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i urge all of you to look at the election being held next week in Massachusetts to fill Ted Kennedys seat in the Senate. Why? There is a Republican running neck and neck against the leading Democrat. If that Republican Scoot P. Brown wins that would end the domination with 60 votes by the Democrats. it would stop many of the plans they have possibly including health care.

if he gets it it would be a historic and extremly important victory for all of the Republicans and even the tea party boys. in my opinion his election his crucial to people like me that believe the obama agenda must be stopped.

i wonder what DEE would do here? if this man is not 100% his way of thinking..not vote  and insure the election of an extremly left wing Democrat. or take the lessor of the two and defeat the opbama agenda with someone less than perfect?

this election brings that line of thinking to the forefront those choices that whole line of reasoning.

i urge you to read about it and if you live there and have a vote take a good look at this guy and the possibility that he holds the key to stopping the leftist agenda. very very important election for us all.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2010, 10:47:30 PM »
Granted it is an important Election but the people of massatwoshirts have kept ted kenedy in office for all these years I'm seriously doubting their heads will be pulled out far enough to see the need to do something constructive. After all they thought the world of ted kennedy. The death of Mary Jo Kopeckny did not phase them. and yea it still bugs me! I would like to see anybody but a ted kennedy clone in office there.

Go ahead Dan tell him how the cow eats the cabbage!
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2010, 02:14:19 AM »
Both the Democrat and the Republican in that election are anti-gunners.  Both are long time political hacks.  In PRMA nearly all of the Republican legislators are anti-gunners simply because a pro-gunner cannot get elected to the legislature there. 

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2010, 03:05:22 AM »
This shouldn't be a difficult decision.  When faced with a choice between the lesser of two evils and the much worser of two evils, it should be a no-brainer.  But that's just me.
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2010, 04:34:08 AM »
This is not an important election because a democrat will be elected, and that will give us the same results as having any other Massachusetts democrat in the senate.
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2010, 12:31:07 PM »
not so sure about the democrat winning as they say ...the issue is in doubt. if the republican does win man that would be something and would send chills up and down the jelly spines of the democrats in that state and the nation.

if the republican is anti gun that is just what i am talking about..hes not 100% my way of thinking so what should i do? not vote and make certain the far left maintains control or vote for the lessor of the two evils and perhaps change history?

at this time this man does have a chance of winning and if he dies it would be historic in the state and would affect all the nation.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2010, 12:47:50 PM »


at this time this man does have a chance of winning and if he dies it would be historic in the state and would affect all the nation.


Are you sure that is what you meant to say? :D

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2010, 02:51:49 PM »
I'd like a conservative to win.
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2010, 04:20:18 PM »


at this time this man does have a chance of winning and if he dies it would be historic in the state and would affect all the nation.


Are you sure that is what you meant to say? :D



 ;D  Well if he wins and dies we are back to square one huh?    ;D
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2010, 10:47:19 PM »
lol....christ i never said i could type or spell....lmao

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2010, 11:19:07 PM »
yep one consevative, in there would, i think be a step in the right direction..slim
 wonder what jese helms is thinking ,,if he can see us now.. slim
  he was always a thorn in the anti gunners side.he never gave them an inch.. unlike some
 progun congressmen we have seen.
 redtail you tolerate my misstakes an i ll tolerate yours..heck you must be human.. ;)slim
  
 

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2010, 06:13:02 AM »
if you saw me you might really wonder..did that boy drink too much water from the Neches river? ...lol

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2010, 02:34:10 PM »
i urge all of you to look at the election being held next week in Massachusetts to fill Ted Kennedys seat in the Senate. Why? There is a Republican running neck and neck against the leading Democrat. If that Republican Scoot P. Brown wins that would end the domination with 60 votes by the Democrats. it would stop many of the plans they have possibly including health care.

As Scott Brown brought up yesterday, it is the people's seat, not Ted Kennedy's seat. More power to him. If  the election is close and the Dems lose, the Democrats will pull a Minnesota two-step and get a Democrat seated in time for a health care vote. If the Republican wins in a runaway (highly unlikely) they'll stall to seat Brown, making sure the health care vote goes on in a filibuster-proof Congress; all important prior to Barry's State of the Union address (which we all should boycott watching).

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2010, 03:45:15 PM »
I'd like a conservative to win.

