Author Topic: field carriage progress (Read 2481 times)

little seacoast · « **on:** January 17, 2010, 09:10:02 AM »

I'm going to try to post a picture or two of the #1 Carriage that I am building for my Dominick Carpenter half scale Parrott- arriving soon. . Many thanks to Robert of Colorado for his patient answers to many questions.

little seacoast · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2010, 09:15:24 AM »

field carriage in progress for half scale Parrott

little seacoast · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2010, 09:19:24 AM »

just started cutting, finally remembered the powder can.

RocklockI · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2010, 11:54:26 AM »

Thats looking very nice ! Where did the wheels come from ? they look good too .

dynomike1x1 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 17, 2010, 12:00:31 PM »

Looks good. Are you sure about those trunnion plates thats alot of kick right there?

Soot · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2010, 01:48:08 PM »

That does look good. I like the wheels, they have that authentic offset that looks so much better than wheels without it.

little seacoast · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:31:27 PM »

Hi DynoMike, The trunnion straps and cap squares are made of 1/4" steel by Dominick for this particular cannon and are inletted into 2" thick oak cheeks. They are vertically secured with 1/2" steel bolts through the entire cheek so I hope they'll be up to the task. First few shots will tell I guess. New pics to follow shortly. Regards, LS

GGaskill · « **Reply #7 on:** January 17, 2010, 05:57:24 PM »

Here's the deal. The original style trunnion irons wrap around the front of the cheeks and the forward bolt goes through both top and bottom. This arrangement causes the whole front of the cheek to resist the recoil, not just that part directly behind the trunnion. By having a short iron as in the picture, the recoil will be taken up by the bolts and the wood immediately behind them and the top rear of the cheek wood directly behind the trunnion. If you are firing live shot, you will get splits behind the bolts and the top piece will crack behind the trunnion.

It would be much better for the lower iron to wrap around the front of the cheek.

dynomike1x1 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2010, 03:20:55 AM »

Thats what i was thinking G.. What do the roundels really do? I am sure they absorb shock but i am not exactly sure where or how. Everyone knows that Oak is hard, but it splits easy,that was my concern about the trunnion plates might split might not you are not only dealing w/ pressure you are also dealing w/ vibration, full plates arent that hard to build tourch & hammer and drill press built mine.Just my thoughts.

little seacoast · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2010, 04:15:56 AM »

Thanks for your constructive (pun) comments guys. The pieces for wrap arounds are completed and I'll ask the neighbor to weld them on. Any other suggestions gratefully accepted, I'd rather do it right the first time.

Zulu · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2010, 04:25:07 AM »

You will be happy you did this. The end result will reflect every hour of effort you put into it. It looks like it is coming along nicely.
Zulu

Max Caliber · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2010, 06:38:42 AM »

Bolts in a gun carriage almost never directly bear the forces of recoil, they are there to tightly hold everything together. The wood carriage members, which are keyed and tightly fitted together carry the recoil load which is transmitted to them by trunnion sockets, rondelles and other metal parts.

Rondelles in a Civil War field piece are of two types, the rear rondelles have projections on each side which are mortised, both into the cheek pieces and into the trail, and they alone transmit the force of recoil from the cheeks into the trail. The front two pair of rondelles are made with flat sides and act as spacers only and do not carry any recoil load.

little seacoast · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2010, 02:14:38 PM »

Hardware has all been updated/fabricated. The guys at the machine shop want to see it and try a few rounds when it's together. Dom got my barrel finished and delivered , #2010-1, he says it's the last half scale for the time being. Just barely squeaked in under the wire on that one. More pics to follow

shortly.

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2010, 08:47:25 PM »

That's a mighty fine looking elevator you've got there. Congrats on squeaking in under the wire and getting one of Dom's barrels.

little seacoast · « **Reply #14 on:** February 18, 2010, 01:31:25 PM »

Further progress but not "finished"- a few odds and ends to mount. Shot it today and the roar was impressive

, set off seveal local home alarms

.

Soot · « **Reply #15 on:** February 18, 2010, 01:49:15 PM »

Very nice, wish I had one.

brokenpole · « **Reply #16 on:** February 19, 2010, 11:50:02 AM »

Quote from: Soot on February 18, 2010, 01:49:15 PM

Very nice, wish I had one.

You know Soot...that is the greatest folly of this forum. My wife watches me as I look over all these new builds and just laughs at me.

Its not fair I tell ya...she is not the least bit kind when I go to show her the pictures of someones new mortar or cannon. She just laughs at me and tells me no.

