KABAR2, the one on the TV tray, about 2/3 the size of our "big guy"....this cat is so heavy, he runs across the yard and bowls over our 35 pound Beagle, hits her on the shoulder and knocks her right over! I agree, us cannon guys (and girls) are a different breed, both our cats and both our dogs all play together, so No Problem! Now, If I mention cannons, I'll be able to stay on topic for the Forum! (Cannons!) BoomLover