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Offline Rustyinfla

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Shotgun report?
« on: January 30, 2010, 12:13:09 PM »


  I've been thinking for the last few days about picking up a .410 to use as a garden gun. I have had an invasion of feral cats here lately and I'm thinking the the report of the .410 would be less than the 12 ga going off. The idea is to try not to disturb the wife who works nights and sleeps days.

  My other thought is  to try some of the shortie bird shot shells by Agulia. I know the buck shot loads and the slugs are milder but I'm not sure how they'd rate beside the .410. 
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2010, 03:08:36 PM »
Rusty

I would stick with 22 shorts or a 20 gauge for cats. I don't know if 410 bird shot would kill em clean. Buckshot or a slug probably would though.
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2010, 03:18:12 PM »
 I remember a story some time back. . . We had a customer coming in all the time buying 100 rounds of Remington CBee longs. All the time, only CBee longs... One day I commented on this, he responds best dam "Cat Bullets" he had ever used... Guess he had allot of cats bothering him...

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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 03:19:54 PM »
 Yep that's what I was thinking as well. I just keep running it through my mind.

  If I use a .22 it limits my field of fire because of not having a safe backstop.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 03:28:41 PM »
CB  is  very quiet  but they may run  off  if thats a concern

38  heavy slug in a rifle is quiet too

#4 shot  in  410  and get close  real deadly
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 05:46:50 PM »
Not a lot of difference between a 12ga and .410.  ;)

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 05:54:25 PM »
that  chart  also  showed little difference between  38  and 357
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2010, 12:32:09 AM »


  Thanks Tim, darned it you don't have the answer for everything.
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2010, 05:09:52 AM »
Rusty,

Would you like to try the hornet shotgun insert Larry made? It seemed pretty quiet compared to a regular hornet barrel, I didn't shoot it without hearing protection, but it seemed somewhat suppressed. That would put it to good use.  ;)

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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2010, 06:02:37 AM »
IIRC on the decibel scale an increase of ONE number is DOUBLE the sound level.

That would make the 12 ga about twice as loud as a .410 and the .357 mag several times as loud as a .38 special.

I'd say that's about right - I might touch off a round of .38 special without muffs on, but wouldn't even consider doing it with a .357 mag unless my life depended on it!
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2010, 06:23:23 AM »
Out of my 4 inch 357, 6 shots without ear plugs equals ringing ears for about two hours.

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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2010, 06:34:31 AM »
The link I posted shows the effects of shorter barrels.  :-\

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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2010, 02:27:33 PM »


 Actually I have some of the Aguila mini shells. I think they would be a little quieter out of my deluxe. I'll just switch over to them. If I use standard Remington shorts out of my Marlin 39A all you hear is the hammer falling. For a single projectile I could use those, I just worry about the lack of a safe backstop.
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2010, 01:43:41 PM »
There is a way to do it with no report, get some 120 conibear traps and a box of the appropriate size, the plastic tubes that the newspaper gives you to put on your mailbox post works great.  Put some sardines, fish scraps, canned cat food what ever in the back of the box cut slits in the front of the box to hold the trap springs and in the morning no more feral cat, no gun shot. If you build the box leave the back open and cover with 1/4" or 1/2" wire mesh and it works even better. Obviously this only works where you don't have any pet or farm cats around that you don't want to dispose of.  It is quite, efficent and humane.  It is unreal how much damage a feral cat can do to wildlife and song birds in just a short time.  In Australia the government hires people to hunt them due to the damage they do, there was a TV show on about it a while back, it was amazing how many of them there were there, according to the show some birds are in danger of extinction due to predation by feral cats there.  But this eliminates getting a new gun so I guess you should get which ever one you decide on to carry when checking the traps in case the cat had buddies and you get charged by angry cats seeking revenge
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Re: Shotgun report?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2010, 06:28:05 PM »
Never tried one, but the commercials for Gamo air rifles shows them
shooting squirrels and bunnies.  Bet it would pop a stray/feral cat too!
Very little noise.  

I like using my recurve for vermin from mouse on up!   ???
Great practice and doesn't disturb anyone.

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