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Offline Artilleryman

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Stolen Cannon
« on: January 05, 2010, 02:26:16 PM »
I have been asked to get this information out to as many people as possible.  Thanks, Norm Gibson

My Cannon, limber and covered 18ft Car hauler was stolen from my lot
    at 4218 Pelham, Dearborn Heights, MI 48125. Batty B 1st Michigan
    Light Artillery's entire gear was enclosed in the well locked up
    trailer. My trailer has distinctive bullet hole decals running up
    both sides and a giant cannonball splat on the back door. I want to
    get this information out as quick as I can. The more eyes we have
    looking the better!

    U.S. 1841 6pdr cannon mark C.A.&CO 1845 on trunnions 298 over W.V.
    on Muzzle
    No. 5. Limber U.S. 6 pdr.
    Trailer is a 2000 Haulmark 18ft covered car hauler charcoal gray
    VIN 16HGB1834YH065667.
    Please forward to any and all your C.W. reenactors and reenacting
    websites.

    Police Contact is: Dearborn Hgts. Police
                     313 277-6770
                     Officer Beaudree
                     Case # 2010-84

    Reward!
    Thanks
    Dr. Bill Vecchioni
    313 277-1100
    313-274-5412
Norm Gibson, 1st SC Vol., ACWSA

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2010, 04:07:00 PM »
Do we have any info on when this was stolen-?? I live and work in the area, I will have my eyes open. I had my Dodge ram stolen a year after i got it and was found in detroit, i know what he is going through!!

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2010, 04:41:48 PM »
Keep an eye for it on the cannon superstore web site they seem to attract stolen cannon ........
Mr president I do not cling to either my gun or my Bible.... my gun is holstered on my side so I may carry my Bible and quote from it!

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2010, 05:16:29 PM »
you have my attention! I move around alot from way north to quite away south.

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2010, 05:35:48 PM »
More likely will be found by a diver this spring at the bottom of a lake, than at a dealer.  :'(
Imagine the look on a theif's face when they opened the back, expecting to find tools or a quad (something they could fence) and found that in there instead!  :o
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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2010, 07:19:52 PM »
If luck plays a part, they might just abandon it, knowing that it would be a red hot looked-for item!
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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2010, 05:35:55 AM »
All I know is what I posted.  Matt Switlik sent me the information.  I think that the thief might not of known what was in the trailer, but knew that at least the trailer was worth several thousand dollars.  If I hear anything else I will post it.  Thanks for passing the information on and keeping an eye out for it.  I can only imagine what Bill is going through.

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2010, 06:58:32 AM »
I Have posted this on 3 other forum's the more eyes the better.
Mr president I do not cling to either my gun or my Bible.... my gun is holstered on my side so I may carry my Bible and quote from it!

Sed tamen sal petrae LURO VOPO CAN UTRIET sulphuris; et sic facies tonituum et coruscationem si scias artficium

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2010, 09:32:28 AM »
Some additional information.  The gun is an iron reproduction with ornamental markings on it.  The WV "inspector markings"  stands for his name.  Thanks for helping to get the word out.
Norm Gibson, 1st SC Vol., ACWSA

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2010, 11:28:49 AM »
It is a bad, bad thing, I can imagine this man's sense of loss. BoomLover mentioned something about these bums perhaps just abandoning the gun and carriage; you never know, the people that do these things are usually strung out on drugs, or just plain dumb, so there's always the chance that this may be what happens, and the police will then recover it. I was thinking that if these thieves saw that first episode of "Pawn Stars" where the gent sold his Hotchkiss cannon for 30 grand, that they might try this route, and get nabbed when the shop owner notifies the cops; at least one can always hope.
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2010, 03:03:20 PM »
I had a repro 3" confederate field piece stolen from me in 1999

so I can relate..... all I can say is I hope the wheels fell off and

the barrel landed on the bum's legs.
Mr president I do not cling to either my gun or my Bible.... my gun is holstered on my side so I may carry my Bible and quote from it!

Sed tamen sal petrae LURO VOPO CAN UTRIET sulphuris; et sic facies tonituum et coruscationem si scias artficium

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2010, 03:05:55 PM »
I had a repro 3" confederate field piece stolen from me in 1999

so I can relate..... all I can say is I hope the wheels fell off and

the barrel landed on the bum's legs.


Did you ever get it back?

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2010, 04:07:59 PM »
Good News!  Just got this update.  Thanks for helping to put out the word.