It ain't fair I tell ya. She even sees me looking at this forum she just giggles.

Someone help me

dan610324 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 19, 2010, 12:24:20 PM »

get another wife

RocklockI · « **Reply #18 on:** February 19, 2010, 01:43:10 PM »

Dan , that is abit extreme !

A new wife ...just like that ..........hummmmm?

Brokenpole , B4 you take the advise of Dan .....

Do what I've done for years ........Lie and Layawy , No not 'lay in wait' thats something else

...Layaway . Dom will work with you ....?

Maybe other will too ! Besides Once she see's your other lover she will be pleased . THAT is the angle ! "Would you rather have me cheat and lie and do this or do that ......Behind your back ?" "...Now I ask ....WHO LOVES YOU BABY !"

She falls into your arms and swoons .."oh baby whatever makes you happy" . Then you look into the camera like Ralphie in "a christmas story" smile and wink .

Hope this helps Gary

Terry C. · « **Reply #19 on:** February 19, 2010, 01:59:50 PM »

Is this why cannoneers wear really high-topped boots?

RocklockI · « **Reply #20 on:** February 19, 2010, 02:33:02 PM »

Ya , I'm thinkin that's it allright ! But only ditch boots cause my stuff is only so deep .

Gary

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #21 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:27:58 PM »

How long is your HoneyDo list? Cannon could be closer than you think.

Soot · « **Reply #22 on:** February 19, 2010, 03:47:24 PM »

Quote from: dan610324 on February 19, 2010, 12:24:20 PM

get another wife

This one looks very useful.
[img width= height=]http://www.fscclub.com/strength/images/strong-ali-braco.jpg[/img]
Click on Pic
Madame Ali-Braco ("The woman-cannon"). This powerful woman worked in the circus world since 1875. She was an expert in acrobatics, but the most of her famous stunts was demonstrations of her strength with a cannon, which was placed on her shoulders. In the other action, she hung upside down leaning on a trapezium by her legs and lifting a heavy cannon held by the teeth (without using the hands).

dan610324 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2010, 04:07:18 PM »

the woman or the cannon ??
you can only choose one of them
I will take the other

carronader · « **Reply #24 on:** February 19, 2010, 10:56:18 PM »

Get your pole fixed !

Zulu · « **Reply #25 on:** February 20, 2010, 02:38:20 AM »

Quote from: Soot on February 19, 2010, 03:47:24 PM

Quote from: dan610324 on February 19, 2010, 12:24:20 PM
get another wife
This one looks very useful.
[img width= height=]http://www.fscclub.com/strength/images/strong-ali-braco.jpg[/img]
Click on Pic
Madame Ali-Braco ("The woman-cannon"). This powerful woman worked in the circus world since 1875. She was an expert in acrobatics, but the most of her famous stunts was demonstrations of her strength with a cannon, which was placed on her shoulders. In the other action, she hung upside down leaning on a trapezium by her legs and lifting a heavy cannon held by the teeth (without using the hands).

Maybe it was a wooden barrel.

My wife can do that with one of my barrels.

Zulu

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #26 on:** February 22, 2010, 03:18:03 PM »

Quote from: brokenpole on February 19, 2010, 11:50:02 AM

....

Someone help me

Have her give my wife a call

Asron87 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 22, 2010, 05:28:02 PM »

Cat Whisperer,

If that is your wife smiling next to your sidebyside cannon... don't ever leave her. Me on the other hand. I can't even get my lady friend to give me an honest opinion on which cannon looks better than the other. So I think I'm going to have to go with dan610324 advice if I'm going to be committed to my cannoneering. At least I'm not married yet if I need to choose one over the other.

RocklockI · « **Reply #28 on:** February 22, 2010, 05:38:54 PM »

if shes the right gal ....you need to educate her in the ways of appreciating a nice cannon .

If not .....Dans the man !

Cat Whisperer · « **Reply #29 on:** February 23, 2010, 01:16:22 AM »

Quote from: Asron87 on February 22, 2010, 05:28:02 PM

Cat Whisperer,

If that is your wife smiling next to your sidebyside cannon... don't ever leave her. Me on the other hand. I can't even get my lady friend to give me an honest opinion on which cannon looks better than the other. So I think I'm going to have to go with dan610324 advice if I'm going to be committed to my cannoneering. At least I'm not married yet if I need to choose one over the other.

To whom you're married is one of the three major decisions in life. It took me till I was 37 to find the RIGHT one. WELL worth the wait.

Bought her a .357 before I bought her a ring - some things one HAS to check out.