What got me into mil-surps? $14 Carcano carbines, $19 SMLEs, M17s in the $22-29 range, Lugers, Walthers, Mauser C96s, Radoms, Berettas, Rubys, PPs and the like in the $25-45 range; but we're talking mid-60s and the adds on the back of the American Rifleman, and old guns hsops with foot lockers full of 45s or Webleys or P-38s. Guns shows where 20 y/o 45 ball was $2.00 a box and steel case was $1.50 or less, 200 gn 38 rn for just over $20 a case. Yep, that's what got me into mil-surps..........