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The Lawyer's Party
« on: January 18, 2010, 09:15:08 AM »
I am not saying that all Lawyers are Demos, but a large p[ortion of those that I know are. Perhaps this is why so many physicians are conservatives or Republicans. 



The Lawyers' Party
 By Bruce Walker
 The Democratic Party has become the Lawyers’ Party . 
 Barack Obama is a lawyer.
 Michelle Obama is a lawyer.
 Hillary Clinton is a lawyer. 
 Bill Clinton is a lawyer.
 John Edwards is a lawyer. 
 Elizabeth Edwards is a lawyer.
 Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went to law school (although Gore did not graduate).
 Every Democrat vice presidential nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Bentsen, went to law school.
 Look at leaders of the Democrat Party in Congress: 
 Harry Reid is a lawyer. 
 Nancy Pelosi is a lawyer.
 
 The Republican Party is different. 
 President Bush is a businessman. 
 Vice President Cheney is a businessman.
 The leaders of the Republican Revolution: 
 Newt Gingrich was a history professor.
 Tom Delay was an exterminator. Dick Armey was an economist. 
 House Minority Leader Boehner was a plastic manufacturer. 
 The former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.
 Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer?  Gerald Ford, who left office 31 years ago and who barely won the Republican nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan in 1976. 
 
 The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work, who are often the targets of lawyers.
 The Democrat Party is made up of lawyers.  Democrats mock and scorn men who create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick, like Frist, or who immerse themselves in history, like Gingrich.
 
 The Lawyers’ Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and services that people want, as the enemies of America .  And, so we have seen the procession of official enemies, in the eyes of the Lawyers’ Party, grow.
 
 Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail?  Pharmaceutical companies, oil companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains, large retail businesses, bankers, and anyone producing anything of value in our nation.
 
 This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the eyes of lawyers. 
 Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their clients, in this case the American people. 
 Lawyers seek to have new laws passed, they seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn precedent, and lawyers always parse language to favor their side.
 
 Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine.  But it is an awful way to govern a great nation. 
 When politicians as lawyers begin to view some Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then the role of the legal system in our life becomes all-consuming.  Some Americans become “adverse parties” of our very government.  We are not all litigants in some vast social class-action suit.  We are citizens of a republic that promises us a great deal of freedom from laws, from courts, and from lawyers.
 
 Today, we are drowning in laws; we are contorted by judicial decisions; we are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of our once private lives.   America  has a place for laws and lawyers, but that place is modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked.  When the most important decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the Supreme Court, the role of lawyers and the law in  America  is too big.  When lawyers use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other means, as happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the power of lawyers in America is too great.  When House Democrats sue  America  in order to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to do to us, then the role of litigation in  America  has become crushing.
 
 We cannot expect the Lawyers’ Party to provide real change, real reform or real hope in America Most Americans know that a republic in which every major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges is not what  Washington intended in 1789.  Most Americans grasp that we cannot fight a war when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders.  Most Americans intuit that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral values or spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy.
 
 Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to our nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American society and business.  Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work.  Perhaps Americans will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only make our problems worse.
 
 The  United States  has 5% of the world’s population and 66% of the world’s lawyers! Tort (Legal) reform legislation has been introduced in congress several times in the last several years to limit punitive damages in ridiculous lawsuits such as “spilling hot coffee on yourself and suing the establishment that sold it to you” and also to limit punitive damages in huge medical malpractice lawsuits. This legislation has continually been blocked from even being voted on by the Democrat Party. When you see that 97% of the political contributions from the American Trial Lawyers Association goes to the Democrat Party, then you realize who is responsible for our medical and product costs being so high!



 


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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 12:15:22 PM »
that about hits the nail on the head.
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 12:30:08 PM »
seems to true to believe.
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 02:10:56 PM »
And you wonder why tort reform isn't part of "healthcare reform"
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 02:14:07 PM »
Its no secret that the Trail Lawyers Association of America have the democrate party in their back pocket. Lawyers love litigation. It makes them rich and the democrate party take huge donations from the Trail Layers association.
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2010, 04:04:34 AM »
Its no secret that the Trail Lawyers Association of America have the democrate party in their back pocket. Lawyers love litigation. It makes them rich and the democrate party take huge donations from the Trail Layers association.