Wrong State for that to happen.
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2010, 04:29:45 PM »
Yea fellas as much as it sounds good, Those folks up there haven't voted republican since 72 someone said today. But I'm trying to keep the good vibes going!  8)
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2010, 04:40:44 PM »
I was in reference to Conservatives, not Republicans.
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2010, 04:52:03 PM »
I dont think the people of Massachusetts will make that distinction. But hey, if they do and he wins fine by me. I'm not so sure he is conservative, didn't i see where he is anti gun?
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2010, 07:03:29 AM »
oldshooter:

have not looked at his record but someone did say he was anti gun. right now if he could stop this mad rush to socialise the nation that would be good enough and then we could deal with the other.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2010, 07:43:35 AM »
oldshooter:

have not looked at his record but someone did say he was anti gun. right now if he could stop this mad rush to socialise the nation that would be good enough and then we could deal with the other.

sHHHHHH! You know how Dee hates it when we vote for the lessor evil, much less a lessor eveil that is anti gun!  :D

At this point i'd vote for jimmy Carter again for some relief!  :o  ;)
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2010, 03:02:48 PM »
Being from Taxachusetts, I will support Mr. Brown. who is gun owner friendly. He has been backed by our local grass root of the NRA. Gun Owners Action league. His opponent  is nothing  more than a liberal tax and spend gun grabbing SOB. She was a lousy attorney general of this state also and will continue on the Kennedy way of doing business.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2010, 03:08:46 PM »
buffermop:

thanks for putting the record straight on this man. i am glad to hear he supports gun owners. i sure hope that he wins it would really upset the Obama agenda.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2010, 03:17:51 PM »
Just curious, for those who say he is not Pro-Gun, please present the info, his record.
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2010, 03:34:37 PM »
I actually know nothing about the man except that he has a military background. I hope he wins ans I hope is is pro gun. Frankly it will surprise me though!
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2010, 07:11:38 PM »
i have spoken of the awakining of the people, frankly i am surprised that the people in Mass. could be brought out of such a deep sleep. if they do elect him it would show the depth of this rebellion of the people against the Obama Agenda.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2010, 07:14:51 PM »
just a little info about him

Senator BrownState Senator Scott Brown has led the fight in Massachusetts against wasteful government spending and higher taxes. He is a free-market advocate who believes our strength as a nation flows from its people. He believes in a culture of family, patriotism and freedom. At his September 12 announcement of candidacy for the U.S. Senate, Senator Brown articulated a core set of beliefs that guide his thinking.

•Government is too big and that the federal stimulus bill made government bigger instead of creating jobs
•Taxes are too high and are going higher if Congress continues with its out-of-control spending
•The historic amount of debt we are passing on to our children and grandchildren is immoral
•Power concentrated in the hands of one political party, as it is here in Massachusetts, leads to bad government and poor decisions
•A strong military and vigorous homeland defense will protect our interests and security around the world and at home
•All Americans deserve health care, but we shouldn't have to create a new government insurance program to provide it

Senator Brown is a proud member of the Massachusetts National Guard, where he has served for nearly three decades and currently holds the rank of Lt. Colonel in the Judge Advocate Generals (JAG) Corps. Brown was awarded the Army Commendation Medal for meritorious service in homeland security following the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. His career in public service began as selectman in Wrentham. He then went on to serve three terms as a State Representative and won his current State Senate seat in a special election in 2004. He is currently in his third Senate term.
 
In 2004, Senator Brown received the  Public Servant of the Year Award from the United Chamber of Commerce for his leadership in reforming the state's sex offender laws and protecting the rights of victims. He has also been recognized by the National Federation of Independent Businesses (NFIB) for his work in creating an environment that encourages job growth and expansion in Massachusetts.

Senator Brown is a graduate of Wakefield High School, Tufts University, and Boston College Law School. He lives in Wrentham, MA with his wife Gail and their two daughters, Ayla, a student at Boston College, and Arianna, a student at Syracuse University.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2010, 07:18:23 PM »
Seems like someone was wrong on the guns these are his stated positions:

IssuesWhy I'm Running...
America is a great country but we also have some challenges that we need to solve if we're going to remain the world's superpower. The most important of our challenges is getting the U.S. economy moving again. People are hurting as they struggle to make ends meet. They're worried about their future, and that of their children and grandchildren. I want to ensure that we leave them an America that is financially stronger and independent: minus a national debt that we can never repay.


Health Care
I believe that all Americans deserve health care coverage, but I am opposed to the health care legislation that is under consideration in Congress and will vote against it. It will raise taxes, increase government spending and lower the quality of care, especially for elders on Medicare. I support strengthening the existing private market system with policies that will drive down costs and make it easier for people to purchase affordable insurance. In Massachusetts, I support the 2006 healthcare law that was successful in expanding coverage, but I also recognize that the state must now turn its attention to controlling costs.


Economy
I am a free enterprise advocate who believes that lower taxes can encourage economic growth. Raising taxes stifles growth, weakens the economy and puts more people out of work. Our economy works best when individuals have more of their income to spend, and businesses have money to invest and add jobs. I have been a fiscal watchdog in the state legislature fighting bigger government, higher taxes and wasteful spending.

