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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2010, 03:01:49 PM »
 DOG GONE you guys, no, really this is a blast ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D........
 So, is anybody going to try it?
 What do you all think about a Ballonabwehrkanone that shoots golfballs?
 Got any ideas or drawings to make a simple breechloading ballon popper?
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2010, 03:20:31 PM »
Got any ideas or drawings to make a simple breechloading ballon popper?

What caliber?
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2010, 03:34:12 PM »
Got any ideas or drawings to make a simple breechloading ballon popper?

What caliber?
I thought i wrote that above, golfball caliber.
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2010, 03:39:38 PM »
For golf balls or steel balls?  Rifled or smoothbore?
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2010, 03:52:52 PM »
For golf balls or steel balls?  Rifled or smoothbore?
O.K. let's try this again.....is anybody going to try and build a Ballonabwehrkanone?
 GGaskill, and others, ideas are welcome here. Have your say.
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2010, 04:06:47 PM »
I'd be more inclined to make lightweight bronze swivel gun for use on the balloon . To shoot you's guys trying to shoot us guys whilst floating around ........



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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2010, 04:07:10 PM »
This would be like a super-serious spud gun.  Has to be a 'replica' of something pre 1898 to be legal.

I think this HAS to be part of the NRV almost annual Shoot this summer !

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2010, 04:32:48 PM »
I would go with something like a Hotchkiss on an appropriate mount.
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2010, 05:33:24 PM »
Would it be cheating to use the golf ball firing attachment on my ar15? I have to muzzle load the golf ball.
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2010, 05:51:34 PM »
No, you can't use the GB launcher on the AR.

It's all black and evil, with that shoulder thing that goes UP!


And mostly 'cause I ain't got a launcher attachment.

(can't screw off the flash hider, it's pinned/welded on 14.5" barrel)

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2010, 03:21:00 AM »
Would it be cheating to use the golf ball firing attachment on my ar15? I have to muzzle load the golf ball.

If you read carefully the laws (do so, not to take my non-lawyer advice) you may discover that there is a category wherein it's legal, but if used as a weapon it becomes a DD - hence illegal.  Now to do a pre-1898 AR-15 will take some serious research!   :D
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2010, 03:23:35 AM »
I definitely see a swivel gun vs. baloon competition upcoming!

I've got a Napoleon with 1-7/8 bore that will hold half a dozen at a time - AND provide a good spread too!

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2010, 08:23:59 AM »
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And mostly 'cause I ain't got a launcher attachment.

(can't screw off the flash hider, it's pinned/welded on 14.5" barrel)

Then make one that clamps onto the flash hider.
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2010, 09:20:53 AM »
I definitely see a swivel gun vs. baloon competition upcoming!

I've got a Napoleon with 1-7/8 bore that will hold half a dozen at a time - AND provide a good spread too!


That's too easy, how about one golfball at a time?
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2010, 09:47:22 AM »
I definitely see a swivel gun vs. baloon competition upcoming!

I've got a Napoleon with 1-7/8 bore that will hold half a dozen at a time - AND provide a good spread too!


That's too easy, how about one golfball at a time?



I may quote you on it being TO EASY.

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2010, 10:00:45 AM »
I don't think I'd want to shoot off more than 1 at a time. The possibility of something getting stuck seems too great to me. If a couple of balls at the front bind up you'll have a bomb instead of a cannon.   :'(
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2010, 11:40:56 AM »
Multiple full bore projos loaded end-to-end is obviously a BAD idea!

But what about grape or cannister (properly assembled)?

These would seem the first choice for airborne targets.

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2010, 11:50:13 AM »
 I'm still waiting for someone to post some close-up pics of the Ballonabwehrkanone, and the ammo it used. ;)
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2010, 07:52:18 AM »
The only pics I found are the one's now posted here, I read there is one of these guns in a German museum somewhere.

Here's another.
[img width= height=]http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e888330115713273a9970b-500wi[/img]
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2010, 08:36:18 AM »
I am not sure about the ammo it used but I had a U.S.

balloon buster shell years ago, it used a liqued incendary

on the edge of the base was what looked like a rivet with

a hole in the center it was pluged - on firing a stream of flamable

liqued followed behind crude but effective.
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2010, 02:12:45 PM »
 Well we can't use the rules laid down for Ballon-Abwehrkanonen (Bak), antiballon guns, since they were written after 1898.
 So, i'm thinking one golfball at a time, to match the 1870 Krupp 3.7cm.
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2010, 03:06:01 PM »
Well we can't use the rules laid down for Ballon-Abwehrkanonen (Bak), antiballon guns, since they were written after 1898.
 So, i'm thinking one golfball at a time, to match the 1870 Krupp 3.7cm.

I hope we won't be restricted to original pre-1898 golf balls!  I have only replicas.

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2010, 03:21:32 PM »
here is my ...vauge idea of a dreamship .  ;D



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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2010, 04:16:24 PM »
     Gary,    That is a most perfect illustration of the primary target of these guns and your use of the word "vauge" proves you have been reading your Beowulf lately or some other OE (old english) epic poem.  Most of us thought, as I first did, that you merely misspelled the word vague.  Ah, but looking at your creative illustration, I believe it just about perfectly illustrates the old english meaning of vauge, that of being an overlayment as in the detailed gas bag encapsulation netting.  High class artwork and very nice wordsmithing too!  Now you understand why we keep you around here.

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2010, 04:47:26 PM »
Thanks , Gary ,the closest I read to it is 'Eaters of the dead' by Michael Critean(sp) .

Tracy you tend to the single event of a borish individual . 'Overlayment' as expressed in the artwork is not a single layer event .

I tried to capture all encapslutaling indeed Overlaying nature of the dark . Represted desire and a calling to sail above men of ordinary stature .

A dry and musty saluent to the toiled labor of mankind in general terms . Best ,with say a triscut and a nice Sharp Cheddar if not an outright Brie . 8)

I'm still open to interpetation ,but right now yours is the best . :D ....maybe Cave Aged Gurriere , this is all very subjective .....  ;D
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #55 on: February 09, 2010, 02:16:43 PM »
Well we can't use the rules laid down for Ballon-Abwehrkanonen (Bak), antiballon guns, since they were written after 1898.
 So, i'm thinking one golfball at a time, to match the 1870 Krupp 3.7cm.

I hope we won't be restricted to original pre-1898 golf balls!  I have only replicas.


I think it will be o.k. to use the flea market golf balls :)
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #56 on: February 09, 2010, 02:20:57 PM »
here is my ...vauge idea of a dreamship .  ;D



Gary
That would be a shame to pop a dreamship such as that,so we'll stick to a good ole hefty sack ;D
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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #57 on: February 09, 2010, 02:50:30 PM »
Are we going to go with helium or hot air?

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Re: Would you like your balloon popped?
« Reply #58 on: February 09, 2010, 02:54:09 PM »
Are we going to go with helium or hot air?


Your choice- you build the Balloon, i'd like to build the Ballonabwehrkanone.
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« Reply #59 on: February 09, 2010, 02:57:38 PM »
Are we going to go with helium or hot air?
Your choice- you build the Balloon, i'd like to build the Ballonabwehrkanone.

OK.  Will have to build several - there's likely to be some competition.
Won't make any promises yet on size - but we can adjust the range.
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