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Glenn Beck!!.
« on: February 04, 2010, 11:06:08 AM »
Anyone here watch Glenn Beck at 5PM each weekday? If not please start.He will let you know just what is going on in the whitehouse, and the political back door bull#$#$%%$ thats been goin on for a long time >:(.pan. :)

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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2010, 11:21:52 AM »
You know I do listen and watch Beck from time to time and, yes he is on the front lines against all government BS. not just The Dems either!

I am having a little problem with his transitions from fact to commercial though. He'll be talking about government spending and the deficit and the recession and will go into a "Gold" commercial. Its the same thing with some other sponsors. I keep wondering if he is selling all the time or what! I'm not putting him down for making a living, I just wonder if he might get sponsors that don't benefit from his rants.

To me its hurting his credibility!

Its not that I dont watch and listen I just cant consistantly due to those reasons. Sometimes I have to just tune out. Maybe its just me.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2010, 06:29:21 AM »
Ole Glenn is a little too dramatic for my taste, I have a teenaged daughter so I have enough drama to contend with at home.

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Re: Glenn Beck!!.
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2010, 07:35:21 AM »
He does what his masters want him to.

He is not to be trusted


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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 07:49:26 AM »
Don't watch much TV anymore , mostly read..
when I did I use to like to watch Hannity and Colmes
Both have a lot more going on upstairs then Beck.
I always thought Beck was a few shy of a 6 pack.  
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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 09:37:26 AM »
Glen like Rush like Reba or any other person on TV or Radio is there to make a profit for themselves and those who put them there . They often state the truth but always with a spin to make their side look good . But then who would listen to just plain truthful facts being stated ?
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« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 06:19:48 AM »
The media is full of personalities on both sides of issues that get paid according to their talent.  If there is some of this talent representing how you might feel, your probably better off having that not having that, simply because people tend to use media to form an opinion.

Glen Beck is talented yes, he is an entertainer as well, but there are some things he does well.  He can get up in front of a crowd of people and draw things out on a chart, or map, and seems to know history, and he also seems to have been able to investigate things using reliable sources.  After reading one of his books, and watching him from time to time on his show, I have decided it is good to have him there. Would like to see school teachers take so much time to explain things to people.  He sure is not beholden to any party, can't fault him there.  If he can still use capitialism to make money with his talent...good....others can too.  Should he put in hours and hours of work to prepare for radio shows and tv appearances for free?  What's that, 80 hrs of work per week I would imagine?  So if he did it all for free it would make some people happy, I would not do it for free either, that's a ton of work, and he has been hired to make a decent show.  Since he is a free man like the rest of us to use talent to make money I have no problem with getting paid well for that much work.  He does give a lot to charity, more than those who oppose his views, so you can't say he's stingy either really.

Maybe there are lot's of people out there who have the talent to represent issues for some of us, but how do you pull them away from making enough money to live on and ask them to put in 60-80 hrs per week for free?  Do they have to do it for free to be worthy?  I say no...my time is worth something too.

I want profits for my talent too, I would not work as hard as Glen Beck for free to please anyone....he puts in way more hours than I would for the people who hired him.  As far as trusting him?  Trust him with what? He is in charge of nothing and can't affect any of us, all I do is listen to what he has to say and sometimes I find history very interesting to. If I don't trust what he is saying I can look it up, or stop listening any time.  I'm not sure I have to trust him with anything and can still like his afternoon tv shows sometimes.  

Someone mentioned Hannity...now there is someone who I agree with most times sure, but simply can't stand, he just plain get's on my nerves, at least his radio show does, I often turn the dial and mutter under my breath "enough already, shut up".....so there ya have it.  Someone who represents some of my views but I'm sick of the constant ranting on the same things every day.  He puts in gobs of hours as well for radio and TV shows.

I like Glen Beck, I'm glad he has a voice and the talent to get his views to people, and I like the way he draws it all out for people to see.  
I don't have to trust him with anything much, but I'm sure glad he is out there during these times.  
 


 

  

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Re: Glenn Beck!!.
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2010, 06:31:36 AM »
Glen like Rush like Reba or any other person on TV or Radio is there to make a profit for themselves and those who put them there . They often state the truth but always with a spin to make their side look good . But then who would listen to just plain truthful facts being stated ?


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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2010, 09:32:59 AM »
'The" wife can't stand him, I can in small installments. He would be good as a stand up comic.
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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2010, 04:47:55 PM »
jimster, good post.
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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 04:43:34 PM »
I like the fact that he tells you where he got his facts from. Looks at what our founding fathers had intentioned, and just how far out of wack things have become in the last 100 years. Plus he doesn't usually stay on the same topic for the entire 3 hours. One reason I don't listen to Rush that often. If you listen to the first hour, the next 2 are just repeats, plus his self inflicted back slapping wears on me. Reminds me of Cassius Clay. If he would've kept his mouth shut, instead of telling us how great he thought he was, I would give him more credit. I usually turn on the oldies station when Rush comes on. gypsyman
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 02:15:35 AM »
Like his content. Facts seem to be ...spot on.  He does educate on matters of the day.  I`ll leave it at that. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 10:28:18 AM »
I guess he will keep his job as long as he fulfills his quota of mentioning the Nazi's, and Hitler.
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 05:21:01 PM »
Not much of a fan.  I did have a good laugh on his account the other day though thanks to John Stewart and the Daily show...