Energy and Environment
I support common-sense environment policy that will help to reduce pollution and preserve our precious open spaces. I realize that without action now, future generations will be left to clean up the mess we leave. In order to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, I support reasonable and appropriate development of alternative energy sources such as wind, solar, nuclear, geothermal and improved hydroelectric facilities. I oppose a national cap and trade program because of the higher costs that families and businesses would incur.

Education
I am passionate about improving the quality of our public schools. Accountability and high standards are paramount. I support choice through charter schools, as well as the MCAS exam as a graduation requirement. I have worked to ensure that all children have access to a quality education. I am a strong advocate for the METCO program, which provides lower income students with broader educational opportunities.

Immigration
I recognize that our strength as a nation is built on the immigrant experience in America. I welcome legal immigration to this country. However, we are also a nation of laws and government should not adopt policies that encourage illegal immigration. Providing driver’s licenses and in-state tuition to illegal immigrant families will act as a magnet in drawing more people here in violation of the law and it will impose new costs on taxpayers. I oppose amnesty, and I believe we ought to strengthen our border enforcement and institute an employment verification system with penalties for companies that hire illegal immigrants.

Veterans
As a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army National Guard, I am uniquely aware of the importance and sacrifice of our men and women serving in the military. I have been a vigorous supporter of legislation providing benefits to returning service members, as well as, benefits for the families of those killed in action. I believe we need to recognize the sacrifice of all of our servicemembers by keeping better track of returning military personnel so they get the services they deserve. That includes providing them with first-class medical care and other benefits to which they are entitled. I am known as a leader on veterans' issues through my work on the Veterans and Federal Affairs Committee, the Hidden Wounds of War Commission, and the Governor's Task Force on Returning Veterans.

Gun issues
I support the Second Amendment and believe that citizens have the right to keep and bear arms as a basic constitutional liberty. I support safe and responsible gun ownership.

Death penalty
I believe there are some crimes that are so heinous that they deserve capital punishment. Our Government should have the ability to impose the death penalty in cases where it is justified.

Abortion
While this decision should ultimately be made by the woman in consultation with her doctor, I believe we need to reduce the number of abortions in America. I believe government has the responsibility to regulate in this area and I support parental consent and notification requirements and I oppose partial birth abortion. I also believe there are people of good will on both sides of the issue and we ought to work together to support and promote adoption as an alternative to abortion.

Marriage
I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. States should be free to make their own laws in this area, so long as they reflect the people's will as expressed through them directly, or as expressed through their elected representatives.

Israel
Israel has made enormous sacrifices in an attempt to secure peace – including unilateral withdrawal from Gaza.  I support a two-state solution that reaffirms Israel’s right to exist and provides the Palestinians with a place of their own where both sides can live in peace and security.  As our closest ally in the Middle East, Israel lives every day under the threat of terror yet shares with America a dedication to democratic ideals, a respect for faith, and a commitment to peace in the region. Until a lasting peace is achieved, I support the security barrier erected by Israel which has proven successful in protecting Israeli civilians from terrorist attacks.

Iran
I support the bi-partisan Iran sanctions bill and believe that until Ahmadinejad gives up his nuclear ambitions he should be isolated from the rest of the world. With its reckless pursuit of nuclear weapons, Iran represents the biggest threat to Israel. Ahmadinejad is a Holocaust denier who has threatened to wipe Israel off the map. Meeting with him confers legitimacy when the only correct response is to treat him as an outcast.  A personal meeting with Ahmadinejad, as suggested by my opponent, would embolden him and be used as a propaganda tool to strengthen his position.

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2010, 07:42:01 PM »
Last thing I heard was that he was ahead in the polls. Lets keep our fingers crossed and dead bodies and Acorn from voting. gypsyman
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2010, 04:03:40 AM »
Last thing I heard was that he was ahead in the polls. Lets keep our fingers crossed and dead bodies and Acorn from voting. gypsyman

Yep me too! one poll shows him a 4 point leader. SEND MONEY!!!
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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2010, 04:18:29 AM »
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Gun issues
I support the Second Amendment and believe that citizens have the right to keep and bear arms as a basic constitutional liberty. I support safe and responsible gun ownership.


Strange that Obama said the same thing. 

I watched a debate the other day between Coakley and Brown.  An (R) after the name of a political perp does not automatically guarantee the he/she is  a pro-gunner. 

Brown wants to:

1.  Close the nonexistent "gun show loophole".
2.  Gun registration.
3.  Claims he is in favor of concealed carry, but does not want shall issue.
4.  Wants an "assault weapons ban".


http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Scott_Brown_Gun_Control.htm

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Rep. Brown indicated he supports the following principles concerning gun issues:

Allow citizens to carry concealed guns.
Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks on guns.
Require background checks on gun sales between private citizens at gun shows.
Require a license for gun possession.
 

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Re: The importance to us all of the 2010 Massachusetts Senate Election
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2010, 08:28:33 AM »
OK then, dont send money!  ???   ::)
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