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Wading through Grinners
« on: November 02, 2003, 11:44:02 PM »
Grinners in my garbage, Grinners in my garden and now Grinners in my traps!!! Does anyone know, is there any actual fur value to a Grinner? Are they worth anything these days? If anyone is interested in making a fur coat out of Opposum skins let me know I'll ship them to you free of charge anywhere in the US or Canada, carcass attached just in cases you want to make some stew. LOL :)

Whats the Stats on how many Opposum per square mile? Ha Ha Ha

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2003, 03:43:32 AM »
Mr Rascal is clearly the Grinner king  :-) on this forum I'm certian he will help.  Rumor is he has a new toy.  When he gets time he'll answer you unless he breaks his neck before! :roll:

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2003, 01:38:07 PM »
Every;
  Don't you listen to the WQ- he's got to much wax between his ears.  
  In reality, yes, I do catch some grinners.  Not that I want to but in my part of the world, they are a unwanted fact of trapping.  I manage to keep some out of my canine traps by only using post sets with urine.  But the fact is, if it stinks- a grinner likes it.  If it is sweet -- a grinner likes it.  If it is a dead cow this you can't hardly recognize and has "melted" into a big mushy goo -- you may find a grinner right up in it.  Old outhouse -- grinner down the hole.  So I have to put up with them until I get the most caught off a location.  I have caught grinners and catch a coyote, grey fox, coon, and cat using the same set a day or so later.  
 As far as the value goes -- I skin them!  I just can't seem to throw them away, but about the best a fur buyer in my area would pay might be $1 and it would have to be a pretty good one for that.  Oklahoma grinners just ain't worth much.  
  I guess I am of the old school that says "IF YOU CATCH IT AND KILL IT - THEN SKIN IT AND PUT IT UP".
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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2003, 01:58:04 PM »
I agree with Joe. I plan on skinning all my possums this year. They ain't worth much, but you can't get around catching a bunch of em so why not make a little extra money by skinning them. A possum is probably one of the most frequently caught animals. If they average a dollar or two and you catch a hundred a year that you throw out you have just lost a 100.00 bucks. Here in KY I have seen the bigger silvers go for 4-5$. That is as much as some coons go for. I guess it is where I'm young, short on supplies, and I NEED the extra money. It pays the gas bill, or atleast helps.

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« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2003, 05:46:03 PM »
I got 3.50 for my better possums last year . The way I see it , if your gonna put up rats for anywhere from 1.50 - 4.00 , wht not do the same for a possum , aint much different in putting up . I on the other hand am up to my ### in skunks .
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2003, 02:31:38 AM »
Holy Cow KY!! $4.00 -$5.00 for a Grinner?? Thats money in the pocket baby! I can see it now, I'm gonna be rich  :-D

All kidding aside. I agree with each and every one of you. If its caught in a trap it gets skinned. I'm about one for one with fox and opposum, but heck for $4.00 - $5.00 for a Grinner why trap anything else. It's a sure thing catching them buggers. Rascal, do you realy think it's possible to trap them "out" of a location? There is an endless supply of these things. Even at a buck a peice a man could get filthy rich.