While at the same time the article shows just why the republican party is basically in the back pocket of big business and corporate "donors".  Trust me, if you're looking for a party with personal freedoms and the good of the American citizen (rather than corporate overlords) in mind, then you're not going to find it in the Democrats OR the Republicans.  About the only thing the Republicans have going for them in my regard is that they (currently) support gun rights, but as I once heard another person on another board say "It's kinda like that uncle you had that molested you all your life but then paid your college tuition.  Sure he might have given you something in return, but does that forgive everything else?". 

I'm still looking for a decent compromise. They're not perfect (far from it), but the Libertarian Party is the closest I've found.

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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2010, 05:11:55 AM »
The business of the law, is to make more business for the law - and electing lawyers just makes it easier for them to legislate more business for themselves.

I can't get too excited about the winner in the Mass. senate race - he's a damned divorce lawyer. They don't get much lower than that, do they? Divorce lawyers have truly benefited from that make more business for the law bit.

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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2010, 05:43:27 AM »
This is good , democrats = lawyer = lawsuits that take money from business = business out of business = employees out of work .
Republicans = big business = profit = more jobs .
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2010, 05:44:36 AM »
Its no secret that the Trail Lawyers Association of America have the democrate party in their back pocket. Lawyers love litigation. It makes them rich and the democrate party take huge donations from the Trail Layers association.

While at the same time the article shows just why the republican party is basically in the back pocket of big business and corporate "donors".  Trust me, if you're looking for a party with personal freedoms and the good of the American citizen (rather than corporate overlords) in mind, then you're not going to find it in the Democrats OR the Republicans.  About the only thing the Republicans have going for them in my regard is that they (currently) support gun rights, but as I once heard another person on another board say "It's kinda like that uncle you had that molested you all your life but then paid your college tuition.  Sure he might have given you something in return, but does that forgive everything else?". 

I'm still looking for a decent compromise. They're not perfect (far from it), but the Libertarian Party is the closest I've found.

I in no way disagree with what you are saying, don't know witch way to go,
BUT when i hear about the big business party i have to laugh. I have for the
last 30 years have been in the business of buying and sell trucks and trailers
i have never bought one from a lawyer. They seem to always come from busineses, not all big business, but most trickle down from there.
Had a friend that worked for Bell Helicopter (to me that's big) he cussed
big business constantly, when i ask why he worked for bell he  shut up.
I have never had a lawyer send me a check.
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2010, 05:46:07 AM »
Its no secret that the Trail Lawyers Association of America have the democrate party in their back pocket. Lawyers love litigation. It makes them rich and the democrate party take huge donations from the Trail Layers association.
You are right... but remember that trial lawyers make up a relatively small percentage of lawyers... But agree with the premise... particularly about the lack of tort reform...

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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2010, 05:57:43 AM »
Its no secret that the Trail Lawyers Association of America have the democrate party in their back pocket. Lawyers love litigation. It makes them rich and the democrate party take huge donations from the Trail Layers association.
You are right... but remember that trial lawyers make up a relatively small percentage of lawyers... But agree with the premise... particularly about the lack of tort reform...

Duk,
I think you may have a "dog in this fight", as they say.   :)
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2010, 06:34:19 AM »
Its no secret that the Trail Lawyers Association of America have the democrate party in their back pocket. Lawyers love litigation. It makes them rich and the democrate party take huge donations from the Trail Layers association.
You are right... but remember that trial lawyers make up a relatively small percentage of lawyers... But agree with the premise... particularly about the lack of tort reform...

Duk,
I think you may have a "dog in this fight", as they say.   :)
I do not.  I'm not a trial lawyer as the term is used (technically a divorce lawyer or traffic lawyer could be called a trial lawyer because they may take part in trials but that is not the meaning of the term).  I'm not a member of any trial lawyers association.  I was only trying to point out the fact that trial lawyers make up a very small percentage of attorneys.  I can't speak for the exact numbers today, but when I graduated law school roughly half of all graduates never even practiced law.

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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2010, 06:49:44 AM »
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I have never had a lawyer send me a check.

