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Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« on: January 23, 2010, 01:32:06 PM »
Does anyone know of a company that makes these? The receiver is drilled and tapped for scope mounts so that is a start.

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2010, 09:19:57 AM »
Williams WGRS - 54 or FP-GR-TK or 5D-GR all fit the groove top strap of the 925. I know there are others that clap on scope groove as well. I don't know of any that screw into scope base holes.

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2010, 07:53:51 PM »
check the Brownells catalog or call their tech line..800-741-0015
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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2010, 02:18:49 AM »
Thank you for your replies.

I checked the Williams site and they want $72 for a peep set-up. Ouch!

Maybe I should just go with a cheapie scope. More clarity for about the same price.

Or maybe I could ask my gunsmith to jerry rig something? 

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2010, 01:26:44 AM »
 You might give this guy a ring; his work seems to be well thought of, and the barrel-mounted aperture sight concept actually works quite well (at least in my experience)

Skinner Sights: www.skinnersights.com

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 03:33:46 AM »
450Marlin,

I really like the look of Skinner sights: simple clean lines, not like those protruding Williams sights.

However, I see no mention on Skinner's website of sights for a Marlin 925.

Gunnut69,

do you have a link for the Brownells catalogue?

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 11:18:03 AM »
Williams WGRS-54 will fit
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=121512

Contact Skinner if rifle is drilled and taped he may be able to help you.

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 12:40:34 PM »
 Good advice to contact Skinner directly; I'm sure he can offer some advice :) Also, if you are interested, that barrel-mount aperture sight should slide right into the dovetail slot for your rear sight; it might work better with the factory front blade as it is mounted on the barrel, and thus lower and more in line than a receiver-mounted sight would be. I don't know if that sort of setup is something you'd like, but the forward-mount peep sight thing has worked very well for ;) FWIW, when I bought my Glenfield/Marlin 25, it came with a Williams receiver sight and the factory front blade; no matter what I tried, that gun shot very high with any and all loads tried - mounting a scope solved the problem.

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2010, 03:32:48 AM »
I checked out the Williams WGRS-54. The price is right at $27. I like the design, not too obtrusive.

However, I am wondering if I would have to replace the front sight? If so, the fribt sight is easy to take off, it has a screw.

Marlin450, did you try replacing the front sight on your #25? Also, did you buy it used?

Just curious... 

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2010, 03:35:13 PM »
I checked out the Williams WGRS-54. The price is right at $27. I like the design, not too obtrusive.

However, I am wondering if I would have to replace the front sight? If so, the fribt sight is easy to take off, it has a screw.

Marlin450, did you try replacing the front sight on your #25? Also, did you buy it used?

Just curious... 

 Probably, as chances are it will end up shooting quite high, but perhaps not :) I did not try replacing my front sight (just ended up mounting a nice little 2.5x scope I had laying around). I did buy the gun used btw, it came with the Williams already mounted - the previous owner had cut out a chunk of the stock to allow the sight to fit :o ::)

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2010, 07:25:26 AM »
If I did have to install a higher front sight, does anyone on this post know who makes one?

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 05:25:09 PM »
Check out http://www.tech-sights.com/
 They have sights for the marlin 60 & 795. The front sight looks like it would work on a 15y (single screw) so may fit others as well. My 880 front sight uses 2 screws.

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2010, 03:04:20 PM »
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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2010, 12:35:20 AM »
I think I will go with the Skinner barrel mounted. I emailed Doc Skinner and he replied within an hour or so. He was very responsive.

It looks like I can just pop the factory sight off with a screwdriver, carefully. I just hope the Skinner sight fits in without too much trouble.

The website said something about a set screw; I'm confused. I need to email Skinner but Its easier from my computer at work. I have to wait until Monday.

Meanwhile, does anyone here know anything about set screws for barrel mounted Skinner sights?