Now if I could just get one of the students up the street at the culinary school to come up with a good recipe I might be able to start a new food trend for the city folk that are moving up this way. Heck I can see myself on the cooking channel right now. Opposum stew, Grinner fritters, corn dogged Grinners, Ginners with sardines on a cracker. Gotta go guys I'm making myself hungry. :-D
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trap them out?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2003, 03:08:18 AM »
Every;
  I don't say that you can trap them out completely.  But getting rid of a majority of them in a particular location will help keep them out of your good canine sets.
  It is my belief that not matter what you are trapping (coyote, bobcat, coon or even grinners) that while you may take a majority of animals from an area, you will never have that area go completely barren if the habitat is suitable for your targets.  My reasoning behind this belief is that even if you were able to completely catch everything in that immediate location, new ones would filter in.  This is the "transcient" theory.  In the late fall and winter, the families will disperse and the young are hunting a new "home" territory.  If their species has been trapped out of your location, the new young will move in to take over the territory.  Have you ever heard a farmer or rancher make the statement- "you may have caught some but you didn't get them all - I heard them yappin last night".  He heard the new dogs that had moved in.  Why else would many of the high rolling long liners set the same locations year after year after year with good results?  Canines will definitely migrate to a new location.   While this may not be noticable like you might see geese and ducks migrating, it still has been documented on a regular basis.  There are several factors which will determine the migration.  One being the dispersal of the family- another the amount of prey food source available- as well the pressure from various man made factors.  
  I think I can catch all the bobcat in a particular area, and by next season, there will be more in the same location that has set up a home range.  Sorry- got off on a tangient.  But to answer your question- No, I can't catch all the grinners in an area but can get the majority out of the way so that I can get good target hits of coyote, fox and cat.
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2003, 03:53:07 AM »
I just had a thought...yep, I now have a new business...for $500 I'll teach anyone how not to catch grinners.  The course will be on my working line.  I garantee success.  So good are my methods I've yet to have a grinner ruin a set for me. :D

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2003, 04:02:18 AM »
WQ:

  NOPE!  You can't have it (the instruction job).  That should be mine since I am possum king in my area :twisted:
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2003, 04:17:48 AM »
Stay on your side of the fence ya ole crow bait...you teach em how to and I'll teach em how not to.  I got a bunch of fool proof sets and they don't take grinners...well not once you know my secret. :wink:

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2003, 10:27:58 AM »
I put up a bunch of grinners last year.  And when I went to the furbuyer and got 2-3 bucks a piece for them they really started adding up.  Ill skin'em again this year!
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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2003, 11:52:51 AM »
Now Lets don't get carried away Every :)  I said the BEST possums brought 4-5$, and there wasn't vey many of the BEST possums. Most will bring 2-3$ with alot at one buck. But I don't care. Mine are getting skinned and put up this year. I will worry about the price at the fur auction.
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2003, 12:12:59 AM »
Ky,
What? Don't back down now. I think youv'e decided to take back what you said about the $5.00 Grinners because now the entire world wide web is gonna start trapping Grinners and your making a last ditch effort to start a Grinner conspiracy and keep all that fine fur for yourself. :-D

Should you want to become a long, long, long liner head on up my way and you'll be up to your @55 in them bad boys. As a matter of fact I caught another today. Hey, if nothing else they keep the traps firing on a slow day. The one I caught today was released. He was just way too small. He was probably in the .25 cent range. I'll wait until he plumps up a little.

All kidding aside. Have any of you guys eatin a Grinner? I'm told the southern Grinners are more apt to have parasites due to the warmer climate, but up here in their Norther range they areless likly to have worms ect. I'm just curious. They any good? Greasy? smelly? or culinary delight?
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2003, 02:20:57 PM »
I believe I would eat a dead cow that has laid in the sun for a week or two before I would eat a grinner. :)  I might skin one, but I don't think I would let myself put a piece of one in my mouth. I have heard of a man who said he had eaten a young one and it was good. You do what you want, but I believe I'll starve to death before I'll eat a possum. :)

Oh, I almost forgot. You got me figured out. I was wanting all the possums for myself. If you catch anymore just ship to me. Don't worry about keeping em frozen. I like em stinkin while I skin em. :-D
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« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2003, 01:07:10 AM »
KY,

I'll let warm up a bit before I ship em. You the man 8)

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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2003, 02:28:32 AM »
Well Joe what do grinners taste like?  Ive eaten  yote, bobcat, bvr , muskrat, monkey, snakes but havent tried ole possum.

