Obama...Just What America Needed! Whatcha think?

[Redtail1949]

I say Obama is just what we needed. Why? You might ask?

I know of nothing else in the last forty years that has gotten the attention of Americans like he and his policies have. It has awakened many many people to the erosion of our ideals, our principles and the sense of love for country that made us the United States so great. It has brought forth the so called tea party people and they are showing that they in fact are a mighty force to be dealt with. The fear of major losses in this years elections as well as 2012 has struck fear in the hearts of the Democrats and many Republicans.

So I say he was a blessing in disguise and therefore he was just what we needed.

Whatcha think?

[Questor]

I'm not so happy about Obama winning, but I am very happy that McCain lost. If he had won, the republicans would have been rewarded for their horrible policies. This would have been a disaster. At least now the republicans have a reason to either reform or be replaced. Until I see some conservative fiscally responsible policies coming from the republicans when they control the legislative branch, I will assume they are still a mess. It will be years before we can judge that.

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 redtail1949 

[teddy12b]

There's a silver lining in anything.  I like that Obama got more people interested in gun ownership and the shooting sports, although it wasn't the way many people would have liked for all that to have happened it seems to have been the most effective way of getting people interested in gun ownership.

I think Americans have been waking over the last two years and are starting to really realize the problems with the two party system and corruption in DC.  I don't really care for either party these days and I'd love to see all new faces in this next election, and the one after that.  I consider myself to be an independent now.

[Casull]

I only hope you are right Redtail, and we don't see a repeat of the second Clinton election.

[yellowtail3]

I know of nothing else in the last forty years that has gotten the attention of Americans like he....

what about him, personally, has gotten the attention of Americans - or at least, you? Specifics?

...and his policies have.

which policies, in particular?

It has awakened many many people to the erosion of our ideals, our principles and the sense of love for country that made us the United States so great.

when did this erosion start? For the partisans out here... most of our presidents over the last 40 years have been Repubs...

Whatcha think?

I hope things get better soon.

And if I'm ever dictator, all the divorce lawyer will die, and it will be illegal for any attorney to hold any legislative office

[Dustyvance]

Black,white,pink, purple, none of that matter to me but we arwe in SERIOUS DO DO if you ask me. I think this is the worst thing that has happened in Amarican history.

[yellowtail3]

I think this is the worst thing that has happened in Amarican history.

what - do you mean, the election or President Obama? How so??

[Casull]

I think he's talking about the election of a socialist who detests this country (and the majority of its citizens) to the office of President.

[yellowtail3]

I think he's talking about the election of a socialist who detests this country (and the majority of its citizens) to the office of President.

Casull, you must know that any idiot or even smart ideologue can toss out labels and accusations; what I'm looking for is some substance. What is so bad about the man, that someone might consider the election of President Obama to be "the worst thing that has happened in Amarican history."

Worse than Bull Run and all that followed?

[hillbill]

well what yu wanna know? this health care thing is gonna be a mess.its been tried in the UK and canada and it dont work.he and his cronies keep pushing it even tho a majority, as reported by his minions in the press,of our country say they dont want it.he wont at all address immigration.the war in afganistan takes him a few weeks to address any decision.im not saying he is a bad dude, just that his views will be found to be diametrically opposed to what the majority of god fearing americans believe in.

[yellowtail3]

this health care thing is gonna be a mess.

alright - what do you know about 'this health care thing', and what specifically do you object to?

its been tried in the UK and canada and it dont work.

Is that right? I understand the NHS, generally speaking, to be pretty popular in the UK. What do you know about it, that makes you think otherwise?

he and his cronies keep pushing it even tho a majority, as reported by his minions in the press,of our country say they dont want it.

What is a crony, and what is a minion? Did Dubya have any cronies or minions?

he wont at all address immigration.the war in afganistan takes him a few weeks to address any decision.im not saying he is a bad dude, just that his views will be found to be diametrically opposed to what the majority of god fearing americans believe in.

Several things. how long should the Prez take to make major military/policy decisions? What was does diametrically mean, here?

Didn't President Obama win an election?

[Redtail1949]

seems like some of you see it too...

