Author Topic: Instant Check System-NOT! (Read 1600 times)

Big Blue · « **on:** February 05, 2010, 06:01:53 AM »

I got a call from my local gun shop to say my BC .45 Colt is in and ready to be picked up. I went down and filled out all the paper work, paid for everything and while the dealer was initiating the background check I got to look the gun over. The good news is that it has some of the very finest looking walnut grain I've ever seen on a gun. The steel factory sights are so much better than I expected, especially after getting those plastic garbage sights on my .500 S&W Handi. Overall fit and finish is fantastic! Then I got smacked with the bad news. PICS (Pennsylvania Instant Check System) is down so yes they do have the gun, but no I still can't take it home. So much for an instant check.
Don

quickdtoo · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:08:09 AM »

Computer systems are great when they're working, not so hot when they're down because there usually isn't an option to work with. $:-\$

Tim

petemi · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:09:14 AM »

One of my candy stores is a hundred miles away. It is really wonderful when that happens

Pete

aromakr · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:13:38 AM »

Don:
I don't know about PA, but in MT. if you have a CCW they don't have to make the call at all. They just photo copy your permit and attach it to the paperwork. Easy and simple.
Bob

scootrd · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:26:29 AM »

Quote from: aromakr on February 05, 2010, 06:13:38 AM

Don:
I don't know about PA, but in MT. if you have a CCW they don't have to make the call at all. They just photo copy your permit and attach it to the paperwork. Easy and simple.
Bob

When my wife and I were paying for some items at a local store , the computer went down .. The young girl at the counter didn't even know how to make exact change for the customers because the little digital computer register couldn't tell her. Kinda sad really.

1NEFsofar · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:29:53 AM »

I never have any luck with the instant check system. The automated system always transfers to a live person who asks a lot of questions (maybe it has to due with my past job). I've learned to allow plenty of time for the process and I even warn the retailer to expect it....usually they give me funny looks.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:36:18 AM »

Could be worse.
Here in CA we have an 11 Day wait from the day you do the paper work. And if by chance you go over 30 days you have to re do the paper work and wait another 11 days. Not to mention all the seconday ID you need to bring.

Kal52 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:21:46 AM »

Ive only had to wait if I buy at a franchise store, like Gander or Sportsmans. I have my CCW, and like was mentioned, do the paperwork, he makes a few copies and im out the door in about 10 mins. Its very nice.

Hope you can get it soon.

Dave

Daman · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:35:29 AM »

I LOVE ALABAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The last two guns I bought (a 357 pistol and 7mm-08 H&R) took about 5 minutes each on paperwork.

Daman

yukondog · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:40:18 AM »

When I lived in TN. had my CCW same way there copy and go.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:42:28 AM »

A guy in OK used my SS number in a crime , I always wait .

Big Blue · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2010, 07:50:47 AM »

Well the system stayed down for a few hours this morning, but is back up now. I got a call from the dealer to come and get it.
Don

canon6 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2010, 08:19:01 AM »

Like shootall,I have to wait.I would say I have gotten used to it, but it (VERY LOUD OBSCENE RANT)
doesn not get any easier. Doug

wreckhog · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2010, 09:26:48 AM »

When I go into one particular store I fill out my 4473 as I enter. That way, if I leave with a new toy or 5, the paperwork is already done.

knight0334 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2010, 10:52:27 AM »

Quote from: aromakr on February 05, 2010, 06:13:38 AM

Don:
I don't know about PA, but in MT. if you have a CCW they don't have to make the call at all. They just photo copy your permit and attach it to the paperwork. Easy and simple.
Bob

Here in PA, everyone including officers have to have a PICS check upon purchasing a firearm from a FFL. Our LTCF doesn't qualify for any exemption.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2010, 12:22:58 PM »

I wish when this happens that I could just refer the clerk to the 2nd Amdmt of the US Constitution and have this all prempted (as it should be).
NOTE: need we ANY other reason (but we have MANY) to vote all the bums out this next mid-term?
I'll go take my pill now.........

jather · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2010, 05:24:13 PM »

fellas, try illinois. ccw not even an option. gotta have a firearm owners id card plus the wait. last couple of years had to show card to buy pyrodex, then muzzleloader BULLETS. best was when i bought a scope. yup, asked for my card. when i remarked how silly for a scope, cashier replied it's not that. it's for the scope RINGS! what a state. jather..

McLernon · « **Reply #17 on:** February 05, 2010, 05:35:52 PM »

I live in Canada and for all my long gun purchases it has only taken 5 minutes..................................handguns are another matter.