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2003, 02:37:15 AM »
RdFx;
  The best receipe that I have heard is to skin the possum-removed all innards and head- baste the possum with a healthy portion of bar-b-que sauce and place on a shake shingle.  Cook this (don't let the shingle catch fire) over hickory smoke flame.  Smoke very slowly.  After the possum is cooked through and through, simply throw the possum away and eat the shingle.   Sounds right to me.  Danged things are to greasy :lol:
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2003, 06:26:34 AM »
you know, possums seem to be the only critter that will lay on the highway for LONG periods of time. No other animal (even crows) will pick at the carcass, either. Lots of other animal carcasses get cleaned up, but not possums.
I always figured if nothing else would eat them, that should definitely be a "sign".

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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2004, 03:35:37 PM »
:-D Believe it or not but if you know any black folks they'll probly buy the carcasses from you to eat :)  At least they do down here. You can probly get up to five bucks fer em. One thang tho' leave a back foot on em. Between the hides & the carcass a grinner can bring ya more then ye thought! :lol:

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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2004, 04:22:22 PM »
i get 50 cents and a buck 50 unskined but i have only caught 7 i catch more coon than possum.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2004, 08:05:44 PM »
Back in 1986-7-8 when I was trapping full time, and  Hunting with my hounds, I knew a Chinese dude who owned a resturant.  {Guess where this is going}  He was always coming over and visiting, would sit down at the table, share his hot tea, with all the green leaves in it.  Old Jimmy was cool, I learned a little Chinese!          "Nee how maa!"     Shea Shea wa hung how!"     we got to talking about the trail and trapline, and Tigers are the big thing among Chinese cooks, but they ate them all up, years ago.  At his request I took him a grinner, I listened till the Mexican cooks in the back opened the sack, they all burst out laughing, the whole kitchen! Jimmy came back and said  "No possum rabbit!" I said no they don't know what they are talking about, it is a possum. He went back and returned rabbit! So that didn't go very far.  Then I took a coon, the next time I went in to have dinner,  he came over and I asked him how he liked the coon.  
"Ohh!   very tough!"  Jimmy held his hands on the sides of his jaws and rocked his head back and forth, tough tough tough!!!
       So next time I took in a Bobcat!
                     He loved it! I took every Bobcat I caught that year to him and this was 16-17 years ago!  $7.00 each cash!  Old Ted {Bobcat } Connelly took to taking his Cats down there and was happy with the $7.00.
My dentist was telling me something and I told her that " I sell Bobcat carcasses to a a Chinese resturant on THIS STREET!"
 She got all excited and asked which one and I wouldn't tell her. AAAAHHH!
 "I'll never eat Chinese food again!"
 No , I told her that they don't sell it to the public! They save the Cat meat till grandmaw and grandpaw come over! It is a delacacy!  
 My dentist said "I'll never eat Chinese food again."

                       But think about it boys,  Chinese like Cat!
                      And Cat are Cat I recon, I am discussing Hog with another  chinese friend who started a resturant here recently, and should go over to Jimmys and see if he would be interested.  hmmm.  Lets look into this selling of these furbearer carcasses, so as to not waste them, the world is changing and todays Grinner, Hog, or Coyote, ???  could be tomorrows Sunday dinner for somebody. All these third world types moving into the usa,  gotta eat something.

                            Ever see a dog in Mexico? In Tiawan? What does this tell ya? Coyote are good meat!  Jimmy and I were talking about sending a 4,000Lb frozen shipping container onboard ship for Tiawan, and  when I called Austin to ask the legal points no one knew. Eventually I was switched to the boss game warden down in Austin, the Captain...          and  when I asked him what I needed to do to legally ship 4,000 Lbs of frozen Coyote carcasses to Tiawan, he asked me                               "Jack, do you really think they would eat Coyotes?"                                 I said  " I wouldn't think a starving Indian would eat a Coyote, but they want to try."  He just laughed and laughed and I said thats a new one isn't it." And he said yes.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2004, 02:33:58 AM »
:-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D
Really gets ya to thinking about all the times you've eaten chinese, japanese
or vietnamese food huh? Some years ago a chinese place nearby was fined & a write up in the local paper told how a surprise inspection had turned up dog carcasses in their freezer. Of course they claimed it was for personal use but still they were there. Oh well I guess if you don't think about it.............
What you don't know won't hurt ya right? I still enjoy oriental food..........
it ain't never hurt me :)  :)