[bearmgc]

Personally, I don't see those silver linings. All that's mentioned could have been accomplished without the disease of the current administration.

[m-g Willy]

100% Right on Redtail!
Obamuslim has done what even slick willy couldn't do.
With his gangster politics,his American hateing views, and his total disreguard for what America people want!
He has united the silent majority against him and his cronies.
People that before never was involved in politics are starting to learn about the issues now!
And instead of just complaining like before,thier standing up and speaking out now!
Who ever thought you could bring so many people to all the Tea Parties across the country?(not to mention everyone that traveled to DC for that Tea Party!!)
obamuslim might have woke enough Americans up to where we can take this country back !
I only hope and pray America is strong enough to last the next three years with the AMERICAN hateing POS prez we are stuck with for now!

[yellowtail3]

Obamuslim has done what even slick willy couldn't do.

Like what??

With his gangster politics...

Provide an example of ganster politics, please?

his American hateing views,

provide an example of America hateing(?), please

and his total disreguard for what America people want!

You mean, the American people, who elected him?

He has united the silent majority against him and his cronies.

What is a crony, and... name three of them?

obamuslim might have woke enough Americans up to where we can take this country back !

Obamuslim... gee, if the opposition operates on the same level as you, Obama may serve four terms...

[magooch]

Some will lead, some will follow and then there are those who wander around in a fog asking what the hell is so bad.

[Casull]

this health care thing is gonna be a mess.
alright - what do you know about 'this health care thing', and what specifically do you object to?

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its been tried in the UK and canada and it dont work.
Is that right? I understand the NHS, generally speaking, to be pretty popular in the UK. What do you know about it, that makes you think otherwise?
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he and his cronies keep pushing it even tho a majority, as reported by his minions in the press,of our country say they dont want it.
What is a crony, and what is a minion? Did Dubya have any cronies or minions?
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he wont at all address immigration.the war in afganistan takes him a few weeks to address any decision.im not saying he is a bad dude, just that his views will be found to be diametrically opposed to what the majority of god fearing americans believe in.
Several things. how long should the Prez take to make major military/policy decisions? What was does diametrically mean, here?

Didn't President Obama win an election?

Obamuslim has done what even slick willy couldn't do.
Like what??
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With his gangster politics...
Provide an example of ganster politics, please?

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his American hateing views,
provide an example of America hateing(?), please

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and his total disreguard for what America people want!
You mean, the American people, who elected him?

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He has united the silent majority against him and his cronies.
What is a crony, and... name three of them?
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obamuslim might have woke enough Americans up to where we can take this country back !
Obamuslim... gee, if the opposition operates on the same level as you, Obama may serve four terms...

Isn't that cute.   
With those childish attempts to be sarcastic, you just lower your credibility.  I'm certainly not going to attempt to address even one of those inane questions (oh, and go ahead and make a snide retort - I promise not to respond to it).   

[Casull]

Some will lead, some will follow and then there are those who wander around in a fog asking what the hell is so bad.

Exactly.   

[yellowtail3]

Isn't that cute.  
With those childish attempts to be sarcastic, you just lower your credibility.  I'm certainly not going to attempt to address even one of those inane questions (oh, and go ahead and make a snide retort - I promise not to respond to it).  

Well, let's work on this. FIRST - I'm not being sarcastic, I'm asking the poster to back up dubious claims.

It seems to me that for some here - you show signs of being one? - the Pot Bellied Stove is a place to toss dubious statements into the echo-chamber, with no expectation that you'll called upon to back up what you say.  

Am I right in this? Or was that too snide? See, I think you - like many here - are perfectly capable of repeating ideological statements, but unable to back up what you say. I'll be glad to be shown otherwise.

Show me otherwise. Let's take one part of the post you've just responded to, where I assert that the NHS in GB, is actually pretty popular - was I wrong on that?

[jimster]

Concerning the health care passed...none of us know what's in it...cause they were not transparent in letting us know what was in it...(yes, Obama lied about transparency, but that is another story, he gave an entire speech on how nothing would pass until it went through the American people first)

What we know for sure so far is that it's a couple thousand pages long...full of regulations, and nobody is getting any health care for a long time per the party that passed it.....so what was the hurry again?  LOL!!!  Another emergency that was never there I guess.