Glenn Beck's interview with Representative Eric Massa wasn't a total waste of time -- he got a new sign-off phrase
 
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 07:59:41 PM »
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Not much of a fan.  I did have a good laugh on his account the other day though thanks to John Stewart and the Daily show...

Figgers!  Hard to be a fan of both.
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« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2010, 05:29:40 AM »
He lost all credibility with me when he stated that he is for a VAT.

Check out this video-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRZgIL-hUk
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« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2010, 05:56:42 AM »
He lost all credibility with me when he stated that he is for a VAT.

Check out this video-

http://www.roguegovernment.com/Phony_Populist_Glenn_Beck_Promotes_The_Idea_Of_A_Value_Added_Tax/18439/0/10/10/Y/M.html

WADN'T NUTTIN THERE !  ???
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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2010, 01:52:29 PM »
Here is Glenn Beck on VAT, just like Pelosi wants!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRZgIL-hUk
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« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2010, 04:26:02 AM »
He does what his masters want him to.

He is not to be trusted


Who are his masters?  He seems to only have 1 MASTER; Jesus

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« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2010, 06:04:30 AM »



[/quote]Who are his masters?  He seems to only have 1 MASTER; Jesus
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« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2010, 04:20:37 AM »
I like Glenn he will make a person think and pay attention. I tivo him everyday or listen to him on XM Radio.
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« Reply #21 on: April 20, 2010, 09:29:51 AM »
Glen Beck is about as real to conservative politics as pro wrestling is to a real sport.
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« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2010, 04:15:51 AM »
I have seen him several times in person in addition to the tv and radio shows.  He does bring up good points, but does it in a way that includes too much drama for me.  Many like the style, or he would not have adopted it.  He is very good at holding an audience when giving a speech in person.

As far as making money, I don't begrudge him that, infact I applaud him for finding his niche.  I just have to wonder if chasing the dollar tends to lead his arguments in directions they may not have gone otherwise... :-\

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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2010, 04:40:59 AM »
Many conservatives, including me, support a consumption tax in place of an income tax.  Whether people know it or not, any taxes charged to the production of goods are reflected in the price of those goods, and paid by the end user anyway.  A VAT as proposed is not an additional tax; rather, a replacement for a punishing, ridiculously one sided tax where half of Americans pay no federal taxes at all.  In fact, many get, in essence, welfare through the "earned income tax credit".  What a farce.

I am so very sick of hearing that the rich people don't pay "their fair share".  What the heck is that?  We already have almost all federal tax paid by a very small percentage of the population.  Should they pay ALL taxes because they are evil, horrible people?  Evil like the Ace hardware store owner in my town that supports pretty much every charity and little league team that asks?  Or evil like the auto paint shop down the street that makes it a point to train green horns from the ground up to be excellent craftsmen, where the big boxes won't give them a second look?  Or another really evil person who has a roofing business and serves as a deacon in our church, tithes, and cuts needy people all kinds of deals all the time?

No, we have a country full of people who want something for nothing.  They whine because the credit card companies want their money back.  They whine because they (gasp!!!) had to pay for a prescription.

I am disgusted by people who drive nicer cars that my wife and me, but want me to pay for their kids' school lunch.  They should feed their own kids....geeeze.  If they aren't doing it, then we the tax payers should get to garnish their wages, or if they don't have a job, guess what, we'll give them one in street cleaning, park mainenance, etc. until they get a job.
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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2010, 06:49:20 AM »
Was it the CBO last week that came out with the statistics that showed only 50 % of the population actually pay income taxes? Seems the whole "George Bush gave tax cuts to the rich" is true, since obama thinks that anyone making over 90 G's is rich! And guess who pays the most taxes?  ::)
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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2010, 08:23:11 AM »
I listen to Beck alot. The theatrics were annoying at first but I got used to it. It's worth it to hear some truth for a change. I don't aggree with the VA tax but at least Glenn's plan is that the money goes straight to the  debt and works in conjunction with other ideas to get the country in the black again. Obama's VAT plan just gets spent on more stupid entitlements, which in turn gives us more debt. I have learned more from Beck than anyone else in the media and he backs everything up with fact. I really like the way he gets right in the Whitehouse's face and they can't disprove a word he says. I been watching him since he was on HLN.
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« Reply #26 on: April 21, 2010, 08:26:06 AM »
Glen like Rush like Reba or any other person on TV or Radio is there to make a profit for themselves and those who put them there . They often state the truth but always with a spin to make their side look good . But then who would listen to just plain truthful facts being stated ?
At least they state the facts.  The evening news on the TV, CNN, The major news papers just give opinion and NO facts.  just brain washing commie indoctrination crud where everyone is equal and no one should loose.  Could you imagine their eutopian news:
The stock market was Flat again to day.  As no new products are being made the patten office has layed off all but one of it's staff. Unemployemnt continues to increase as no new jobs are created.  The housing market is flat agin today and the amount of Homeless is increasing as Congress has protected every tree as a potential owl habitat, and no new houses can be built or  older houses repaired.  Your local sports team played thier rival to a tie, both teams had thier self esteam built for not loosing,
All College and High school contact sports have been canceled.  The masters in Golf was Played today and we averaged everyones score and they were all given Par and the green jacket congradulations all 300 new master.  Government has realized that they are the problem and have written legislation to out law them selves.
Sorry but there have to be winners and loosers, there has to be inovation.  there have to be new companies and capitalism does that.  The Incramentalism that left has been doing along with the brain washing from the News Media has been criminal and if it takes guys like Glen Beck and his over the top style (I do not listen or watch him) to help drag America back to a free society that works and someone wants to pay him to for it.  Great!

