AFRICAN AMERICAN.

[sagegrouse715]

It is real simple. Just google James David Manning and read his history.  He spent 3 1/2 years in the pen. He was a thief. You won't find Van Jones having spent time in prison. He was involved in some groups that were extremely liberal, but that isn't criminal.   

I don't like to have the truth distorted or slanted by someone's agenda.

[45-70.gov]

remember  the party at the white  house  where that couple snuck  in?

were there any  convicted  felons  at that party?

convicted felons  contributing to the health care bill?

[williamlayton]

Talking to a wall?
I that the level of your ability to look at a subject and discuss it.
I'm still waiting----and yes---this is a bait/confrontation.
You have no defense Cabin.
Blessings

[slim rem 7]

well ,,my geneology don t mention it,but dad told me there was a decendant who lived on the
cataba river,,that was married to the napiest haired indian the family ever saw..
 could be why this ole boy could jump like a kangaroo when younger..
  i do know dad had the blackest hair ive ever seen..right curly too..
 hybrid vitality is supposed to be a good thing..
 its good enough to just call me a tarhill..slim

[Cabin4]

Talking to a wall?
I that the level of your ability to look at a subject and discuss it.
I'm still waiting----and yes---this is a bait/confrontation.
You have no defense Cabin.
Blessings

No defense of what William? Saying that all races are subject to failure is indefensible? Saying that if we are going to provide assistance to only one race and not another because they have the wrong skin color, this in defensible? Pointing out the failures of the black areas and how they need to accept responsibility for their own actions just like the rest of us have to in this country, this is indefensible in your opinion? Anyone...that would say these are indefensible points is not worth talking to. You are far past any point of discussion, you are brain washed.

Your right, I don't want to continue this with you. You are like talking to a wall. Why don't you team up with Sharpton and Jackson. They could always use another marshmallow lap dog to help them advance worthy causes like restitution, racial quotas, racial preferances and wealth redistribution. I'm sure you could crawl to them on your knees begging to help instead of wasting your time typing posts to me.

[Elijah Gunn]

I haven't read through all of this thread, but I found this. Yes, there are some americans of african ancestry who understand what's going on, and what the real problems are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWZcy0baCsU

[williamlayton]

Welare helps no one to succeed.
Welfare was given to keep them down.
White mans way of keeping them in line.
Now we can spend our welfare money better, and, there is a reason for welfare, as has been pointed out.
We created this welfare mess and the only way out of it is to discontinue it. See some white folks bought into it also.
I will maintain that given a chance--and we have seen this since the civl rights act of 1964--they will intergrate into society.
Pointing out the failures as being the norm is an incorrect arguement--and indefenceable.
But saying they can't compete is just as indefenceable.
There will always be those who fall into the abyss but feeding the abyss is not the answer.
What do we do with those who are in the abyss---regarless of race, creed, color--now?
Cut off welfare cold turkey?
Find a way too wean them as some do with cigarettes?
I don't have answers but I do know that they can compete if not held down by prejudice.
Blessings

[45-70.gov]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWZcy0baCsU

now he should be  praised as a black  leader

but  he  will  be  ignored

prove  my  wrong  and  send  this link to  a few friends

[yellowtail3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1sJDhJ-6iE
is  his  man  a racist???
he  sure  attacks  ''black  culture''
why  is  he  not considered  a black  leader??

this guy Manning is an utter fruitcake, in my opinion. A pastor? Preacher? He's a unloving, nasty, obnoxious crank. Polemicist? Maybe? Pastor? Oh  brother...

[Cabin4]

Welare helps no one to succeed.
Welfare was given to keep them down.
White mans way of keeping them in line.
Now we can spend our welfare money better, and, there is a reason for welfare, as has been pointed out.
We created this welfare mess and the only way out of it is to discontinue it. See some white folks bought into it also.
I will maintain that given a chance--and we have seen this since the civl rights act of 1964--they will intergrate into society.
Pointing out the failures as being the norm is an incorrect arguement--and indefenceable.
But saying they can't compete is just as indefenceable.
There will always be those who fall into the abyss but feeding the abyss is not the answer.
What do we do with those who are in the abyss---regarless of race, creed, color--now?
Cut off welfare cold turkey?
Find a way too wean them as some do with cigarettes?
I don't have answers but I do know that they can compete if not held down by prejudice.
Blessings

I never said welfare was not equally distributed..... and I agree welfare is a long term poverty dependant tool. And while you call this the "White Man’s" way of keeping them down, it was the "Black Man" the his leadership that fought so hard to keep welfare in place!

I never said blacks can't compete....but I will not agree that given them an unfair advantage to compete is acceptable! Because if you do, that is not competition it's cheating!

Pointing out the failures of one group or another is only being a realist. If we are going to point out the failures of white people, we better point out failures of blacks. If we don't, the pervasive cultural and societal issues that continue to hold them back never get addressed.
.

[sagegrouse715]

45-70:

You insinuate there were convicted felons at a White House party recently.   Well, how many were there?  Name them. 

[45-70.gov]

45-70:

You insinuate there were convicted felons at a White House party recently.   Well, how many were there?  Name them. 

andy  stern  for  one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2aZ0JTFtc4

[yellowtail3]

I'm more inclined to invite a felon - once convicted, are you always a felon? - to my party, rather than a lawyer. Felons can repent, and be good people; lawyers remain lawyers.

[45-70.gov]

and  acorn  is predomenently  african  american

his  is  how  THEY  spend  YOUR  money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3vmcA4hKc

wow  lets  see  what  else  government  can  do

lets  make government bigger

don't  forget  OBAMA  was their  lawer
OBAMA  was  a community organizer too

[williamlayton]

Cabin
Now we are getting on the same page---well, at least the conversation is getting less scattered.
Culture.
Was there not confilcts in sulture ine the early days between Irish, Italians, Germans and Polish--not to mention Jews, Reformed and CAtholics? Probably still are, realistilcally.
Given the years and the acceptance that they were equal, are those differences not so magnified now?
The problem is, as I see it, that segregation formed a wall/barrier/US vs THEM mentality.
A FIX was the Civil Rights Act---which in some respects was not a fix and WAS seen as a cheat or advantage. NOW, I am not even saying that you are incorrect--I think that you are correct in many ways.
Was the FIX necessary? I say yes! It was a bitter pill too take for the majority race and it was abused to some degree. Not to the degree that some think, however.
What I am saying is that WE would not, on our own, make a change that was necessary. I won't argue the harshness of the act in some things-it is what it is because we would not soften to the change and we forced a confrontation.
In the long run, for this Nation, I think the change will prove to be good.
Blessings

[SHOOTALL]

Guess it ain't the whites mans way anymore as a white man ain't in charge .So now whats the excuse ?

[Cabin4]

Guess it ain't the whites mans way anymore as a white man ain't in charge .So now whats the excuse ?

There are no more barriers to success. Success and failure are equally there for us all. Obama is not the president of just black America. Besides, he's 50/50 anyway. His mother was white and father black.

[SHOOTALL]

Cabin the way things are going we will all be equally poor !

[Cabin4]

Cabin the way things are going we will all be equally poor !

I won't disagree with that.