So the question really is...what did we pass it for in the first place?  Now the attorney general in our state along with about 20 other states are contesting this, because it imposes a huge burden of money on the state....and they likely will win if this goes to the high court...same as the Brady bill was tossed out after they passed that...which is because the feds can't lay a burden of cost on a state....simple constitutional matter....which Congress does not seem to follow when they hurry up and pass stuff.  It would indeed be funny if the states shot this down the same way under the same criteria as the Brady bill.

When it is availble for me to read it all, I will...same as I did the worthless stim package....and I'm quite sure there is nothing in it that reforms anything, just as I could not find anything in the stim package that would stimulate anything in the economy. 

Reading their legislation is a real wake up...I can understand why they did not want the likes of me to read this HC and post it at work like I did the stim package. 

[Casull]

Well, let's work on this. FIRST - I'm not being sarcastic, I'm asking the poster to back up dubious claims.

Really?  Exactly what "dubious claims" did you have in mind when you asked for a definition of "chrony"?  Or asked how many chronies that Bush had (or how that was germane to Obama)?  Or how the fact that he was elected has any bearing on his going against the wishes of the American public (at least according to the polls I've seen on health care)?  Or how you seem to be the only person in this country who has not seen examples of Obama's America hating thoughts or tendencies (i.e. the views of his spiritual mentor, Reverend Wright, or his past writings, etc.)?

[m-g Willy]

Obamuslim has done what even slick willy couldn't do.

Like what??

(willy) He has outraged Americans to the point where they are standing up and speaking out.-TEA PARTIES-

With his gangster politics...

Provide an example of ganster politics, please?

(willy) Pushing bills through without giving time to even read them.
Or paying senators off for thier votes behind closed doors!
 

his American hateing views,

provide an example of America hateing(?), please

(willy)How about apologizing for things America has done in the past(Like saving Europe's ass-TWICE!)

and his total disreguard for what America people want!

You mean, the American people, who elected him?

(WILLY)I'm talking  about all the polls that show the majority of Americans that DON'T want the Health-Care bill?

He has united the silent majority against him and his cronies.

What is a crony, and... name three of them?

(willy)A crony=A comrade and worker for one whose intent is to do evil.
Three that come to mind first are
1.Nancy Pelosi
2.Harry Ried
3.Andy Stern

obamuslim might have woke enough Americans up to where we can take this country back !

Obamuslim... gee, if the opposition operates on the same level as you, Obama may serve four terms...

(willy)If it was up to the blind sheeple that elected him, your muslim would be king!

[alsaqr]

I'm a single issue voter.  The politicians stand on Second Amendment rights means more to me than anything else that the critter stands for.  Yep, Obama voted for every gun control scheme that came down the pike.  However, he did not author any gun control schemes.  McCain did author a gun control scheme.  He teamed up with his fellow liberal, Lieberman, to author a "gun show loophole" bill that was a draconian gun control at its finest. 

I voted for Palin and changed my voter registration the next day to Independent.   Ain't playing the lesser of two evils game ever again.   
   

[yellowtail3]

we've got some things in common, there, alsaqr...

[Casull]

we've got some things in common, there, alsaqr...

Except I get the distinct impression that maybe you voted for the greater of two evils.

[yellowtail3]

we've got some things in common, there, alsaqr...

Except I get the distinct impression that maybe you voted for the greater of two evils.

depends upon you politics, I suppose. I vote for Sarah Palin (Ron Paul wasn't on the ticket).

[Casull]

I vote for Sarah Palin (Ron Paul wasn't on the ticket).

Then why all the effort to defend Obama?

[yellowtail3]

I vote for Sarah Palin (Ron Paul wasn't on the ticket).

Then why all the effort to defend Obama?

Defend? Well... sounds like you'd advocate letting letting  disingenuous, untrue horseshit pass, if it agrees with your politics. Maybe I should, too.

I'll ponder it a while... .

[BBF]

well what yu wanna know? this health care thing is gonna be a mess.its been tried in the UK and canada and it dont work...................

I can't speak for the UK,however your Obama Care proposal is very much different then the Canada Health Act, and I for one am glad we have it.