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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2004, 06:10:32 PM »
I made a few friends in South Korea, They made me supper one night. It was a strong tasting soup with meat in it. You guessed it, Dog. I couldn't be rude to them. It wasn't that bad, but I wouldn't want all the time. They have dog farms that raise different breeds for the market place. I guess it depends on how big your family is.
You do have a good idea about the resturant , we use to sell fish that we speared to Jamicans and fillipino's in Cuba. Baracuda are about like grinners , greasy and smelly, they would eat them up, trigger fish the same way and they were tough and boney. They didn't bring much , but it beats nothing.
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« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2004, 03:55:09 AM »
Yeah, even if  I'm only catching grinners I can still make a couple a bux.
Like I was saying earlier though  nowadays you have to leave one foot on em. Awhile back some sorry folks took to snagging up everybody's house cats & skinning em & selling em for rabbits & coons :-D

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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2004, 08:24:51 PM »
Leave a back foot on him!  I just read that up above somewhere, and it reminds me... {oh oh here he goes again...}  I have a friend, an old friend I have known since the fourth grade, 1959!  Old Randy told me once about selling coon, possum, and such to an old lady who lived around where he worked.  He said yes ma'm, How do you want them cleaned?                  And she said ... oh jus leave's the liver and the head, and one hind foot on them so's when they all wrapped up and I looks in the freezer I can sees what I has...
You know I can lookin my freezer and sees what I got, lets see... I gots three coon, fo possum, a duck and 6 rabbits...
               Randy sold the old lady meat for years, I will ask him about her next time I see him.
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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2004, 07:56:45 AM »
as too removing them all .... good luck... a female can breed 3x a year with 7 to a litter and the first litter if all females can breed the first year so that COULD  mean in an area that there can be 70 offspring in 1 year, might splain why there are so many sailor possom on  the road ( sailor possom = is they r so flat u can sail em off like a frisbee ) as too eating them i asked an ole black guy who ate them and he said you removeas much fat as you can then roast them on a rack so the grease drips off and season like you would a pork roast

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« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2004, 02:45:17 AM »
Sure, you can make a few pennies on possums- BUT you would be better off stopping every mile on your line, walkig the ditch for cans, and selling them.

I don't do that.

I have, by count- skun out over 500 possums over the last decade- who knows how many before that.

I'm done. It ain't worth 50 cents to MAYBE $2-3 a possum- and thats a giant one. I seriously doubt if anyone sold posumms for anywhere close to a $3-5 average.

With normal trapline run possums in any numbers- that average is going to be closer to $1-1.50.

Wasting fur? Doesn't anyone believe in MANAGEMENT anymore? If I have gophers in my yard, mice in my shed, weevils in the cotton or possum in the woods- to me all are vermin and when they are overpopulated or causing damage (reread about possum reproduction- its true- I have OFTEN caught possums in NOVEMBER with the pouch full of tiny babies) I sleep very easily killing them and disposing them.

Possum are NOT indigenous here in MN- they are an imported predator that is having a major impact on birds and small mammals.

I get very irate when I here of trappers LETTING POSSUMS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2004, 12:06:13 PM »
What happened to that "nothing in nature is wasted"  theory? Oh yeah, it's not warm and fuzzy, just hard cold reality. After I use a possum for ballistic test media something eats what is left. In fact the other day I had a disscussion with another trapper who also noticed a lot of our bobcat catches are preceeded by a opossum cach. This statistic goes up drastically when the opossum is eaten before the set is remade. Plenty of the too many possums I caught  this year were skinned and sent to the buyer.