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« Reply #27 on: April 21, 2010, 09:04:16 AM »
Here is Glenn Beck on VAT, just like Pelosi wants!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYRZgIL-hUk

There is a large difference between what Pelosi wants and what Beck is proposing; don't mischaracterize his statements by simply reading the headline and not watching the whole clip. His VAT is 2% for 10 years, directly into the deficit, with requirements of no new spending and a balanced annual budget, all books combined into a single accounting system, and all of it as a constitutional amendment to ensure the expiration date. Pelosi's VAT is higher, with no expiration, and no accountability ... just drop it in the pot in the current accounting system. Just because they both say VAT does not mean they are talking about the same thing.

So let's say you still disagree with the VAT on principle (which I do), what is your solution to the economic crisis of the US?

Oh, and by the way, don't miss the part in the clip where he's telling O'Reilly that America is at a fork in the road - Reset or Restore, and Beck thinks we're heading towards a Reset ... a VAT would fall under Restore. It is refreshing to hear someone who can debate the merits of multiple options intelligently.
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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2010, 09:37:05 AM »
One thing is for sure. You do not want any part of the EU type VAT which runs into double digits there. I would presume this is what Pelosi and her gang would want.
VAT isn't just from the Manufacturer to the Consumer but every step in between gets hits and of course it depends on what is taxable.
Do you pay sales tax on your haircut, or postage stamp? I do although it isn't called VAT here but Harmonized Sales Tax. which for me is 13%.
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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2010, 10:46:42 AM »


So let's say you still disagree with the VAT on principle (which I do), what is your solution to the economic crisis of the US?

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Adding new taxes is not the answer.
What I would do is
A) make a prioprity list of Federal Government expenditures.  With paying Congress LAST!
I need a Soldier more than I need a Congressional Aid.  Also tie any tax increases  or new taxes inversly to the Budget for Congress.  if they mismanage the $ and tell us we need to do with less then so should they.
B) Eliminate all Taxes, rules, programs and regulations!  And start off with a New 10% flat tax with a 30 -40 thousand deductible.
C) Look at the gold reserves and sell off enough to get the debt magagible.
D) Look at the Social Security System and Make good on the promises that were made but wheen people off the program and into a private saving system that invests in America.  You can invest any where but you will pay taxes on any $ that is invested in other than US owned companies.
E) get the government out of Health care.  there is a conflect of Interest when they are the providers and the safety net.
F) Uphold the immagration laws we have now.If the lower taxes booms the economy past the employment rate then we can talk about a guest worker program.  they are taxed at a flat 15% and not elligible for any Social Programs.  If they need welfare they can go back to what ever country they came from with a ticket.  Also any illegal or guest worker that has children here they are NOT citizens.  Also all birth certificates are held at the hospital till the bill is paid in full.
G) If a state desides it wants to over look Federal law then that state is cut off from all funding.  Not arrest illegals, drug laws, what have you no federal $.  That should cut back on some items quickly.
H) forgien aid - Loan $ to our allies that need it to develope Capitalistic based economies.  All other firgien aid would stop.
I) move the UN - We support it, cost us Billions each year, and they do nothing for us!  Everything they propose goes against major sections of our constitution.  Let France have it.
J) end all Green laws - Allow oil exploration and pumping on US territory.  Build three or four more refineries to keep up with demand.  Use all Taxes from the fuel companies (their standard income tax) to fund better roads.  No sin taxes for Fuel usage or habits (guns, ammo, tabaco, or booze)  Close the EPA-  They have gotten too big and regulate them selves and govern them selves- no ballence of powers. 
K) offer bonuses rather than grants for research.  Grants for research is how we have ended up with the whole Man Made Global Warming Myth that is costing millions and started out as a scheeme to get grant $.
J) Any Congress men that sponsers a bill that is later found to be UN Constitutional will be arrested for civil liberty violations.  If a police officer is subject to it so should the law makers and allow any one harmed in the law to sue them personally to recover damages.