Well Boys,
Were back in business. Got an anonymous phone call from a couple of"good Samaritans" in Detroit who was really scared of finding a stolen trailer in his neighborhood with a cannon in it after watching the news today. He offered to bring it to me anonymously and he did so around 5pm today. Ole number 5 is back home minus the winch and battery and with a broken side door handle Cursory look thru the inventory in the dark is that all the important stuff is there and I will do a daylight check tommorrow. Have to go back tonight with another padlock for the tongue. Good news is Good news and thanks for all the help the Batty mates put out. Got a call from a fellow cannoneer in Richmond Va this am and he notified the entire east coast about the theft. This afternoon got a call from a fellow in Dallas Tx and he notified the entire southwest of the US. Great Lakes region was notified. What an amazing network of fellow reenactors we have.  Description of No. 5 went cross country in a half day..
Thanks all,
Col. Bill
Norm Gibson, 1st SC Vol., ACWSA

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2010, 04:14:58 PM »
That IS good news ! I wonder what went thru their minds when they pryied the thing open .

What in the heck is this thing ? It sure is heavy !     :o
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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2010, 04:17:55 PM »
I'm so happy for Battery B 1st Michigan. Yes it is amazing what the internet can accomplish in such a short time.

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2010, 05:52:00 PM »
Hi ;D
The internet does rock! Here I the Northwest your cannon was the talk of the town.   We all are So glad that the cannon is home.
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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2010, 09:03:31 PM »
Maybe he ought to store it on jackstands with the wheels off.  It would at least require more activity on the parts of the thieves to get it underway.
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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2010, 10:30:07 PM »
Good News!  Just got this update.  Thanks for helping to put out the word.


Well Boys,
Were back in business. Got an anonymous phone call from a couple of"good Samaritans" in Detroit who was really scared of finding a stolen trailer in his neighborhood with a cannon in it after watching the news today. He offered to bring it to me anonymously and he did so around 5pm today. Ole number 5 is back home minus the winch and battery and with a broken side door handle Cursory look thru the inventory in the dark is that all the important stuff is there and I will do a daylight check tommorrow. Have to go back tonight with another padlock for the tongue. Good news is Good news and thanks for all the help the Batty mates put out. Got a call from a fellow cannoneer in Richmond Va this am and he notified the entire east coast about the theft. This afternoon got a call from a fellow in Dallas Tx and he notified the entire southwest of the US. Great Lakes region was notified. What an amazing network of fellow reenactors we have.  Description of No. 5 went cross country in a half day..
Thanks all,
Col. Bill

Now that IS GREAT NEWS! These things don't usally turn out this way.


 
I had a repro 3" confederate field piece stolen from me in 1999

so I can relate..... all I can say is I hope the wheels fell off and

the barrel landed on the bum's legs.


Did you ever get it back?

No and the local PD didn't seem that interested.....It was in a barn on my mom's estate behind locked gates and a locked door
I believe the real estate people had a hand in it they removed(stole) things from the house I was no longer in control of the estate the Fla. Courts
had put a lawyer in charge (another long story) and the real estate agents who were in charge of selling the house plundered quite a bit when no one
was looking, Cops not interested Real estate firm -big money..... enough said..... Other than I have little love for lawyers or real estate agents.

 
 

Maybe he ought to store it on jackstands with the wheels off.  It would at least require more activity on the parts of the thieves to get it underway.

I think a small hitch size steel ball and a good hardened lock in the tong would slow most thieves down, if they can't cut the lock they can't move it.
Mr president I do not cling to either my gun or my Bible.... my gun is holstered on my side so I may carry my Bible and quote from it!

Sed tamen sal petrae LURO VOPO CAN UTRIET sulphuris; et sic facies tonituum et coruscationem si scias artficium

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2010, 02:06:24 PM »
I'm glad this story turned out to have a happy ending.

Norm, or anyone else who would know; I've never thought about it before, and I'd assume the answer will be yes, but I don't know; do the members of N-SSA, and reenactors groups that you know of, usually carry insurance on their artillery pieces?
RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2010, 02:42:39 PM »
Celebrate!

We salute the return!

Time to fire a salute!!!!
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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 03:06:01 PM »
I'm glad this story turned out to have a happy ending.

Norm, or anyone else who would know; I've never thought about it before, and I'd assume the answer will be yes, but I don't know; do the members of N-SSA, and reenactors groups that you know of, usually carry insurance on their artillery pieces?

I don't know what other groups do.  I carry some insurance as the guns belong to me and my brother not to a group.
Norm Gibson, 1st SC Vol., ACWSA

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Re: Stolen Cannon
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2010, 09:15:26 AM »
Ya know; I had never really of someone just rolling in and stealing a trailer. Perhaps I better get some extra as my toy lives in its trailer to.