Now on occasion they do send checks, but it is not the norm, Its kinda like Casinos paying out big winnings , It aint why they are there!  ;D

No doubt there is a critical need for Lawyers, unfortunately................. mostly cause there are lawyers!   ;)

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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2010, 06:53:19 AM »
The Lawyer's Prayer:

"Lord, please stir up strife and enmity amongst thy people, lest thy servant perish! And Lord, know that thy servant is willing and anxious to stir up that strife and enmity, wherever thou art unwilling..."

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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2010, 07:39:39 AM »
I in no way disagree with what you are saying, don't know witch way to go,
BUT when i hear about the big business party i have to laugh. I have for the
last 30 years have been in the business of buying and sell trucks and trailers
i have never bought one from a lawyer. They seem to always come from busineses, not all big business, but most trickle down from there.
Had a friend that worked for Bell Helicopter (to me that's big) he cussed
big business constantly, when i ask why he worked for bell he  shut up.
I have never had a lawyer send me a check.

Of course they send checks - businesses are about money.  The thing is though, money and freedom are seperate things, and I care about the latter more than the former.  You see, businesses love to lobby and pass regulations that keep your money flowing to them.  Sure they pay a little of that money out to their employees, but a far, far (FAR) greater portion goes to overpaid CEO's whose goal these days is typically to inflate stock prices high enough that the shareholders can dump the stock and then sell out.

For instance, you have big communications companies suing municpalities for trying to start up their own internet services.  Many of these companies refuse to service the area, or offer service well below par (United States broadband is utterly PATHETIC in terms of speed when compared to Europe or Japan).  The residents try to solve their own problem collectively though and the business pitches a fit.

Or copyright cartels for example.  When you buy a blank CD marked as a "Music CDR" (or any blank CD in Canada), a portion of your price is going not to the manufacturer, but to copyright cartels who assume that if you're buying a blank disc, you're going to use it to copy something of theirs (nevermind the ton of public domain music, data, and other stuff out there that is perfectly legitimate to use CD's for and doesn't involve them).  HOWEVER, even though you paid them already by buying the CD, they ALSO have managed to get it so that they can still sue you if you get caught copying it.  So essentially you're already paying for a crime whether you commit it or not, but you pay again if you actually commit it.

Or take the Digital Millennium Copyright Act for example.  This garbage legislation was pushed through by big business lobbyists, and makes it a crime to reverse engineer or break any copy protection scheme, even if the reason you are doing so is LEGAL.  For instance, I use the Linux operating system on my computers.  It's a good system, but most of the software on it is written by volunteers and given away freely (which drives software companies up a wall - can't have people sharing software they write on their own instead of buying from them . . .).  Now, like users on Windows or Mac, I may wish to view a DVD on my Linux machine.  I need a software player, and there are plenty of nice people that have written software that will play my DVD on my Linux machine.  It's illegal though.  Despite me owning the movie, a volunteer writing a program to play it, it's illegal because it has to decrypt the media without corporate approval.

Or the Palladium/Trusted Computing initiative which is being pushed by several large technology companies.  What this is is an iniative to try and setup your computer so that binaries (programs) must be digitally signed by a trusted authority in order to run.  Know that that means?  People can't run software they write themselves anymore.  Only large companies that could afford to get their programs sent in and signed would be able to distribute software.

The list goes on and on, and there are countless examples from multiple industries (a lot of mine are from the computer industry because that's where I work and I'm heavily into computers as a hobby as well).

To big business you are a consumer, not a citizen, and they'll use everything in their power (including lobbying and legislation) to make sure you continue to act like a good little consumer. 

They're a different kind of a tyrant, but a tyrant nonetheless.

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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2010, 11:39:56 AM »
Good post MG
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2010, 02:13:14 AM »
98% of lawyers give the rest a bad name !
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2010, 02:54:16 AM »
98% of lawyers give the rest a bad name !

Now that's funny--right there.  But true.
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Re: The Lawyer's Party
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2010, 05:27:20 AM »
98% of lawyers give the rest a bad name !

Now that's funny--right there.  But true.
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I would argue the pecentage is much higher! Let's give credit where credit is due!
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