building a 264 tang safety ruger

[flexjr]

just bought a 7 mag tang safety 77 today. planning on building a custom 264 win mag out of  it to match my rebarreled 7x57 tang safety 77. i have seen two 7 mags that would not chronograph what they were supposed to already will chronograph this one as well. anybody else like the tang safety 77s better than the mk2 77? seems to me that the best use for a 7 mag is to rebarrel to 264. if i burn the barrel out i can always get my gunsmith to screw on a new barrel

[drdougrx]

I have customs in both and very much prefer the tang safety.  No reason other than I like them.

[Silvertp]

I also prefer the "tang safety" Rugers. 

Re-barreling your 7-mag to .264 shouldn't be a problem.  When you build or re-barrel a rifle is a good time to make some addn'l mod's if you are wanting to maximize your accuracy potential.  Things like working over the trigger, truing the action, lapping the lugs, using a high quality bbl and choosing a gunsmith with a reputation for building accurate rifles (not necessarily in that order). 

The beauty of a good bolt gun is when you do wear out a barrel you can just have a new one screwed on.

Good luck w/ your project.

Silvertp

[flexjr]

my gunsmith just rebarreled my tang safety 77 7x57 and i am very happy with it. it was shooting great before i screwed up the original badger barrel and he put a shilen on it and it looks to still be a shooter. the stock was full length bedded by fajen best we can tell, and it has a canjar trigger. i am going to chrony the 7 mag after giving it some thought and probably take the money i would spend on a new barrel and get a really good scope. if it will get the velocity it is claimed to get. i have seen a 26 inch encore 7 remmy not even get close to a 264 with 139 hornadys and a 24 inch mark x mauser fail at the chronograph as well. if it doesn't get the numbers over my little 7x57 i want to see i have considered a rechamber to 7 weatherby and then maybe next year i will go 264. my gunsmith builds 264s on mausers all the time that will regularly shoot 3 shots under a half inch or less. he will definitely do all the tricks to the action before he screws on a new barrel of any sort.

[Silvertp]

Enjoy your new gun, work up some loads and see what it likes.  Your job then is to shoot it till you know it like an extension of your arm.

Best to ya!

Silvertp

[alleyyooper]

I also prefer the 77 tang saftey over the MK II. I just wish there was some information out there on the trigger.

   Al

[flexjr]

well it now has a 26 15/16 douglas 264 barrel screwed onto it. my gunsmith has gotten quite a reputation for building mausers in 264 that the whole group would fit inside a .338 bullet diameter at 100 yards. will shoot it for the first time next thursday good lord willing and the creek don't rise. the 7 mag just would not get the numbers i was looking for.

[john keyes]

no way dudes.  Mk II configuration >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tang safety.

 

[Silvertp]

Flex...standing by for your range report.

Silvertp

[Siskiyou]

A couple weeks ago I fired a number of different loads across the Chrony with a Tang Safety Ruger M77 in 7MM Remington Magnum.  I was amazed that published mid level load published in an early Speer Manual using a 160-grain Speer Mag-T and 4831 came within 6 fps of the published velocity.

A second load using AA8700 and the 160-grain Splitzer exceeded expected velocity.

I have found some factory loads fall short of advertised velocity.  The difference could be the ammunition was tested with a 26-inch barrel and my Ruger has a 24-inch barrel, the difference is easily explained.  A friend has a Model 70 Winchester in 7MM Magnum with a 26-inch barrel.  I would like to shoot my loads over a Chrony from that rifle.

I have a Savage 110 in 270 Winchester that produces 30 fps more velocity than my “slow barrel” Remington 700.  The deer do not seem to notice.  Both are 22-inch barrels, I have thought about picking up a 24-inch barrel for the 700 but it does not make practical sense to me.

I happen to like the 6.5, and a brother had a Ruger re-barreled to 6.5-284.  I passed on a good deal on a 264 Winchester forty some years ago because baby needed shoes.  Letting the deal go still haunts me.

[flexjr]

Will shoot the gun tomorrow if the weather cooperates. we tried the 139 hornady btsp which has the least bearing suface of the 140 class bullets in 7 mm. the gun was huffing and puffing to get 3050. it seems as though southern middle tennessee is a no man's land for the seven mag. we hunt farms where 400 yard shots are very normal and sometimes have to shoot deer in the summer for the state and farmers trying to save their crops. i simply do not understand the seven rm. everything says it should get the velocity but time and time again i have seen them fail the chronograph test and get their butts kicked by the old standby 30-06 many times over.

[nomosendero]

Flex, I am looking forward to your Range report, I have a Ruger Number 1 Lipsey Special .264 mag on the way.

[flexjr]

i saw those lipsey's rifles and they look nice.whoever is behind all the good ideas at lipsey's should start charging ruger comision. i could have probably gotten into one of those cheaper than this monster but i really like the old 77 action. did a break in thursday weather did not permit shooting a group but the barrel seems to be a winner. planning on shooting a group tommorrow among a million other things. tommorrow's shooting will be with light loads to fireform to my chamber. the bullet i am really wanting this rifle to shoot good with is the 140 accubond, as i have seen the 130 accubond do some freaky things and think the 140 might be better. off to see riders in the sky tonight.

[nomosendero]

It's funny you bring up those 2 bullets, I am looking at which components to buy for starting out, so I have ran #'s on biggameinfo these 2 Accubonds, Bergers & others. In 130 vs 140 in both brand bullets, it looks like the extra bullet wt. & higher BC may not overtake the diff. in vel. in the case of the Noslers, but the Berger 140, while not as flat as the 130 Ber, does offer a little better windage after 600 yds.

Yes, the 130 Accubond is a great game bullet, a guy over in TN that goes by reflex264 has done alot of Doe culling with that bullet.

[flexjr]

It's funny you bring up those 2 bullets, I am looking at which components to buy for starting out, so I have ran #'s on biggameinfo these 2 Accubonds, Bergers & others. In 130 vs 140 in both brand bullets, it looks like the extra bullet wt. & higher BC may not overtake the diff. in vel. in the case of the Noslers, but the Berger 140, while not as flat as the 130 Ber, does offer a little better windage after 600 yds.

Yes, the 130 Accubond is a great game bullet, a guy over in TN that goes by reflex264 has done alot of Doe culling with that bullet.

yep i happen to know reflex264 well and was there for a lot of that doe culling. the 130 accubond did some things at 400 yards we are still scratching our heads about. the computers could not make numerical sense of what the bullet was actually doing. i am hoping that the 140 will do even more strange trajectory tricks.

[nomosendero]

I look forward to hearing about that.