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Offline mangulator

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30-30 to 30-40 krag
« on: January 23, 2010, 04:50:06 PM »
How difficult would it be to convert a 30-30 barrel to 30-40 Krag? and it it is difficult who would you recommend as a qualified gun smith. I really like the 30-40 and have an old Krag but would like to retire it and replace it with a single shot.
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 08:55:22 AM »
It's a simple rechamber. There are a few of them floating around here somewhere. I'd like to do the same thing but my 30-30 shoots too well to change anything. ;D



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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 10:49:33 AM »
If your going to re-chamber to the Krag, do the Ackley improved Krag. Better performance with less c.u.p. pressures. I have two of them and have had for over 40 years its a great cartridge.
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 11:00:05 AM »
I'd take a look at the cost of 30-40Imp dies before you make that decision, die costs have nipped some of my rechambering ideas in the bud.  :-\

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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 11:21:19 AM »
Just did a search...  E. Arthur Brown has them for $60 which is a good deal.  http://www.eabco.com/cgi-bin/shopper.exe?preadd=action&key=127-3040AI   -  I think they're Redding.

Cost of dies has kept me from changing a Remington Model 7 to 243 Ackley.  My gunsmith has the reamer.  Dies from Midwayusa are $143.00 !!!  Ouch!   (Just found some Redding dies for $75.  Better...)

Is it worth the extra cost?  I'm still trying to decide that also.

The other issue is: Reloading data -  I'm not seeing much on the net.  

Mike

 
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2010, 11:28:54 AM »
The AIs are a waste of time.
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2010, 01:56:42 PM »
I can understand the attraction as I have a '98 Krag original Springfield rifle, but what are you hoping to gain? Extra powder capacity for....? If its heavier bullets just load them in 30-30 cases. A few hundred feet per second velocity wont be noticed by the game you bag. Remember, T.R. thought the 30-30 a fine small bore express in Africa.
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2010, 02:45:57 PM »
The 30-40 Krag is nastalgic to me but then if you talk to anybody about being nastalgic in Wisconsin the only answer you will get is it ain't more nastalgic than a 30-30 ;D Kurt
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2010, 03:58:41 PM »
Dang! Ya got me!
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2010, 04:08:25 PM »
Don't let the na sayers put you off the AI, yes dies do cost more but you will end up giving that gun to your kids and grand kids so a small price to pay.The 30/30 imp is a big improvment that is one cal that needs it and it works well on the 30/30 it will nip at the heels of the 30/40 or .303 and will even give the willy's to a .308 it's that good. I would not bother with a AI in a 06 case as I have found them not much better but say in a H&H or a 30/30 or .348 they are great.
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Re: 30-30 to 30-40 krag
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2010, 04:41:59 PM »
The longer the neck and steeper the angle of the case the better AI cases work.  Also, a lot of AI load data ups the pressures, especially bolt actions.  Loaded to the same pressures most AI cases don't give you much. The 30/30 and 22 Hornet may be the two best candidates for improving.  Gains can be signifcant. 
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