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Offline nomosendero

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2010, 03:22:05 PM »
Not trying to burst any bubbles, but didn't Teddy Roosevelt take a 30-06 to Africa?  I had read that he did, but he probably had other guns with him as well.  I don't think anyone was argueing against the 30-06 in the US, or argueing for it in Africa.  These threads do get real old in a hurry though.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 04:44:05 PM »
I thought 450/577 was the original wild cat.
Or at least the fist commercial round that took one case and was necked down to make another.

Ya know, you are right about that, but I was really driving at something still in use and a true, viable long range cartridge. The .270 is that cartridge. Those old antiques do look sweet though!
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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2010, 07:21:22 PM »
I read a piece last year ( maybe 2008) where a game warden in Botswana had problems
with his 458 ammunition. (Many years ago) So he did all his culling of elephant and buff
with his 30-06 and 220gr solids.
The head of the department gave him a hard time when he heard about this, so he took
his boss with on one off the trips. Afterwards the boss said its fine he can use the 30-06
but he is not allowed to tell the other wardens.
He said he would have prefered a bigger caliber but that is what he had, he knew were to shoot
and he could not see any difference in how the elephant fell after receiving a shot from 30-06
or one of the bigger calibers.



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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2010, 12:46:43 AM »
Yes for about 95 percent of N.American hunting. I own 3  30/06 love the caliber easy on the shoulder and easy to reload, but if beasties that tend to want to bite back or stomp you into the ground are on the menu I beleive there are much better choices out there. Just my .02

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2010, 01:13:22 AM »
The 30/06 is a grate rifle It has been used to kill alot of different game,I have used it to kill some deer.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2010, 06:05:56 AM »
Not trying to burst any bubbles, but didn't Teddy Roosevelt take a 30-06 to Africa?  I had read that he did, but he probably had other guns with him as well.  I don't think anyone was argueing against the 30-06 in the US, or argueing for it in Africa.  These threads do get real old in a hurry though.
He also took a side by side in one of the 450 to 577 calibers too for bigger game.
He used the 405 on Lion and called it Big Medicine.
He used 30-06, 30-40Krag, and a few other calibers on plains game  But had the over 40 calibers for big and dangerous game.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2010, 02:43:23 AM »
I think that the 30/06 has its place just like the other rounds have there place. I mean you wouldn't shoot an Elephant with a 257 wby or a 30/06.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2010, 06:09:39 AM »
This post is dying fast. Tell ya what. Use whatever rifle/gun/bullet/sheel combo you want. If you do your part and be an ETHICAL hunter, your game will not go far at all. I never shoot at "running full speed" deer. That is ridiculous. (read from another post) I rarely shoot anything that is moving. But that is just me. I like taking my time for the best shot. You don't HAVE to kill something everytime you go out. That's not hunting. It's shooting. That is also another topic for another time.

I want someone to guess which rifle/gun/bullet/shell this deer was taken with. As a bonus, guess the yardage. Then stop talking about "the best" for combination for skinny little whitetail deer. They are not tough at all. By the way, that is the entrance wound. Perfect heart shot. I like the animal to absorb all of the energy. Hydrostatic shock kills. You don't need two holes for blood unless you are bow hunting, and even then any good broad head will empty a deer quickly with just an entrance hole. Animals die from blood loss with arrows, not shock.  Yet another topic for another time. Keep it simple.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2010, 07:28:29 AM »
That deer was shot with a 3006.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2010, 07:33:24 AM »
What a mess... I have absolutely no interest in doing that to a deer, especially if that is the entrance wound.  I can kill deer without destroying them.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2010, 07:52:26 AM »
What a mess... I have absolutely no interest in doing that to a deer, especially if that is the entrance wound.  I can kill deer without destroying them.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2010, 08:12:41 AM »
I'm with Dukk on this one...Looks like a either a 243 or some mag with a lite for caliber bullet.  I was in a deer camp in canada awhile back and a fellow shot a button buck with a 308 at 30yards.  He used a rem 150grcl in a rem semi auto...emptied the mag...whatta mess...saw his dad do the same thing a year later to a 120lb sow.....it was aweful.
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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2010, 08:42:32 AM »
That deer was shot with a 3006.

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In the wrong place.

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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2010, 01:33:40 PM »
Can't tell exactly where the point of impact was, but unless it was at a pretty good down angle it doesn't look like a "perfect heart shot" ore even like it would hit the heart at all.

Second, it looks like the bullet blew up and destroyed a lot of meat - which is why I use carefully selected premiums.
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Re: 30-06 for game larger than elk
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2010, 02:29:54 PM »
thats right, 257 roberts, 25-06, 257 weatherby, on everything up to elk. the rest will fall very nicley to the 30-06. bears, buff, lions, tigers, tuskers. you name it.  i'll not have my ass handed to me again shooting the magnums.

This thread started a little wierd to begin with, as to how it discusses using a 30-06 for anything & now we have a caliber guessing contest going on, let me see, what shot up the Deer?  ::)

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