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Offline lgm270

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Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« on: January 30, 2010, 10:21:49 AM »
Griffin & Howe?

Hoffman Arms Co.?

Jaeger? 

Who was your favorite classic American custom gun maker? 

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Re: Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2010, 03:19:59 AM »
Hmmmm sorry but I don't know enough about them nor seen many of them. I did try to buy a Sedgley 06 sporting rifle once but they wanted way over the odds to my mind for it  ::).

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Re: Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2010, 06:54:38 AM »
Hmmmm sorry but I don't know enough about them nor seen many of them. I did try to buy a Sedgley 06 sporting rifle once but they wanted way over the odds to my mind for it  ::).

Greetings Brit.  Just google their names and many  examples of their work are still widley listed. 

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Re: Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2010, 06:59:33 AM »
Ahhh yes but before making such a decision I would want to see them in person and if possible handle them. Having the chance to do so with some of the British Custom rifles means I can say I don't like David Lloyds rifles and prefer Rigby's to Holland & Hollands although if forced to I could live with a Holland & Holland bolt action  ;) The old firms of Gibbs of Bristol made some beautiful rifles and I very nearly broguht one once long ago but was beaten to it. So much for reflection and thinking it through  ::) :-[.

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Re: Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2010, 07:16:49 AM »
HI Brit.  Thanks for responding.  Would you share with us your knowledge  and opinions of British custom rifle makers then?   Would love to read it.

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Re: Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2010, 01:54:37 PM »
Well I can only really comment of the ones I have had the chance to handle and even shoot. As I said the David Lloyd rifles are to my mind not worth it, vastly overpriced and rather ungainly. Of course owners of them probably feel differently  ::)

Now I do own a  couple both being rather unusal I suppose such as this Rigby Mannlicher Mdl 1892 seen here with suitable acroutments:-










Sights are stand for 100 yds with leaves for 200 & 300 yards and with that Kynoch ammunition still in regulation  :) Edit:- Oh of course this one dates from before WW1 in fact it's a turn of the century picece, 20th century that is  ;) and if I recall correctly cost 12 Gunnieas (£12:60p in todays money)

I actually took it back to Rigbys when they were still at The Elephant and Castle in London and had them give it a going over and service. It was a rather pleasent visit looking over the rifles ont he rack and the unfinished still in the white one and then all the trophies ................... sigh all gone now  :'(

Of course one can buy a Rigby type rifle still made the same way by Rigby craftsman in the form of a Ron Wharton built rifle. He trades as Ron Wharton of Rigbys and I have had some dealings with him and visited his workshop and in fact onyl lived about 7 miles from it before the move. A true gentleman and craftsman and very generous with his time I found sorry no photos of his work.

I will do another post about the other I have in my possession  ;) a modern bespoke British bench made rifle.

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Re: Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2010, 02:33:27 AM »
Brithunter,

I agree.  There are very few REAL rifle makers that still produce a true custom.  The English guns - both London and some Birmingham - are real working pieces of art.  Even their "plain" ones are among the very best sporting rifles ever produced.  Of course this includes their bolt action repeaters, but we must remember their doubles as well; a whole world of gunmaking that is becomming increasingly rare and expensive.  

There are some American bolt rifle makers that really get the sporting rifle concept...Wells, Worthing, D'Arcy Echols, just to name a few.

This isn't meant to take anything away from the many very talented gunsmiths who modify factory Remchesters - some of the work available in the US is extraordinary.  But, there is a real peace of mind that comes with a gun built with a good or new Mauser action that retains all of the Mauser attributes when it comes to controlled round feeding.  As I'm sure you know and understand, just having a "claw extractor" does not even come close to a real Mauser action. - CZ is the only factory bolt that I know of that does.  And, yes, I do have a custom gun built around one of their long actions (the bore is .450" by the way).  Also have a 9.3x64mm Brenneke built around a Mauser.  Picked it up while stationed in Germany from a small time master gunsmith.  It is British Classic in style.  The gunsmith who put it all together was the Master Gunsmith for Heym for 14 years so you can imagine the quality level of the work.  It was a pure joy to visit his at-home shop, have a beer (pint), talk and watch his skilled hands at work. 

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Re: Your Favorite Classic Custom Rifle Maker?
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2010, 05:41:54 AM »
Good topic!  I honor the great names like G&H and indeed they made superb guns. 

One lesser known smith who has passed on was Floyd Butler.  His work was good and the rifles were accurate.  Perhaps his detail was not the very tops but his art was.  Floyd was a good person as well.

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