dogs that they feed half the time.
The best solution is shoot, shovel, shut-up!!

[kynardsj]

Definately SSS.

[Dee]

kansasj, that is exactly what is happening in my part of Texas (North Central). Dallas folks moving in and buying 1 to 5 acre plots, building a big house, get a horse, or some little goats and several dogs. They feed the dogs most of the time, but they are a nuisance to everyone in the area. SHOOT SHOVEL AND SHUT UP.
I tried to ride my mountain bike for exercise and their big dogs come out to harass you when you go by their houses.
I think I may have to start carrying a 3 foot stick of half inch re bar on the handle bars for social lessons.

[youthpastorjon]

In NY I have heard that if you call the DEC sometimes they will come in and shoot the dogs for you.  It is illegal for dogs to run the deer here whether they are wild or just the neighbors.  You can get in serious trouble for using dogs.  My understanding is that if I shoot a dog I can get in serious trouble though. 

[Dave in WV]

It's frowned on by farmers here to the point I've been told by more than one land owner, "If you see a dog running deer, including mine, shoot it and if you don't shoot it don't come back to hunt". If a dog runs deer they'll run livestock too.

[Swampman]

I hunted at a camp in AL that had a policy of "if you let a dog walk don't come back."

[hunt-m-up]

I'll bet you can pattern them. A dozen snares set on the right trails should work. Might scare them to death...

[billy_56081]

In Minnesota there is no need for the 3 S's in winter time. It is written in the game laws that shooting dogs chasing deer is not only legal but highly recomended.


The sheriffs department responds to reports of dogs chasing deer and they get some good shooting practice.

[hunt-m-up]

In Minnesota there is no need for the 3 S's in winter time. It is written in the game laws that shooting dogs chasing deer is not only legal but highly recomended.


The sheriffs department responds to reports of dogs chasing deer and they get some good shooting practice.

That surprises me in Al Franken land, it's good to see some traditional values can endure thru all the crap.

[mirage1988]

Theres a lot more to minnesota than the inner city losers in minneapolis and st. paul that elect morons like franken, there are political forums here so lets keep the hunting forums clean

[Land_Owner]

I believe hunt-m-up was just making an observation in passing...and your caution is well made.

[mirage1988]

I know, but it is an embarrasment to the fine folks in this state to be represented by him. enuf said?

[Graybeard]

I hunted at a camp in AL that had a policy of "if you let a dog walk don't come back."

Shooting or otherwise doing harm to a dog or cat in Alabama is a FELONY. Being a good law abiding citizen of this state I'd never do harm to a poor little animal. 

[Dee]

Me either GB. But I do keep a shovel in my Jeep just in case someone else would.

[kyhareraiser]

got hemmed up one time by a pack(5) of the dogs ..range from boston terrier size (not a boston terrier) to german shepard size and all i had was my bow .story ended good i guess ,being camoed from head to toe i took baby stps backward until i felt i could beat feet and get to the house b4 them  ..not at all a good feeling having snarling faces lookin you in the eyes and making growling sounds that would come out of cu-jo's mouth.. so when i see a dog or pack of dogs runnin' deer,and they don't have a collar of no sort on  ,,bad news.. how ever if the id tags are on them i call'em to me .takem out of the hills as i go ,feed'em,water'em and call their owners

[Dave in WV]

I sent someone a vet bill several years ago when I put a load of #5s in their dog's azz at about 30 yards. He didn't seem interested in the deer he was chasing after that. BTW, the land owner was one that told me to shoot them or keep out. Seemed a 16ga shell was a  good price for free hunting.

[Dustyvance]

On our land ( in Mississippi) , if it doesnt have a collar. Shoot 1st and ask questions later.

[billy_56081]

What's kind of funny is Minnesota is a state controlled by libs in the metro area but we not only have the law that allows dogs to be shot if running deer in the winter. But we also have a feral cat law.

[hunt-m-up]

Theres a lot more to minnesota than the inner city losers in minneapolis and st. paul that elect morons like franken, there are political forums here so lets keep the hunting forums clean

I understand the Franken thing is a sore spot for many, don't blame you. I was merely making an observation, a positive one, that it's good the state has maintained some common sense when it comes to issues such as this. Especially when there are states considered to be more "conservative" that are more restrictive on this issue.
Thanks 

[efremtags]

Wild dogs are obviously a nuisance and there is an easy fix. When you know the owners of the dog, it becomes a bit more challenging. In that case SSS does not work so well.

I have a few neighboors with, this is the country let them roam free, attitude. I don't care typicaly, except for the little season that occurs between OCT - DEC.

I called animal controlled and they took it very seriously, and paid the offenders a visit. Now the dogs seem to be less of a nusiance. I guess paying fines up to 300 can do that. The best part is all I have to do is call and complain if there is another instance, and present very little evidence to the fact for them to issue a fine. That's a pretty powerful thing to have at ones disposal.

NYS has a 0 tolerance leash law. If it;s not on your land, it has to be leased or within control of the owner.

For those that follow SSS policy, Alfred Hitchcock stated it best "gentlemen, dig deep".

[Cuts Crooked]

If a dog/dogs are running deer I shoot em. If I can ascertain who owned it, I dump the carcass on thier lawn, if not I let em lay. This has made me a few enemies down through the years, but has also won me some lasting friendships too.

I live in a heavily agricultural area and dogs that will run/kill deer, will run/kill livestock too. Landowners in this part of the world don't put up with it... much to the yuppies dismay.

[billy_56081]

Heck one of the dogs that belonged to the Sheriff here even got whacked running deer. He woulda shot it himself if he woulda known it was running them.

[Graybeard]

Lotsa dog fighting and cock fighting too for money I think is what got the law thru here in Bama on animal cruelty. You'd be better off killing a person here than a dog, cat or horse. Hell they'll take your cows and horses and jail you if some animal lover reports you aren't feeding them enough and they look too skinny to suit them.

We too have a state lease law saying ALL dogs and cats must be on lease, inside a fence or inside your house but there are no state or county animal enforcement officers. Most cities I think do have an animal control officer but living as far as I do from the nearest town that's of no help to me. No police officer at county or state level will enforce that but they sure will the law against doing the critters harm.

That law got slid in right past us and I never heard a word about it until long after it was made law. They sure pulled the wool over our eyes on that one.

[deerman12]

A couple of years, I saw a pack of dogs running across my property chasing some deer.  I got in my jeep and drove down to investigate.   I got out of my vehicle and starting walking.  I heard something in brush and out came a big rottweiler growling and running right toward me.  I felt inclined to teach him a lesson of what a 12 gauge riot gun can do at short range .  I don't tolerate dogs risking my safety on my own land.

[Lon371]

  Was told of a farmer who had a pack of dogs down the road from his place. They have killed a couple calves. Were physicaly seen doing so. Farmer called the law. Law said I bet they were are coyotes. Farmer said nope dogs. Law said nope them are coyotes, I would shoot them

Lonny