Mc

45-70.gov · « **Reply #18 on:** February 05, 2010, 05:49:22 PM »

used to in florida CCW= no background check

then they changed it
the ONLY citation i ever got from the ATF in 26 years

for failing to do a background check on a regular customer
after he ''renewd'' his CCW
previous sales to him were ok
just not my last sale to him

i recently had a customer had to wait 3 weeks
no explanation

briannmilewis · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2010, 05:58:24 PM »

A year or two ago, Missouri scrapped all their state gun laws and they just operate on the Federal Default rules. I am a permanent resident alien, if I buy in Missouri, the only ID is my driver's license and they make me wait 48-72 hours. If I buy next door in Kansas, they make me wait, and they require 3 consecutive documents, dated 1 month apart, with your name and address on it, something like three most recent phone bills, 3 most rcent electric bills etc.

My living rent free in the basement of my ex-wife's place, I have no utility bills. Olathe Gun Shop is holding a rifle until I get the three documents in order, but I decided I will get my money back and buy in a Missouri store or from a private party.

jather · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:08:57 PM »

brian, try illinois. unless they changed it, you can buy here as if in mo. few years ago, was in a shop with brother that lived in mo. we're in illinois shop. dealer would have to see my foid card and wait 24hrs to pickup long gun. but to my brother-mo resident- just show his drivers' license for proof of residency, lay down the money and walk out with long gun NOW!! what a rip... jather...

wreckhog · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:02:21 AM »

Quote from: 45-70.gov on February 05, 2010, 05:49:22 PM

used to in florida CCW= no background check

then they changed it
the ONLY citation i ever got from the ATF in 26 years

for failing to do a background check on a regular customer
after he ''renewd'' his CCW
previous sales to him were ok
just not my last sale to him

i recently had a customer had to wait 3 weeks
no explanation

Did the rules change. Thought a "delayed" was for 3 days. If it did not turn into a "denied" in those 3 days, it automatically became "approved".

Lon371 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:16:19 AM »

Indiana; walk in pick out a gun, fill out form get out your drivers license. Wait 5 minutes and run to the range

Lonny

bobg · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:34:46 AM »

The guy that i deal with in the lousy state of NY use to look at my CCW and out the door i went with the gun. The last gun i bought he said he couldn't do that anymore. Had to make a phone call. Said it could take up to two hours. He had an answer in about five minutes.
bobg

a4beltfed2000 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 06, 2010, 02:36:37 AM »

Hell, I purchased a NEF shotgun from walmart because they were 20.00 dollars cheaper than what I could order them for. I was "delayed" on my NCIS check and I have FFL!!!! figure that one out!!!!

gcrank1 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 06, 2010, 03:07:15 AM »

To paraphrase a line from 'The Last of the Mohicans':
"I believe they (the British then, who now?) suspend their rule of law when, and as, they wish"

blaze · « **Reply #26 on:** February 06, 2010, 09:00:29 AM »

I walk into my local gun shop pick out a rifle, shotgun or handgun , fill out federal paperwork, NCIS check, pay for it and walk out the door. The handgun can be carried in the open loaded or cancealed loaded no problem don't need a CCW (not required/available) not problems - our state constitution guarantees it !!!. Go a mile west into NY or a few miles south into Mass. and it is a whole different world.

bagdadjoe · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2010, 09:47:24 AM »

Let's all thank Kennedys, Brady, Schumer, Feinstein and their holy brethern (and cistern

) for making the world a safer place. It is SAFER isn't it??? Can't you feel the safety? I can...it's on the left side where my thumb rests.
Kentucky...CCDW card, fill out the yellow sheet and walk. Open carry is an option here too. There's an "oldtimer", older than my 62 years it appears, who carries his 10" .22 Ruger with all the finish worn down to the aluminum frame in his hip holster, daily at the little neighborhood market/deli/liar's club about a mile from the house. God bless him and more power to him.

44 Man · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2010, 10:41:01 AM »

I need to find out how it is here in Texas, now that I am going to claim it as home. In Michigan, I showed my CCW, filled out the fed form and not the Nics check and walked out, handgun or rifle. If you didn't have a CCW, you had and extra form you needed for a handgun and when you applied for it, the Sherriffs dept ran you for 'want's and warrents.' It's is even easier here in Texas. There are no 'special' waits or restrictions even on handguns (beyond the NICS). God bless Texas! 44 Man

miyata · « **Reply #29 on:** February 06, 2010, 10:42:33 AM »

Here in Tasmania (a little island state off the south coast of Australia), we have to wait 28 days to get a permit to acquire a firearm, regardless of the number of firearms already owned. During that period you get a visit from a nice police officer who checks that you have a gun safe. If you don't collect the firearm within 90 days you have to start the whole process again, and pay a new fee too.