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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2010, 10:14:19 AM »
The dovetail base on the sight should be a firm fit into the barrel, as his instructions say. The set screw comes down from the top and helps lock it into place. This may really only be needed if the dovetail fit is a little loose, ie, it wants to slide side to side with only thumb pressure (or, hopefully not less!)
Just what do you mean by 'pop the factory sight off with a screwdriver'? Isnt it in a barrel dovetail?
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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2010, 01:04:06 AM »
gcrank1,

if you check the marlin website and enlarge the photo of the 925 I think you can get a fairly good idea. Im not good at computers or I would post  photo.

As I recall the set up is the same as my 336W. I believe I took the rear site off when I put on a scope but I don't recall now.

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 03:40:55 AM »
Turns out I had to pry the factory sight off with a screwdriver. It did not want to come out. It is now ruined; no loss the factory sights are garbage to begin with.

The skinner sight arrived in about three days! It fit in snug, but it is still a bit 1/8 or less off center. Instructions say to use a brass punch or hardwood dowel drive to center it.

I can't wait to try it out on Sunday. 

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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2010, 04:56:33 AM »
I dont want to sound hyper-critical, especialy since I wasnt there, but you shouldnt have to pry gun parts off with a screwdriver. Something about this doesnt sound right. For you its a done deal and you didnt like the sight anyway, but for someone else to get the idea that this is the way to work on guns bothers me (maybe its just me, so I'll stop now).
Glad you are almost there....you like the work from Skinner?
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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2010, 04:22:31 AM »
Gcrank1,

I love the skinner sight. It looks great and the quality seems high.

No offense taken. Maybe I did not do it right, but it did not want to come out. I don't recall having this problem when I took the sight off my 336 W, which has the same dovetail setup.

I hated to ruin the sight, and yes, I agree this is poor gunsmithing, to say the least. I thought about having a gunsmith install it. But that would have added like another $40 to the cost: $250 for the gun, $55 for the sight, $40 gunsmithing fees...I might as well mount a good scope.

I have found that over the years my mechanical skills have eroded. I think you need to stay in practice for this kind of thing. I used to repair my own cars years ago. Never had a problem.

Flash forward to the present: Not long ago I busted a wiper blade trying to replace the old one. I said to my self this never would have happened back in the day. I just had a feel for mechanical things that I lost. Or maybe its just I don't have the patience any more.

P.S. I installed the skinner sight without problems, using a hardwood dowel drive to gently center the sight in the dovetail slot. Now lets see how accurate it is.


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Re: Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2010, 05:32:42 AM »
I dont know if the factories are using hydrolic presses or locktight, but some of the sights are in as tight as Chevy headbolts. They can be tough and special tools help. I agree that the 'gunsmith' fees for some small stuff is more than I would charge, and the work no better. I used to do little things like that for free, or a small nominal fee, just to develope a relationship with a customer who would come back for more.
Worked for me, but that was a world far, far away.
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UPDATE : Range report for Peep sites for Marlin 925?
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2010, 02:11:59 PM »
I have a range report: I am very happy with the Skinner peep sight. It worked just the way he said it would. I took the center out and made it a ghost ring.

After I got used to the feel of it I was grouping at about an inch at about 30 yards, centered around the bottom of the orange bulls eye. It took maybe 15 rounds to get used to the setup, and to get it sighted in but it was worth it. I cranked the elevation up about one turn. I used Remington golden bullets, the bullets everyone love to hate.

I know some on this forum would get better results but for me its a start. Much better than the 3 inch groups, left of center, that I was getting with factory sights. I will try some other ammo and see what happens. I want to use it to hunt rabbits and quail, with subsonics.

The CCI subsonic stuff I tried with factory sights was grouping low - about 5 inches - so I will try it again with the peep and see what happens.

I think you are right, Gcrank1, Marlin put that sight in there to stay.

Thanks for the good service, Doc Skinner. Now if you only made a peep for my Security Six...