I reload the red aa's and the dark grey ones that are the light target load and they work ok for me.I just loaded a couple boxes that were what I would call a light silver color that said super handicap on them,a co-worker didn't want to load them.I think some people have problems with them.I have had good luck using Lt blue claybuster copies of the windjammer in these hulls and my loader is a Mec sizemaster.There are loads for them on the winchester -hogdon ammunition and reloading site.I load these and mostly gun clubs and a few federals and load them all the same,kind of in the middle of the range on the load chart. Also over at shotgunworld.com they have a thread right now in their reloading forum about aa's.